I dont want to argue over this - or negate your high expectations of the game - but few points to discuss:

a) GW has always been a "second game" for most players.

b) Why is that? Cause it has no subscription, its easy, and almost f2p.

c) Dynamic events arent that special. Warhammer had those, Rift has those (Instant adventures was implemented alongside with Rifts). You can play those for an hour or two at most, but after that it gets boring grind.

d) Lets face it. NcSoft/AreneNet sucks hard time in making endgame content. NcSoft hasnt really succeeded in making anything properly on mass-scale. Lets see Lineage2/Aion Mass pvp that lags so much that you have hard time telling what is happening. GW is the only succesfull NcSoft end game product, but, if I may ask, if the games name already is Guild Wars, then for how long can you be bothered to play a different forms of pvp-only only as end game? Warhammer failed hard time with this concept as did Darkfall. If you say, go do dynamic events, then read my point (c).

Someone is jelous their p2p game looks far worse than gW2. Deal with it. =]

Originally posted by Mustarastas

I dont want to argue over this - or negate your high expectations of the game - but few points to discuss:

 

a) GW has always been a "second game" for most players.

b) Why is that? Cause it has no subscription, its easy, and almost f2p.

c) Dynamic events arent that special. Warhammer had those, Rift has those (Instant adventures was implemented alongside with Rifts). You can play those for an hour or two at most, but after that it gets boring grind.

d) Lets face it. NcSoft/AreneNet sucks hard time in making endgame content. NcSoft hasnt really succeeded in making anything properly on mass-scale. Lets see Lineage2/Aion Mass pvp that lags so much that you have hard time telling what is happening. GW is the only succesfull NcSoft end game product, but, if I may ask, if the games name already is Guild Wars, then for how long can you be bothered to play a different forms of pvp-only only as end game? Warhammer failed hard time with this concept as did Darkfall. If you say, go do dynamic events, then read my point (c).

Ok boss whatever you say :)

If you mean by looks the graphics, then I admit that NcSoft has always done "good looking" games. But, the mechanics behind servers and gameplay isnt working as intended in NcSoft games.

I always thought Guild Wars was a second game because it is not a real mmorpg. And no subscription off course.

Originally posted by Mustarastas

I dont want to argue over this - or negate your high expectations of the game - but few points to discuss:

 

a) GW has always been a "second game" for most players.

b) Why is that? Cause it has no subscription, its easy, and almost f2p.

c) Dynamic events arent that special. Warhammer had those, Rift has those (Instant adventures was implemented alongside with Rifts). You can play those for an hour or two at most, but after that it gets boring grind.

d) Lets face it. NcSoft/AreneNet sucks hard time in making endgame content. NcSoft hasnt really succeeded in making anything properly on mass-scale. Lets see Lineage2/Aion Mass pvp that lags so much that you have hard time telling what is happening. GW is the only succesfull NcSoft end game product, but, if I may ask, if the games name already is Guild Wars, then for how long can you be bothered to play a different forms of pvp-only only as end game? Warhammer failed hard time with this concept as did Darkfall. If you say, go do dynamic events, then read my point (c).

a) Thats because GW was never an MMorpg, it was a corpg.

b) GW has one of the most difficult hard modes in any game, clearly you havent played them.

c)The difference with Rift and warhammer is that in both cases "dynamic events" were secondary things you did between quest hubs, in GW2 the entire game is based in the Dynamic events system, even PVP.

d)What you consider to be good endgame is entirely subjective. There are thousands of people that have played hundreds and even thousands of hours of PvP because of the fact its fun for them, the same way people have played counterstrike for years.

Im gonig to get GW2 thats a no brainer but i Dont think its going to be as good as its being hyped up to be. Hell if im wrong awesome but I think we all know by now what happens when games get hyped up as much as GW2 is..

I do think many people will use GW2 as an alt game.

Many of the players in the first GW were players of Wow and other games that played it for the PvP. Other just had it when they felt burnt out of their regular game.

But there were plenty of people playing it as main game as well. GW is still one of the largests MMOs in number of active players and it is still number 3 on the top voted games here.

It would not surprise me the least if half of the GW2 players would play the game as their second MMO, but I don´t see why that would be a problem? There is no rule that say that you only can enjoy one MMO at the same time.

Sounds like i need to restring my old violin, the texture of the tone produced by new strings is to die for!

I've never played GW2 but I have a bunch of opinions on the videos and articles I've watched and read. /tongue_in_cheek

no one cares, give it a rest

Originally posted by Mustarastas

I dont want to argue over this - or negate your high expectations of the game - but few points to discuss:

 

a) GW has always been a "second game" for most players.

b) Why is that? Cause it has no subscription, its easy, and almost f2p.

c) Dynamic events arent that special. Warhammer had those, Rift has those (Instant adventures was implemented alongside with Rifts). You can play those for an hour or two at most, but after that it gets boring grind.

d) Lets face it. NcSoft/AreneNet sucks hard time in making endgame content. NcSoft hasnt really succeeded in making anything properly on mass-scale. Lets see Lineage2/Aion Mass pvp that lags so much that you have hard time telling what is happening. GW is the only succesfull NcSoft end game product, but, if I may ask, if the games name already is Guild Wars, then for how long can you be bothered to play a different forms of pvp-only only as end game? Warhammer failed hard time with this concept as did Darkfall. If you say, go do dynamic events, then read my point (c).

a) if this game is half as good, i won't have time for a second game.

b) the lack of subscription is great. i can pay more off my credit card.

c) i know. but i liked rift's dynamic events. they're a great idea.

d) my wife and i pvp only as our endgame. we have never enjoyed raiding and dungeons. and gw2's pvp system looks mind-blowing for a pvp fan. so - 100% of the time? i'm even considering starting pvp at level 1 and levelling in pvp. one man's endgame content is another man's grind.

1/10 OP

Originally posted by Loke666

I do think many people will use GW2 as an alt game.

Many of the players in the first GW were players of Wow and other games that played it for the PvP. Other just had it when they felt burnt out of their regular game.

But there were plenty of people playing it as main game as well. GW is still one of the largests MMOs in number of active players and it is still number 3 on the top voted games here.

It would not surprise me the least if half of the GW2 players would play the game as their second MMO, but I don´t see why that would be a problem? There is no rule that say that you only can enjoy one MMO at the same time.

@OP No i won't admit it...

I don't know about you but I didn't play any other MMO while I was playing GW1. It completely fulfilled my needs at the time.

cant admit anything until ive tested. but to be totally honest gw1 wasnt the number one game for me when it came out i played it thro and then some but never number one choise. we will see how things turn out to be with second coming.

im looking forward to GW2 but I do think the OPs probably correct.

Originally posted by TwilightEdge

Someone is jelous their p2p game looks far worse than gW2. Deal with it. =]

Bingo.  Some folks seem to be getting a little uncomfortable at how little they are getting for their monthly sub when compared to how much we'll be getting without one.

Originally posted by RefMinor

Originally posted by Loke666

I do think many people will use GW2 as an alt game.

Many of the players in the first GW were players of Wow and other games that played it for the PvP. Other just had it when they felt burnt out of their regular game.

But there were plenty of people playing it as main game as well. GW is still one of the largests MMOs in number of active players and it is still number 3 on the top voted games here.

It would not surprise me the least if half of the GW2 players would play the game as their second MMO, but I don´t see why that would be a problem? There is no rule that say that you only can enjoy one MMO at the same time.

 

Don't be reasonable, there can only be one bestest MMO ever at a time, and all that came before or after are shit.

Not really, some people will always prefer something different no matter what you do. You can´t make a perfect game for everyone so I am happy enough if the game is fun for me.

I liked GW and played it as a main game a rather long time, other of my friends have always used it as an alt game. And those people paid the same sums as me.

I plan to play GW2, hopefully as main game, but I will also try out other games, like WoDO, Class 4 and Copernicus. I only want to have a good time when playing, why would I care if the guys I am grouping with play Wow as well?

People are just taking gaming to serious and forget that it is about having fun, not whos game that is best.