If by bad game, you mean bad MMO... Then yes, it's a bad game.

Yes.

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Originally posted by azrael466

This site only enjoys two things.

nostalgia

hype.

 

If its not a super-hyped game thats not out yet. Or a game thats so old no one plays it anymore and is full of nostalgia. You'll get nothing but hate here.

mmorpg,com forums in a nutshell. 

No the game is not bad.  No the game is not good.  At all, either way. 

There's some enjoyment to be had.   Especially if you enjoy PVE and hopefull you do while playing this.  I can only rate the game from what little Ive played as mediocre. 

Again, not bad, but its not exactly what Id label as "good" either. 

Not a bad game but not a good MMO.   The best part of the game is the solo(single player) story line, the MMO part of the game for me was terrible, even if this game was F2P I would not have played more than the 25 days I did.  Not going to rehash why as it has already been expressed in just about every thread in this forum.

I would try for a buddy key if you can get one and try it for yourself as your milage may vary that way you do not have to spend the money on the box up front and will be out nothing if you do not like the game. 

I have never played any of the old games. My first MMO was WoW. I also never played a real sandbox, except for my free month in EVE.

 I was invited to the beta of SWTOR and after about 2 weeks I cancelled my pre-order. Not because it was a really bad game, but it is in no way  a MMO. And I don't pay subs to play a SP game.

It pisses me off when peope say it is WoW with lightsabers, because WoW is lightyears ahead of this game as far as fun and MMO basics are concerned. WoW is just as on rails as SWTOR, but the WoW devs manage to make the world feel much more open.

So, is it a bad game? No - but it most certainly is a very, very bad MMO.

Originally posted by azrael466

This site only enjoys two things.

nostalgia

hype.

 

If its not a super-hyped game thats not out yet. Or a game thats so old no one plays it anymore and is full of nostalgia. You'll get nothing but hate here.

This is so true, and the reason is because this is one of if not the oldest site completely dedicated to MMORPG's, so back in the days when MMO's were underground this was pretty much the only site on the subject.

Over the years as MMO's became more mainstream and many other MMO sites started poping up this site remained the MMO site for the grandfathers of MMO gaming, (pre EQ1 players), so yes I agree most on this site are nostalgic and only Hype the Hyped or dead games of the past or future, never the present, only EVE gets that honor and only because it's a sandbox that has been around for 10 years and is going stong, other then that all games that are live will get torn apart on this site.

Wait till GW2, AA & TSW comes out, after a month this site will rip it apart and hype the next MMO in alfa/beta lol, this has been a ever going cycle here at MMORPG.com for years.

The funny thing is, all those old school MMO's that most get all nostalgic about, if they were to come out today with updated GFX people here will still bitch and find things to bitch about not matter what, and the real reason is no matter what games comes out it will never be good enough for them, they enjoy living in the part and enjoy dreaming of the perfect MMO rather then playing one.

"On the subject" @ OP: It's worth the money, good game and they seem to be keeping up with the patches, the down sides to this game is that Swtor lacks community tools but they seem to be adding those tool in patch 1.2.

If you enjoy Star Wars and a solid story it's well worth the $50 IMO, look at Swtor like you would any other Bioware game.

The game isn't bad and do what it is supposed to do.

Of course far from all players like what it does but that is not the same thing as the game is bad. I don´t think it is a game most players would like to play for years though.

Oh, the PvP is far from good though so if you are a PvP fan you can probably say the game is bad. 

It is really supposed to be KOTOR with a bit of MMO feeling to it and that it do well. If you like that or not is up to you.

Originally posted by Loke666

The game isn't bad and do what it is supposed to do.

Of course far from all players like what it does but that is not the same thing as the game is bad. I don´t think it is a game most players would like to play for years though.

Oh, the PvP is far from good though so if you are a PvP fan you can probably say the game is bad. 

It is really supposed to be KOTOR with a bit of MMO feeling to it and that it do well. If you like that or not is up to you.

The highligthed bit above has it right. If you are looking for a fully fleshed out MMO, then this is not the game for you.

If however you are satisifed with just "a bit of MMO feeling" and are willing to pay a sub for that, then by all means give it a try.

I had major fun for 2 or 3 weeks, then it felt just like wow witch i played for a good 6/7 years.

The concept is exacly the same.

Battlegrounds till your eyes bleed

Do your daily quest

Do your daily dungeon

Do your daily battleground

If you like wow and are not done with these kind of mmo's SWTOR might be your thing.

For me the fun ended after 3 weeks of playing and regreted i fell aonce again for a mmo that had great marketing but no real feeling of next gen mmo.

Currently playing Free to play Aion xD and World of Tanks to pass the time before GW2 gets unleashed :)

It's not bad, if you can get it for about 20€ and don't resub.

At least before the Second Coming of Messiah patch 1.2 that is postponed to be released at April and, depending on who you ask, overhauls pretty much everything the game has now and adds everything imaginable missing.

Originally posted by Pelaaja

It's not bad, if you can get it for about 20€ and don't resub.

At least before the Second Coming of Messiah patch 1.2 that is postponed to be released at April and, depending on who you ask, overhauls pretty much everything the game has now and adds everything imaginable missing.

They should of never launched the game without the things being added in patch 1.2, I think they thought that the story would of held people untill they got around to 1.2 but it kind of back fired on them, to launch a MMO in 2012 without a LFG system is death, thank goodness they are adding it next month.

Originally posted by Warjin

Originally posted by Pelaaja

It's not bad, if you can get it for about 20€ and don't resub.

At least before the Second Coming of Messiah patch 1.2 that is postponed to be released at April and, depending on who you ask, overhauls pretty much everything the game has now and adds everything imaginable missing.

They should of never launched the game without the things being added in patch 1.2, I think they thought that the story would of held people untill they got around to 1.2 but it kind of back fired on them, to launch a MMO in 2012 without a LFG system is death, thank goodness they are adding it next month.

unfortunately too late to many players. like you said 1.2 should have been included in retail version already might have been success more than it is now.

Originally posted by m0lly

Originally posted by Warjin

Originally posted by Pelaaja

It's not bad, if you can get it for about 20€ and don't resub.

At least before the Second Coming of Messiah patch 1.2 that is postponed to be released at April and, depending on who you ask, overhauls pretty much everything the game has now and adds everything imaginable missing.

They should of never launched the game without the things being added in patch 1.2, I think they thought that the story would of held people untill they got around to 1.2 but it kind of back fired on them, to launch a MMO in 2012 without a LFG system is death, thank goodness they are adding it next month.

unfortunately too late to many players. like you said 1.2 should have been included in retail version already might have been success more than it is now.

I am still waiting for them to put the HighRes textures back into the game, as they promissed after the massive outcry back in january!

Probably will never happen, as not a single thing has been said about it anymore... so I probably never resub again either.

Originally posted by Warjin

Originally posted by Pelaaja

It's not bad, if you can get it for about 20€ and don't resub.

At least before the Second Coming of Messiah patch 1.2 that is postponed to be released at April and, depending on who you ask, overhauls pretty much everything the game has now and adds everything imaginable missing.

They should of never launched the game without the things being added in patch 1.2, I think they thought that the story would of held people untill they got around to 1.2 but it kind of back fired on them, to launch a MMO in 2012 without a LFG system is death, thank goodness they are adding it next month.

And then there are those who think LFG is death for MMOS. Just shows the devs can never win. if they add more WOW feature than TOR sucks because it is a WOW clone and if they don't it is still bad because it didn't copy every single feature of WOW.

Originally posted by JeroKane

Originally posted by m0lly

Originally posted by Warjin

Originally posted by Pelaaja

It's not bad, if you can get it for about 20€ and don't resub.

At least before the Second Coming of Messiah patch 1.2 that is postponed to be released at April and, depending on who you ask, overhauls pretty much everything the game has now and adds everything imaginable missing.

They should of never launched the game without the things being added in patch 1.2, I think they thought that the story would of held people untill they got around to 1.2 but it kind of back fired on them, to launch a MMO in 2012 without a LFG system is death, thank goodness they are adding it next month.

unfortunately too late to many players. like you said 1.2 should have been included in retail version already might have been success more than it is now.

I am still waiting for them to put the HighRes textures back into the game, as they promissed after the massive outcry back in january!

Probably will never happen, as not a single thing has been said about it anymore... so I probably never resub again either.

They are starting with addition of high res texture for armors.

Originally posted by Superduper69

Originally posted by Warjin

Originally posted by Pelaaja

It's not bad, if you can get it for about 20€ and don't resub.

At least before the Second Coming of Messiah patch 1.2 that is postponed to be released at April and, depending on who you ask, overhauls pretty much everything the game has now and adds everything imaginable missing.

They should of never launched the game without the things being added in patch 1.2, I think they thought that the story would of held people untill they got around to 1.2 but it kind of back fired on them, to launch a MMO in 2012 without a LFG system is death, thank goodness they are adding it next month.

And then there are those who think LFG is death for MMOS. Just shows the devs can never win. if they add more WOW feature than TOR sucks because it is a WOW clone and if they don't it is still bad because it didn't copy every single feature of WOW.

A cross server LFG is bad for the community IMO, but from what they said they are adding a server only LFG so i'm happy with that, my main problem is finding flash point groups or (pugs) for when my time is limited in this game other then that the game is tight, I just feel that they need to have better tools in place to help bring the community together if that means mergeing servers, LFG  or both im all game for that.

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by Axxar

It's not bad. Pros are interactive dialogues and that you tend to group a lot more than you do in other theme park MMOs. Cons are that in terms of gameplay there really isn't much new to see here, plus there's a certain lack of immersion in the world(s). And I'm not sure how much grouping you can do while leveling anymore since the population has dropped significantly (by my guess, at least).

I enjoyed the game for most of the free month, but started getting a bit bored by the end. Decided I didn't want to renew my sub after that. It was really fun in the beginning because of the dialogues and the fact that it was so easy to find people to group with to do the veritable ton of leveling group content.

Group alot more? Please tell me how this game tend to make you group alot more. The main feature of this game are class story-lines which can all be done solo at your own pace.

Flash points and heroic quests are done in groups but they are completely optional. I have done only a handful and I can progress the game, and do most storylines, just fine without them

That's your own problem. The content is there, and if you don't wish to utilize it, then that's not a fault of the game. Flashpoints, Warzones, Heroic areas/quests, world bosses, etc., are all available in the game to be done with others quite consistently as you level. Try not skipping them in favor of grinding out solo quests next time.

Originally posted by Superduper69

Originally posted by JeroKane

Originally posted by m0lly

Originally posted by Warjin

Originally posted by Pelaaja

It's not bad, if you can get it for about 20€ and don't resub.

At least before the Second Coming of Messiah patch 1.2 that is postponed to be released at April and, depending on who you ask, overhauls pretty much everything the game has now and adds everything imaginable missing.

They should of never launched the game without the things being added in patch 1.2, I think they thought that the story would of held people untill they got around to 1.2 but it kind of back fired on them, to launch a MMO in 2012 without a LFG system is death, thank goodness they are adding it next month.

unfortunately too late to many players. like you said 1.2 should have been included in retail version already might have been success more than it is now.

I am still waiting for them to put the HighRes textures back into the game, as they promissed after the massive outcry back in january!

Probably will never happen, as not a single thing has been said about it anymore... so I probably never resub again either.

They are starting with addition of high res texture for armors.

Can you provide a link with proof of that?

Originally posted by JeroKane

Originally posted by Superduper69

Originally posted by JeroKane

Originally posted by m0lly

Originally posted by Warjin

Originally posted by Pelaaja

It's not bad, if you can get it for about 20€ and don't resub.

At least before the Second Coming of Messiah patch 1.2 that is postponed to be released at April and, depending on who you ask, overhauls pretty much everything the game has now and adds everything imaginable missing.

They should of never launched the game without the things being added in patch 1.2, I think they thought that the story would of held people untill they got around to 1.2 but it kind of back fired on them, to launch a MMO in 2012 without a LFG system is death, thank goodness they are adding it next month.

unfortunately too late to many players. like you said 1.2 should have been included in retail version already might have been success more than it is now.

I am still waiting for them to put the HighRes textures back into the game, as they promissed after the massive outcry back in january!

Probably will never happen, as not a single thing has been said about it anymore... so I probably never resub again either.

They are starting with addition of high res texture for armors.

Can you provide a link with proof of that?

maybe hires earrings =p