Actually Iam a big or maybe was a fan of Bioware games, this was the reason I did try out Swtor.

At the end Swtor was just a mediocre mmorpg and overhyped.

But it comes even worse, Mass Effect 3 is another fail and this leads really to rethink about Bioware/EA and future releases. Btw Mass Effect 3 got 3.2/10 on Metacritic.com with 1600 reviews, often from players who were big fans of ME1 and ME2.  Without talking much about  the redicioulos DLC method.

First releasing Dragon Age 2  which was a let down, swtor and now ME3....their quality goes down the drain.

After they failed me with SWTOR and now they're doing day 1 DLC on ME3... 

I won't support them until €A/Bioware changes people on head positions and starts thinking about the quality again.

I have been fan of Bioware since their first games and really loved DA:O and I was extremely disappointed with DA2, ME3 was great except for the ending but I can give their artistic freedom. =)

SWTOR as a single-player experience was the best mmo leveling experience, but the pvp which I was waiting for was just a big flop and that the story just ends with no interaction from your companions at all after you hit 50.

So yes I am disappointed with Bioware.

This is Bioware's first attempt at an MMO game, on the pve aspect they've done a good job, on the pvp side... not so great, bad idea to hire a dev team that nearly destroyed Warhammer online's pvp. If they plan on making a Mass Effect MMO game, they should take notes with what's happening with SWTOR and learn from them, I know SOE doesn't do this because they refuse to learn anything and repeat their stupidity over and over (or probably thinks people are dumb).

I like Star Wars, I like sci-fi games, and the fact that there's so few sci-fi MMO's... the choice is silm and I want to like this game but after getting 2 level 50's, my patience is running thin. Well, Planetside 2 is on the horizon although I'm on the fence about it due to it being developed and hosted by SOE which are responsible for compromising my account (and CC) last spring.

id like to point out they are fixing pvp, Open world pvp is still broken on illum but they are working on that and in 1.2 update making it so warzones will be the go to pvp

say what u will about ea and bioware and most of u do but u cant fault there handling of bugs, They work hard to squash them as fast as they can and they make changes to adress player concerns like end game crafting

for all tors pvp faults warzones are actually fun, i dont have any hitch issues in them , and while pvp isnt perfect, its fun at least in warzones and after 1.2 alot of the concerns with how long it takes to get to battle master or wahtever top rank is are being adressed

Bioware for all the hate on this thread made a very fun engaging game for me at least and for at least a million others, who still play. 

After Dragon Age II I knew they had changed for the worse. It is a tragedy really.

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by ArgoZex77

Bioware RAPED the Star Wars franchise into oblivion. Their game is a complete failure.

I would not go that far but for an MMOG it is certainly a dissapointment. As a single player RPG I would say it is alright, even good, but problem is that it is not a single player RPG.

What made it really bad for me is the condascending remarks they made about SWG and how they dont want to have players playing a moisture farmer, like that is all SWG was about. Say what you want about SWG but as an MMOG it was vastly, vastly superior to SW:TOR.

Space combat, how they handled Jedi's (not everyone could be a Jedi from the get go) was simply so much better than this space on rails tripe and everyone, and their uncle and their dog, can be a Jedi. More over the lifeless world of SW:TOR cant hold a candle to SWGs rich and open ended world. Contrary to what mmorpg.com thinks, voice acting alone does not make a rich and vibrant world.

I could give a rat's ass about Bioware. What i'm more concerned with is the SW IP that i love. I can understand the difference between TOR's and SWG timeline. SWG had really no jedi and the old republic had many, cool, not a problem. Where i think Bioware screwed up is trying to shoebox the very huge and deep SW galaxy, instead of opening it up and letting it breath like SWG did.

If Bioware would have followed the SWG pre-cu model instead of the WOW one and added in their story/ VO and cutscenes for your character's personal story only, i really believe they would have had a solid mmorpg.

The biggest gripe i see is that, people are tired of the same old stuff they have been doing since WOW came out. The gear grind and dungeon crawling thing has gotten old and honestly, no one can do it better than WOW, so why copy it. Add in all the other standard systems that they left out and are going back and putting in because of the bitching that's going on and you can see that Bioware took the wrong approach from the get go.

Really after KOTOR 2 they went down a path and through merging with EA it just became a rehash with no creativitiy.  A manufacturing line of a successful formula with no passion.

I've watched this company go on a slow decline since Dragon Age II.  I felt that people were giving Bioware way too much credit and when you do that to a software giant, their devs stop worrying about making the game right and just throw out whatever will make them a quick buck.  The biggest red flag for me wasn't Mass Effect 2 and it's lackluster game play; it was during the TOR beta.  I was in it for about 6 months before launch and just reading the developer's comments on the forums I had some great concern.  Several times I caught them making statements about changes to the game, then later they would remove the comment and act like it never happened.  When a company starts lying, it NEVER turns out good.  I knew long before launch this game was going to have a rough start and despite all the faith you may have in a product, a bad start to an MMO is amplified each month they refuse to unscrew it.  Look at STO for example, the game was out for a year before the developers decided to listen to the subscribers and make drastic changes to the crappy mechanics; but, by then the game was already doomed to go F2P.  Is TOR an interesting game?  Yes, because it's a new take on MMORPGs. Could it have been implemented much better if the devs had their heads out of the clouds?  Definitely!

Originally posted by ProfRed

Really after KOTOR 2 they went down a path and through merging with EA it just became a rehash with no creativitiy.  A manufacturing line of a successful formula with no passion.

You realize they didn't make KotOR 2, right?

Not trying to be rude, just pointing out that Obsidian made 2.

Originally posted by kalinis

id like to point out they are fixing pvp, Open world pvp is still broken on illum but they are working on that and in 1.2 update making it so warzones will be the go to pvp

say what u will about ea and bioware and most of u do but u cant fault there handling of bugs, They work hard to squash them as fast as they can and they make changes to adress player concerns like end game crafting

for all tors pvp faults warzones are actually fun, i dont have any hitch issues in them , and while pvp isnt perfect, its fun at least in warzones and after 1.2 alot of the concerns with how long it takes to get to battle master or wahtever top rank is are being adressed

Bioware for all the hate on this thread made a very fun engaging game for me at least and for at least a million others, who still play. 

I agree with most of this wth the exception of warzones. I would play and enjoy the warzone experience a lot more if I had the option of choosing which one I could battle in. I hate the fact that it is random and the one that I get stuck in most often(huttball) is the one I despise the most. I'd rather wait in an hour que than play one more minute of huttball.

All in all though, I'm more than happy with what Bioware has delivered. I'm going on a three month straight sub which is more than any other game has gotten from me since PRE-NGE SWG.

I always loved bioware games and still do. ME3 is awesome. However, I think they need to stick to single player games rather than MMO's 

Props for admitting mistakes and tryign to fix things.

However, that doesn't mean they will fix things, nor does it mean how well nor how much effort they will put forth in correcting things.

The troubling thing for me, is why have they decided to admit the mistakes, rather than back before release when they are claiming Illuim would 'blow you away'?   It is not as if it was a really great system just before release (when they made the comment), and then suddenly turned into the broken systems they now admitt needs an overhaul. 

So why believe they are not being just as 'honest and candid' as they were when they claimed Illium would blow us away?

It is questions like that, which has shifted my opinion in BW -- as well as the quality seen in DA2 and TOR.

There isn't a Bioware anymore... It's just EA now.

It's no coincidence that Mass Effect 1 and Dragon age Origins were massive successes compared to their counterparts

Mass Effect 3 and Dragon age 2......the difference?  During Mass Effect 1 and Dragon age Origins Bioware was not 

being puppet stringed by Electronic Arts like the way they were during Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age 2....the outcome?

Massive Disappointment.

Originally posted by Coated

There isn't a Bioware anymore... It's just EA now.

This ^ 

The borg WILL assimilate you.  Assimilation is inevitable.

You have Bioware before EA and now there is Bioware after EA. Nuff said!

Originally posted by Nimar

You have Bioware before EA  and now there is Bioware after EA. Nuff said!

 

Definitely made me LoL irl. Love it.

Thanks. But, I would rather have it that there is no need for this kind of comments about Bioware and SWTOR. Shame, it could have been great game if Bioware stayed true to its roots.

Where is the option for 'I always thought they sucked'...?

Look, the only reason I bought this game was because it was a Star Wars MMO. As far as Bioware's involvement was concerned, though, it actually made me more rather than less leery. I always found Bioware games to be jumbled, buggy, unfinished messes. And, what's worse, the development process was so ass-backward --  with the designers clearly ignoring just about every suggestion that the testing base made -- that it was easy to predict the half-baked product we were going to get at launch.

So yeah, crap company produces crap game. More at 11.