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  RefMinor

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3/14/12 2:22:31 PM#21
Originally posted by Chrisbox

You all make me laugh.  Heres your problem: You expected revolutionary pvp at launch, from a game thats story and pve focused.  You either wait until pvp improves in your eyes or find another game. Crying on these comments wont help.


 

People expected what was promised by the developers, seems to me that it is perfectly reasonable for a customer to be complaining about a shoddy product and broken promise. I think that people are finding another game.
  Ziegler

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3/14/12 3:32:52 PM#22

Originally posted by Jaro420

^ I see youve never played Swtor. Have you ever pvp'd? same faction pvp isnt somthing new. BioWare wasnt the first MMo Company to add same faction pvp to there game. To the people who claim that Swtor pvp fails....




Its not the game that fails at pvp its you the player. Go back to wow and learn to pvp casue we all know Wow has the best pvp on the market!! and every mmo should be more like wow!!! 





 


 never played WoW,


PVP in SWTOR is wrong.  Mirror classes....arent actually mirror classes.  Open world PVP is a joke, and they tried to fix it and made it even worse, then came out with a patch to put a double barrel shotgun under it's chin and pulled the trigger.


Of course, that would be because BW knows jack about PVP,  so much so that they brought what few scrubs werent fired from Mythic to make their pvp for them.  Suprise Suprise Suprise........It sucked.


  Nitth

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3/14/12 3:39:53 PM#23


Originally posted by bobdole1979

Originally posted by Twitchn LOL at more war zones. This is the most boriing pvp ever . I came to this game wanting a open world experience in pvp but as they only cater to the themepark kiddies I guess this will never happen. Need to be able to take guild bases from one anther , loot drops from players(i see this would never happen cause the non die hard pvpers would cry more). Lets face it if you want a good pvp game go to eve or somthing more sandboxy as they give a real feel to pvp.  
just to be clear you came to a game that was advertised as a STORY driven MMO.  Made by a  company that specializies in SINGLE PLAYER STORY DRIVEN RPGS and has never done a single Multiplayer game before and you expected unique open world PVP expeirence?   I'm at a loss for words

Might wana check your facts there.


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  McGamer

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3/14/12 4:21:04 PM#24

Originally posted by bobdole1979
















Originally posted by Czanrei








PVP in SWTOR is a joke to begin with. It makes no sense for a player to gain the title of War Hero by killing their own faction members. BW really took the lazy route to designing their pvp by simply boosting everyone's skills to the 50 level during pvp. The little amount of skill it takes to do well in SWTOR's pvp goes out the window without relying on your own gear and abilities by boosting. 












I consider it a gamebreaker if BW goes through with making all the pvp map mechanics to allow for same-faction pvp. It's ridiculous.

















lol it's clear someone playing a high level got killed by a level 10 and is pissed about it. 























 










 




 


So which part of your post is supposed to make you sound more believable? The abuse of the Return key or adding "it's clear" to your comment? 


Either way, you were wrong about your assumption. Nevermind that making assumptions about a total stranger is the biggest mistake anyone can make. 


  palulalula

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3/14/12 4:23:24 PM#25

Originally posted by Alders


Originally posted by Jaro420

^ I see youve never played Swtor. Have you ever pvp'd? same faction pvp isnt somthing new. BioWare wasnt the first MMo Company to add same faction pvp to there game. To the people who claim that Swtor pvp fails....




Its not the game that fails at pvp its you the player. Go back to wow and learn to pvp casue we all know Wow has the best pvp on the market!! and every mmo should be more like wow!!! 



 


If you don't see the irony in your second sentence, then i don't know what to say.


TOR PVP is bad.  I played it, i saw it all.  It's bad.



 


And you are some high ranked pvp player in which game? 


  Marcus-

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3/14/12 4:29:26 PM#26
Originally posted by Chrisbox

You all make me laugh.  Heres your problem: You expected revolutionary pvp at launch, from a game thats story and pve focused.  You either wait until pvp improves in your eyes or find another game. Crying on these comments wont help.

Revolutionary?

no, not so much..

 

I was however, expecting to be "blown away", when i got to Ilum. Just like they said i would.

 

I was also expecting a little more than 3 warzones, from "some of the most experienced PvP developers in the world", as their focal point for PvP.

 

/shrug

edit: apologies, i guess now it will be four warzone 

 

  palulalula

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3/14/12 4:39:32 PM#27

Best classic mmo pvp after wow for sure. Patch 1.2 will only improve sky high this super extraordinary game. Guys do not be angry on game if you got killed to much in bg, practice make you better player. I know what is the problem with HB pvp--some of the people who are not very good in pvp get destroyed from same server and from same faction players. You know how hard is that for some of this guys?! He cant say anymore on general chat how awesome he is and how easy he can solo 2-3 players becouse everyone knows him and  people would laugh about that. Be cool it is  just a game made for fun and not for rage


  Worstluck

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3/14/12 4:45:04 PM#28
Originally posted by palulalula

Best classic mmo pvp after wow for sure. Patch 1.2 will only improve sky high this super extraordinary game.

 

Lol...I am literally laughing out loud right now.  What a ridiculous statement, no offense meant.  Hey we are all welcome to our opinion on the game, but how do some of you guys say stuff like that with a straight face.  Yeah, the reason many people don't like the PvP in this game is because they aren't good at it.  That must be it.  

  Remains

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3/14/12 4:53:30 PM#29

So they move to "competative" pvp (aka battlegrounds only) after "deprecating" Ilum.

Good work on avoiding the sore spot of Ilum though, probably wouldnt have gotten anything useful out of them by going there anyway.

  CrunkJuice2

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3/14/12 5:35:05 PM#30

"Yeah, the reason many people don't like the PvP in this game is because they aren't good at it.  That must be it.  "








or its because the pvp in this game is just bad.i mean,me personally the other aspects of the game overshadow its bad pvp,but i have my doubts the pvp will improve much




or at least in good timing.and not far after all the serious pvpers would of already unsubbed and are playing games like guild wars 2 and tera that have good pvp in there game.but dont me wrong though,i dont really care and think the pvp is ok from what ive did but im just going by what ive seen by the people in charge of the pvp,it doesnt really look like theres much in terms of a future with this game and serious pvp




 




 




 











 




 

  Kost

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3/14/12 6:46:48 PM#31

When did Pokket become an ambassador for competitive PvP?


Don't get me wrong, I enjoy her articles and videos, when they are related to PvE content. But she isn't exactly someone I would look to for advice on competitive Player vs Player content or strategy.


Odd.


  Zekiah

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3/14/12 6:51:42 PM#32
Originally posted by Kost

When did Pokket become an ambassador for competitive PvP?


Don't get me wrong, I enjoy her articles and videos, when they are related to PvE content. But she isn't exactly someone I would look to for advice on competitive Player vs Player content or strategy.


Odd.

Marketing 101

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  Pilnkplonk

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3/14/12 7:00:50 PM#33

Oh jeezus...

Ok, we understand that EA has the most marketing bucks than anyone else,  but this is getting simply ridiculous.

At this point they should probably hide uder a rock somewhere and hope no one notices them. My god, "competetive PvP" in SWTOR?

I'm not a malicious man by nature but I sure hope EA finally dies off in a tar pit somewhere quiet and stops bothering us with its garbage. According to my highly precise economical calculations it should happen in the period of the next two years. I expect a gradual dying-off of the parasitical PR growth off the main body as its depleted of its monetary resources. After that there is a possibility of a ressurection of sorts but I wouldn't bet on it.

It's always a sad spectacle to see an empire die.

  chaintm

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3/14/12 7:04:13 PM#34

Funny, all I have to do is look at the history of each negative poster to get to the truth of the matter. Another funny thing is if pvp is sooo horrible, why is it over half of each server is doing it? Oh that's right out of bordom, as SWTOR is the only game in exsistance so we rather play down right unplayable pvp then play anything else.. hmm yea. great logic you guys!

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  Pilnkplonk

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3/14/12 7:12:04 PM#35
Originally posted by chaintm

Funny, all I have to do is look at the history of each negative poster to get to the truth of the matter. Another funny thing is if pvp is sooo horrible, why is it over half of each server is doing it? Oh that's right out of bordom, as SWTOR is the only game in exsistance so we rather play down right unplayable pvp then play anything else.. hmm yea. great logic you guys!

Jeez man, you're right.

So please explain to me why I'm playing TF2 while I'm waiting for GW2? And why are all of my friends trying to sell off copies with "Don't tell anyone, I'm trying to get my money back!"  Lol, funny isn't it? All our arguments fall when confronted with a simple fact - "No, I'm not paying the money for this product." "Here's my 15 bucks a month, and no, you're not getting any. Haha."

I suppose it's the customers who can't comprehend the "grand vision" of the creators who are at fault then?

Megod, SWTOR is probably the PRIME example of the failure of the big corporate entertainment industry right now.  They'll cite it as the game industry's equivalent of "Heaven's gate" in a couple of years, lol.

Lol, sites showing real SWTOR's subs shut down all of a sudden with no explanation, lol. Someone trying to douse the fire with gasoline much? Anyone who has at least a half an ear to the digital ground knows what's the score. Hasta la vista baby and i hope you enjoyed your "story" lol and meanwhile the "niche" Minecraft sells 20 million copies while being made by a one guy. Lol, lol and double lol!

  chaintm

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"Shutting down threads sense 2004"

3/14/12 8:11:56 PM#36

I don't have to explain anything, you just said it, you don't play it , so how do you know beyond what you played prior to quiting? It's like that post you read when someone says "well wait till level 20, thats when the game gets really good!" . Yea, ok, it's simple, you like it or you don't, but in no way does that equal a majority opinion or some radical concept that every company in the world that makes over a few million equals the next Umbrella Corporation consipiring to not tell you the TRUTH!. Oh no's! Your life is over, the game sucks!... eh how about saying, yea it blows, next! and leave it at that? Nah, that wouldn't be fun, heck your other gaming is so good atm that you rather post here then be in those games right? Just like me posting and not playing SWTOR atm, must mean I hate it!

Dish it out anyway you like, but the pvp in this game is opinion just like any game with pvp. My personal opinion is dark age of camelot had the best MMO pvp to date. Nothing in my eyes comes even close, but you will have others that swear it was game B,C, or D. Hell , wait till guild wars 2 comes out, come back here in a month or heck even a week after release and see the hate flow.  For me SWTOR might not have the best pvp out there, but it's playable and fun. The racks on it making everyone 50 is laughable , for if you actually played the pvp you would know why.

Point to it all is, the history of each of the negative posters here follows a trend and hey more power to yea, the great thing about MMORPG.COM is you can say what you will and others can as well (within reason) and have arguments, discussions and more without any issue of being silenced. In the end thou, I will defend any game that I even may not even like so much if people are just out right spamming miss given information. Share your opinion , throw out you hate abc have at it,  but don't think you won't be called out on B.S. It will happen everytime and here more often then not.

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  Whiskey_Sam

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3/14/12 9:04:00 PM#37

The whole immersion thing is laughable.  So slave girls in PvP is going to break immersion, but a guy wearing little more than a duster and a cowboy hat is going toe to toe with a heavily armored guy with rockets and flamethrowers isn't?


And that ignores the fundamental flaws in a game with PvP servers where open world PvP is discouraged by a design that funnels factions away from each other for most of the game.  What's bad about PvP in SWTOR isn't being fixed by a miracle patch because the falws are built in to the very fabric of the game.


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  Phry

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3/14/12 9:16:20 PM#38
Originally posted by Zekiah
Originally posted by Kost

When did Pokket become an ambassador for competitive PvP?


Don't get me wrong, I enjoy her articles and videos, when they are related to PvE content. But she isn't exactly someone I would look to for advice on competitive Player vs Player content or strategy.


Odd.

Marketing 101

Token female gamer was my take on it, would have helped if she'd actually been a gamer though,  i get the feeling she's very new to both the reporting and the gaming.

  Stevenra

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3/15/12 12:46:57 AM#39

And what questions would you have asked oh great and mighty male gamer? In all your mighty wisdom as being a male,and i bet a new one at that, gamer what questions would have made you happy?   Stop judging a book by its cover and judge the content.  Not one of you has made an actual point aside from" Its a female gamer and shes a poopoo head and swtor sucks"?  Nice job people real mature very token childrens comments.  Try staying on point, if its possible, and offering up some actual critique. 


As for the interview I think that it needed to be slightly harder hitting, ask some difficult questions i'm sure they won't answer but at least you asked.  Keep up the good work and you'll get better every time.


  palulalula

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3/15/12 1:33:21 AM#40



Originally posted by Whiskey_Sam



The whole immersion thing is laughable.  So slave girls in PvP is going to break immersion, but a guy wearing little more than a duster and a cowboy hat is going toe to toe with a heavily armored guy with rockets and flamethrowers isn't?








And that ignores the fundamental flaws in a game with PvP servers where open world PvP is discouraged by a design that funnels factions away from each other for most of the game.  What's bad about PvP in SWTOR isn't being fixed by a miracle patch because the falws are built in to the very fabric of the game.











 




Aha that is your problem :) No more warrior class melle range 100% pawn. You should try game to 50 lev , from your post i see that you have very little expirience in tor 50 lev bg--for example marauder will for sure pawn any ranged class if he get close to him, but guys you must learn to play with melle because this game is balanced and you cant just one hit button kill. Any good Marauder from my guild would laugh on post like that-sorry dude no offence please but do not write something what is not true. Same is for PT, cmon!!!





 

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