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Today sees the launch of the highly-anticipated Mass Effect 3, but before you rush out to buy a copy, take a moment to listen to the opinion of the common man.

Courtesy Metacritic user "EndOfLine:"

This is the end of the like for mass effect, and bioware in general a game that actively encourages homosexual behaviour and other mental illnesses and especially how the target audience for this game is children. I personally will not be happy until all Ea and bioware employees have been crucified their buildings razed to the ground and the earth salted, this type of 'game' should not be played by anyone at all.

Likewise appalled by the game is Metacritic user "ilovegaben:"

What the he were they thinking? putting gay scenes into video games? If i wanted political messages, id watch the news. I do NOT want games becoming yet another medium for propaganda. 0/10

And so on for another 258 user reviews.

The game, which launched approximately 9 hours ago, currently sports a 2.4 user rating on Metacritic. Of course, the average rating among professional gaming critics is a pretty solid 93, but who are you going to believe? Gaming journalists who were obviously bought off with cocaine, yachts and hookers, or the hardworking proletariat whose only desire is for a space opera uncorrupted by BioWare's obvious homosexual agenda?

Looks like mass effect 3 was pile of crap

There is a major flaw in the first "review" you posted. The game is not marketed towards kids. It has a rating of "M". That, in case you are not aware, is for 18+.

I've played about six hours so far and have only heard two unique references to homosexuality. The first was your "secretary" claiming EDI's voice was "sexy". The second is your shuttle pilot who is gay and had a husband. I am assuming he may be the one DudeShep can have a romanctic relationship with. As far as I can tell, there are no "gay scenes" as you claim unless you follow that path.

And this being propoganda? Come on. The whole damned game could be labled as such. Interracial and interspecies relationships and the idea of war, the ethics of developing a functional AI... all could be considered political.

I think you and these others are stretching it a bit. The story is wonderful and quite epic; however, if you're going to let some dude on dude action - a path which you do not even need to take - ruin the game for you then that's your issue.

All BioWare's games seem to push a political agenda as of late.  I love the mission in SW:TOR where you gain LS points for helping a group of Republic soldiers abandon their post.

I loved the game, overall.  Yes, there were holes in the story at points and yes the ending was complete and utter garbage but overall it was a solid 8-9/10.

Additionally, I don't believe you can use any user or critic ratings until the title has at least the life span of a month because it's the vocal minority that are always first to go gripe about a game.  Furthermore, if you are taking the word of these critics, and I use the term loosly, then you are pretty closed minded.  Play the demo, if you like how it feels - get it.
 
I also agree with:
 

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Originally posted by Dekron
There is a major flaw in the first "review" you posted. The game is not marketed towards kids. It has a rating of "M". That, in case you are not aware, is for 18+.

 

I've played about six hours so far and have only heard two unique references to homosexuality. The first was your "secretary" claiming EDI's voice was "sexy". The second is your shuttle pilot who is gay and had a husband. I am assuming he may be the one DudeShep can have a romanctic relationship with. As far as I can tell, there are no "gay scenes" as you claim unless you follow that path.

And this being propoganda? Come on. The whole damned game could be labled as such. Interracial and interspecies relationships and the idea of war, the ethics of developing a functional AI... all could be considered political.

I think you and these others are stretching it a bit. The story is wonderful and quite epic; however, if you're going to let some dude on dude action - a path which you do not even need to take - ruin the game for you then that's your issue.
 

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Originally posted by SuperXero89

All BioWare's games seem to push a political agenda as of late.  I love the mission in SW:TOR where you gain LS points for helping a group of Republic soldiers abandon their post.

I don't see them pushing political agenda's on anyone, just mirroring the social aspects of our society.  Most of what people think, incorrectly, are political agenda's are more moral decisions for the story or character advancement - in which ME3 has a good number of.

Originally posted by FateFatality

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http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/mass-effect-3/user-reviews

Today sees the launch of the highly-anticipated Mass Effect 3, but before you rush out to buy a copy, take a moment to listen to the opinion of the common man.

Courtesy Metacritic user "EndOfLine:"

This is the end of the like for mass effect, and bioware in general a game that actively encourages homosexual behaviour and other mental illnesses and especially how the target audience for this game is children. I personally will not be happy until all Ea and bioware employees have been crucified their buildings razed to the ground and the earth salted, this type of 'game' should not be played by anyone at all.

Likewise appalled by the game is Metacritic user "ilovegaben:"

What the he were they thinking? putting gay scenes into video games? If i wanted political messages, id watch the news. I do NOT want games becoming yet another medium for propaganda. 0/10

And so on for another 258 user reviews.

The game, which launched approximately 9 hours ago, currently sports a 2.4 user rating on Metacritic. Of course, the average rating among professional gaming critics is a pretty solid 93, but who are you going to believe? Gaming journalists who were obviously bought off with cocaine, yachts and hookers, or the hardworking proletariat whose only desire is for a space opera uncorrupted by BioWare's obvious homosexual agenda?

 

Looks like mass effect 3 was pile of crap

It is a really sad commentary that I can't determine whether or not that last paragraph is sarcasm/snark.  What is pushing it more towards the sarcasm is the "bought off with cocaine, yachts, and hookers" line.  It is also a very sad commentary on our society that someone would actually take the time to write out that first opinion you took from metacritic.  I'm sure he's scared that the big bad gay man will get him, but geez talk about mental illness.  Who is more mentally ill, the guy who wrote that or two dudes holding hands?

Dear FateFatality...

Your post is one steaming pile of... well, you know, BS, as yanks put it.

First of all, you've had gay-relationship possibilities in Mass Effect since the very First one. The game's setting is a Bit more advanced, and far more open minded than our little 2012.

But lets go into the actual game and review it briefly, shall we? I, myself would give ME 3 a fair 8/10. It is certainly pleasant for me to play, I enjoy the story so far, love the dialog (though the quality has fallen..) and enjoy the singleplayer, even though it feels too much console-yish quite often. I of course had a save from ME 1 & 2, which I imported in and continued from.

There you go, my two cents. Oh, and I actually demand hot lesbian scenes in ME 3! As Dekron said, ME 3 is rated Mature, and since I got to bang the blue cute alien in the first one, I demand my Shepard's affair continues in the third, and so it has! Name me one Bioware RPG which hasn't had homosexual "propaganda" in it, as you put it?

EDIT: It puzzles me how people have already finished the game... I mean, I've put a good 22+ hours into it, and it dosn't feel like I'm anywhere near the end over here.

EDIT 2: Mass Effect 3 actually has improvements from the older ones, such as the Equipment system (Weight and weapon modding improved), but a few things feel... well, dumbed down even simpler. It is still pleasant though.

Originally posted by SuperXero89

All BioWare's games seem to push a political agenda as of late.  I love the mission in SW:TOR where you gain LS points for helping a group of Republic soldiers abandon their post.

  Of late?  Bioware games have been inclusive long before you were even a member here.  Haven't played many of them, have you?

  As for me, I'll go 7.5.  I don't think it's nearly as good as the previous two, but it's still a solid game that I'm enjoying.

Originally posted by SuperXero89

All BioWare's games seem to push a political agenda as of late.  I love the mission in SW:TOR where you gain LS points for helping a group of Republic soldiers abandon their post.

Yeah, I agree.  I wish the ME weren't pushing such a pro-gun political agenda.  I wonder how much the NRA paid them?

Originally posted by niceguy3978

Originally posted by SuperXero89

All BioWare's games seem to push a political agenda as of late.  I love the mission in SW:TOR where you gain LS points for helping a group of Republic soldiers abandon their post.

Yeah, I agree.  I wish the ME weren't pushing such a pro-gun political agenda.  I wonder how much the NRA paid them?

Not enough!

Originally posted by Quesa

 

Originally posted by SuperXero89

All BioWare's games seem to push a political agenda as of late.  I love the mission in SW:TOR where you gain LS points for helping a group of Republic soldiers abandon their post.

I don't see them pushing political agenda's on anyone, just mirroring the social aspects of our society.  Most of what people think, incorrectly, are political agenda's are more moral decisions for the story or character advancement - in which ME3 has a good number of.

Morality is a tough term to nail down though.  "Who" gets to decide whether the action in my example gets the player lightside or darkside points?  In my first playthrough, I wished to raise a "good" character; however, in this particular instance, I was forced to go against my own judgement in order to keep my character alignment which meant I had to keep my character more in line with BioWare's own personal interpretation of "good" in order to keep my lightside points.  You might say this is an inherent problem with the character alignment systems in BioWare's games, but there are certainly some instances in SW:TOR and other BioWare games where I find the moral decisions a bit suspect.

When did being gay become a pollitical agenda ? Wtf ?

I assumed the OP was tongue in cheek, and just bringing to the attention of everyone that people are effing crazy. I'm still going with that assumption, but in the future you may want to be a little more clear less people misinterpret what you're trying to say.

Those posts just make me sad.

Originally posted by niceguy3978

Originally posted by SuperXero89

All BioWare's games seem to push a political agenda as of late.  I love the mission in SW:TOR where you gain LS points for helping a group of Republic soldiers abandon their post.

Yeah, I agree.  I wish the ME weren't pushing such a pro-gun political agenda.  I wonder how much the NRA paid them?

Excuse me? This post will act as a very minor spoiler, but you actually have a choise wether you speak Against or For the Military. You can drive civilians away from joining, or you can help gun-ho military-fanatics to join up. War. War never changes.

EDIT: But the whole idea of Mass Effect is that you are Shepard, a human special forces Spectre war hero who saves the world in the end, no matter what.

Originally posted by Eliandal

Originally posted by SuperXero89

All BioWare's games seem to push a political agenda as of late.  I love the mission in SW:TOR where you gain LS points for helping a group of Republic soldiers abandon their post.

 

  Of late?  Bioware games have been inclusive long before you were even a member here.  Haven't played many of them, have you?

 

  As for me, I'll go 7.5.  I don't think it's nearly as good as the previous two, but it's still a solid game that I'm enjoying.

Maybe I shouldn't have said "as of late."  BioWare, as a whole, has been known as quite a socially liberal organization for a long time now.

Originally posted by Metanol

Originally posted by niceguy3978

Originally posted by SuperXero89

All BioWare's games seem to push a political agenda as of late.  I love the mission in SW:TOR where you gain LS points for helping a group of Republic soldiers abandon their post.

Yeah, I agree.  I wish the ME weren't pushing such a pro-gun political agenda.  I wonder how much the NRA paid them?

Excuse me? This post will act as a very minor spoiler, but you actually have a choise wether you speak Against or For the Military. You can drive civilians away from joining, or you can help gun-ho military-fanatics to join up. War. War never changes.

Yes, but if you help the military are you using a gun?  If so, the NRA wins the propoganda war!

Originally posted by SuperXero89

Originally posted by Quesa

 

Originally posted by SuperXero89

All BioWare's games seem to push a political agenda as of late.  I love the mission in SW:TOR where you gain LS points for helping a group of Republic soldiers abandon their post.

I don't see them pushing political agenda's on anyone, just mirroring the social aspects of our society.  Most of what people think, incorrectly, are political agenda's are more moral decisions for the story or character advancement - in which ME3 has a good number of.

Morality is a tough term to nail down though.  "Who" gets to decide whether the action in my example gets the player lightside or darkside points?  In my first playthrough, I wished to raise a "good" character; however, in this particular instance, I was forced to go against my own judgement in order to keep my character alignment which meant I had to keep my character more in line with BioWare's own personal interpretation of "good" in order to keep my lightside points.  You might say this is an inherent problem with the character alignment systems in BioWare's games, but there are certainly some instances in SW:TOR and other BioWare games where I find the moral decisions a bit suspect.

Morality isn't a hard term to nail down..because it's personal. Therefore its up to your perception to decide if "light" is "good" or if "dark" is bad. You can't expect Bioware to tackle the philosophy of ethics and come out perfect..its impossible.

Morality is reletive to the person perceiving it. The whole point of the system in making choices is to make them based off of *your* morality, not biowares. If that ends with you being less then 100% lightside points..that's just more in line with reality I think. 

You also weren't *forced* to make any light or darkside choices..they are choices, as in, you can decided which way to go, and dark and light have so little effect anyway it doesn't matter (especially since removing some of the weapon crystal requirements)

Seriously? I mean seriously? It's 2012 right? Haven't we as a society grown past this kinda thing yet?

Originally posted by SuperXero89

Originally posted by Quesa

 

Originally posted by SuperXero89

All BioWare's games seem to push a political agenda as of late.  I love the mission in SW:TOR where you gain LS points for helping a group of Republic soldiers abandon their post.

I don't see them pushing political agenda's on anyone, just mirroring the social aspects of our society.  Most of what people think, incorrectly, are political agenda's are more moral decisions for the story or character advancement - in which ME3 has a good number of.

Morality is a tough term to nail down though.  "Who" gets to decide whether the action in my example gets the player lightside or darkside points?  In my first playthrough, I wished to raise a "good" character; however, in this particular instance, I was forced to go against my own judgement in order to keep my character alignment which meant I had to keep my character more in line with BioWare's own personal interpretation of "good" in order to keep my lightside points.  You might say this is an inherent problem with the character alignment systems in BioWare's games, but there are certainly some instances in SW:TOR and other BioWare games where I find the moral decisions a bit suspect.

That's just it.  You made a decision based upon your own judgement and morality.  I do agree that some of the decisions that I made during my brief stint playing SWTOR didn't have the desired effect but I believe that's more of a problem of how that question or instance was delivered and how the context was decifered than anything else.

Bioware ultimately decides what a light and dark decision is and part of the immersion part of the game is deciding whether you are going to bow to your personal morals and judgement or base your decisions upon what you think your avatar would do.

Originally posted by niceguy3978

Yes, but if you help the military are you using a gun?  If so, the NRA wins the propoganda war!

If we follow this logic, every Bioware RPG is pro-war/killing. Because I remember killing people from Baldur's Gate series with swords and axes to Mass Effect.

And why would you play a Scifi RPG/Shooter if you didn't want to shoot someone in it? In ME you are stuck to one role, it even reads in the back of the game, so when you're buying it, you know that you'll be shooting eventually, and you will be stuck with "military".

Originally posted by FateFatality

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Today sees the launch of the highly-anticipated Mass Effect 3, but before you rush out to buy a copy, take a moment to listen to the opinion of the common man.

Courtesy Metacritic user "EndOfLine:"

This is the end of the like for mass effect, and bioware in general a game that actively encourages homosexual behaviour and other mental illnesses and especially how the target audience for this game is children. I personally will not be happy until all Ea and bioware employees have been crucified their buildings razed to the ground and the earth salted, this type of 'game' should not be played by anyone at all.

 

Sorry, but the fact that someone would even write that the they won't be happy until "all EA and bioware employees have been crucified..." goes beyond decency.  It seems to me that someone who writes a statement like that is much more likely to have a mental illness than two guys or gals  having sex.