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  Betakodo

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OP  3/15/12 5:08:29 PM#1

It better be crap. It's the summon mistfire wolf skill listed on the pre-purchase page. I remember back in the day, getting pissed when collectors editions started having the audacity to give actual in game bonuses. Feels kind of like a slap in the face, as someone who bought all the original guild wars. They didn't pull this kind of stuff back then, it was just some lame looking fire around your hands as a bonus for buying the CE.

  kostoslav

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3/15/12 5:10:52 PM#2
And fire imp that made leveling much easier... (gw1)
  ChuvarHrama

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3/15/12 5:12:00 PM#3
Originally posted by Betakodo

It better be crap. It's the summon mistfire wolf skill listed on the pre-purchase page. I remember back in the day, getting pissed when collectors editions started having the audacity to give actual in game bonuses. Feels kind of like a slap in the face, as someone who bought all the original guild wars. They didn't pull this kind of stuff back then, it was just some lame looking fire around your hands as a bonus for buying the CE.

GW1 had fire imp that levels with u all the way up to lvl 20, so i dont see any problem with that mistfire wolf.

  Damzilla

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3/15/12 5:13:34 PM#4

I doubt that similar skills won't be acquirable in one way or another in-game. It will probably just have an unique effect, but thtere will be more of these skills as you progress. The thing is you have to wait until a certain level ( I think 30) , and you get this one from the start. Not a big deal for me, but i can see why some people aren't too thrilled about it.

  Damzilla

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3/15/12 5:14:30 PM#5
Originally posted by kostoslav
And fire imp that made leveling much easier... (gw1)

That too, completely forgot about that guy :D

  jml816

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3/15/12 5:16:11 PM#6
Originally posted by Betakodo

It better be crap. It's the summon mistfire wolf skill listed on the pre-purchase page. I remember back in the day, getting pissed when collectors editions started having the audacity to give actual in game bonuses. Feels kind of like a slap in the face, as someone who bought all the original guild wars. They didn't pull this kind of stuff back then, it was just some lame looking fire around your hands as a bonus for buying the CE.

Like everybody has said, they did have it back then with the Fire Imp.  Anyways does it really bother you that much?  I am 100% sure it will be the most useless elite skill in regards to the other ones that everybody can get.. 

  ariboersma

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3/15/12 5:25:11 PM#7
Originally posted by jml816
Originally posted by Betakodo

It better be crap. It's the summon mistfire wolf skill listed on the pre-purchase page. I remember back in the day, getting pissed when collectors editions started having the audacity to give actual in game bonuses. Feels kind of like a slap in the face, as someone who bought all the original guild wars. They didn't pull this kind of stuff back then, it was just some lame looking fire around your hands as a bonus for buying the CE.

Like everybody has said, they did have it back then with the Fire Imp.  Anyways does it really bother you that much?  I am 100% sure it will be the most useless elite skill in regards to the other ones that everybody can get.. 

exactly, its pretty much just a starter elite and will be a cosmetic thing later. Certainly not something useful later on when you have unlocked your other elites.

  fiontar

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3/15/12 5:27:07 PM#8
Originally posted by Damzilla

I doubt that similar skills won't be acquirable in one way or another in-game. It will probably just have an unique effect, but thtere will be more of these skills as you progress. The thing is you have to wait until a certain level ( I think 30) , and you get this one from the start. Not a big deal for me, but i can see why some people aren't too thrilled about it.

I don't think we even know yet if the bonus Elite skill automatically unlocks the Elite slot on your skill bar. You may not get to use this earlier than other Elite Skills. The big advantage is that Elite Skills cost a lot of Skill Points. If this elite is decent, you may be able to hold off on buying a normal Elite until later and have the ability to spend your skill points on rounding out your non-Elite skill selection. (I think even the cheapest Elite Skills cost about 15 Skill Points, some as much as 25).

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  Wickedjelly

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3/15/12 5:28:30 PM#9

I think it is rather lame myself but long as it isn't something that starts appearing on a regular basis down the road then whatever...

One skill isn't a dealbreaker or anything. I do find it ridiculous though.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  Ikeda

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3/15/12 6:17:07 PM#10

People need to shut up already, grow up, move on.

It's a game.  Get your panties out of the wad, rinse the sand out of the nether areas, MOVE ON.

I swear... people come on just to troll stupid stuff that they have ZERO knowledge on and just a BUNCH of assumptions.

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  Torvaldr

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3/15/12 6:23:48 PM#11
Originally posted by Wickedjelly

I think it is rather lame myself but long as it isn't something that starts appearing on a regular basis down the road then whatever...

One skill isn't a dealbreaker or anything. I do find it ridiculous though.

I think it's kind of lame as well.  I guess it depends on how it works out in practice, but selling power items makes me go hmmm.

It feels different for GW1.  That is a lobby game where the entire world, outside of outposts, is instanced and what you do out there doesn't affect anyone else.  GW2 is billing itself as an MMO and a very social game so what advantages you have do affect others.

I'll reserve judgement until I see how it works out in practice, but this is another reason why I will probably wait for a while before I consider buying the game.

Curse you AquaScum!

  gainesvilleg

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3/15/12 6:35:49 PM#12
Originally posted by Ikeda

People need to shut up already, grow up, move on.

It's a game.  Get your panties out of the wad, rinse the sand out of the nether areas, MOVE ON.

I swear... people come on just to troll stupid stuff that they have ZERO knowledge on and just a BUNCH of assumptions.

Well, to be fair a cash shop that provides in-game advantages is a deal breaker for many people, including many that really are excited about GW2.  The CE providing in-game advantages seems to imply the cash shop will be the same.  Why would you assume otherwise?

Full disclosure:  I will not be buying GW2, at least at launch, for a number of reasons one being the cash shop

Fuller disclsoure:  I also do not play any other MMO at this time and am not a "hater" and have no vested interest in any one MMO

GW2 "built from the ground up with microtransactions in mind"
1) Cash->Gems->Gold->Influence->WvWvWBoosts = PAY2WIN
2) Mystic Chests = Crass in-game cash shop advertisements

  korent1991

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3/15/12 6:39:58 PM#13
Originally posted by Ikeda

People need to shut up already, grow up, move on.

It's a game.  Get your panties out of the wad, rinse the sand out of the nether areas, MOVE ON.

I swear... people come on just to troll stupid stuff that they have ZERO knowledge on and just a BUNCH of assumptions.

There's nothing wrong with discussing what we know and share our opinions and concerns... There's nothing childish about it. Regarding trolls - it's the same with haters... Trolls gona troll, no matter what. 

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  RefMinor

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3/15/12 6:40:55 PM#14
Originally posted by Ikeda

People need to shut up already, grow up, move on.

It's a game.  Get your panties out of the wad, rinse the sand out of the nether areas, MOVE ON.

I swear... people come on just to troll stupid stuff that they have ZERO knowledge on and just a BUNCH of assumptions.

 

Sounds like p2w to me, I hope the cash shop will not offer items like this
  vecanski

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3/15/12 6:44:44 PM#15

It really doesen't sound like a big deal. Its a skill that will be replaced fairly quickly by some other more usefull elite skill. I dont think that anyone should be alarmed by this.

  RizelStar

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3/15/12 6:47:35 PM#16

Lmao watch it be locked till level 30. I could be wrong but I will be laughing either way.

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  fenistil

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3/15/12 6:52:33 PM#17
Originally posted by RefMinor
Originally posted by Ikeda

People need to shut up already, grow up, move on.

It's a game.  Get your panties out of the wad, rinse the sand out of the nether areas, MOVE ON.

I swear... people come on just to troll stupid stuff that they have ZERO knowledge on and just a BUNCH of assumptions.

 

Sounds like p2w to me, I hope the cash shop will not offer items like this

Yeah.

While this not made me cancel my decision to buy GW2 it did put alarm light on ,so I will be looking NcSoft / A.net decisions considering cash shop twice as close and judge twice as sharply as I planned to.

 

Not red card yet ,but definately a yellow one.

  OmgZombies

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3/15/12 6:56:03 PM#18

I'm not sure what the big deal is.  We can garuntee it won't be OP, and if it's competitive, we can counter it like it's for a different class or an option we're just not using.  

I on the other hand will have access to it either way, but frankly i find summoning shit completely boring and too randomf or my liking.

  Loke666

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3/15/12 6:56:53 PM#19
Originally posted by ChuvarHrama
Originally posted by Betakodo

It better be crap. It's the summon mistfire wolf skill listed on the pre-purchase page. I remember back in the day, getting pissed when collectors editions started having the audacity to give actual in game bonuses. Feels kind of like a slap in the face, as someone who bought all the original guild wars. They didn't pull this kind of stuff back then, it was just some lame looking fire around your hands as a bonus for buying the CE.

GW1 had fire imp that levels with u all the way up to lvl 20, so i dont see any problem with that mistfire wolf.

Yeah, but they didn't start with stuff like that until after Strain left. I can't say I like it but it could be worse, a lot worse.

  acidblood

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3/15/12 7:01:31 PM#20
Originally posted by Wickedjelly

I think it is rather lame myself but long as it isn't something that starts appearing on a regular basis down the road then whatever...

One skill isn't a dealbreaker or anything. I do find it ridiculous though.

The problem is though it sets a precedent, and with a cash shop it's not hard to imagine other skills being offered in the future. They may not be any more powerful or better than regular elite skills, but they certainly aren't cosmetic.

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