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Originally posted by Fed1 Lock up on porting in RIFT... never happened to me. Nor did I hear anyone in our guild ever come across a similar problem. I'll tell you what our guild did come across in SWTOR though... We couldn't get anywhere in a hurry. Some PvP starts on a planet somewhere, we get a group together and by the time everyone gets through the loading screens, it's all over. Loading into fleet, half of the guild were met with a blank screen. As graphics slowly started to load, they were still unable to move their character for minutes at a time. We planned a raid on Ilum with 30 to 40 members but after loading in and before setting off looking for action, we had to give up because 80% of the guild had like 3 FPS and struggled to get back off the planet. Yes it's that bad. |
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3/03/12 2:53:00 PM#42
Originally posted by jacklo No one in my guild of 20 or so has had any of the problems you mentioned - Go Figure
And it seems your entire guild made it to level 50 without any game breaking bugs Hmmm
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3/03/12 2:56:37 PM#43
Most to all fo the problems you guys have brought up i have not had. Ilum runs great on my computer. I am also not runing a WoW computer. I have a gaming computer. I get very very little lag. No lag in any PvP. I have all my setting on thier highest setting. |
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3/03/12 3:01:05 PM#44
I think you seriously can't compare the bugs of a game that's been in release for a year to one that is only a couple of months old.
As far as SWTOR bugs go, the vast majority have been resolved. There are still some big ones, but the issues you are complaining abouttheoughout this thread are mostly gone. The worst bugs in the game right now are probably related to Soa. Even he is starting to get a lot better to fight. I'm sorry, but the state of the game now is not the same as it was at launch. Remember what Tera us like now, and I'll let you know what SWTOR Is like when it's seen a year of release. Shadow's Hand Guild The Secret World - Dragons Planetside 2 - Terran Republic Tera - Dragonfall Server |
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Originally posted by bbethel I don't disagree that some people are able to play the game reasonably. By the same token, I don't think you should close your eyes to the many people who do have problems. These people are not a small minority as can be seen in the offical forums and far beyond. I dare say if there was a class action lawsuit, BW/EA would have real problems trying to justify their "minimum hardware specifications" when they are so far off the mark. It's not really that the minimum specs don't work for some people, but others with far better specs still have problems. Legally I should be entitled to a refund since my specs far outweigh those specified. |
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3/03/12 3:06:03 PM#46
Originally posted by bbethel ILLUM is so epic just watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fkMKYvZTOw I have never ever played any sort of mass scale pvp in any game without little hiccups or lag and that's even on games with a engine designed to support mass battles like lineage 2 so I call BS here unless your ILLUM fights are 5 vs 5.. unless you got some video to show i'd be happy to see it I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg |
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3/03/12 3:07:56 PM#47
"Get your head out of your ass. Gamer's expectations are way too high now adays. It's like a women that wants a man who is a good lover, good looking, smart, funny, has lots of money etc etc etc.....you can't have it all..." Besides just describing me (ask my wife hehe) my expectations were not too high for SWTOR and STILL the game sucked beyond belief. I not only want my money back - I want that month of my life back. Currently playing as Lord Helmet on Rift (Faeblight) |
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3/03/12 3:10:19 PM#48
Originally posted by jacklo All empty rhetoric. You are very clever using words like "some" and "many". The reality is that "most" were able to play this without serious problems. You might find the game boring or lacking in many aspects, but it was not unplayable or no where nearly as buggy as you make it sound. Also your assumption about class action lawsuit is nothing but air. You can run this game with fairly crappy laptops, and its no fault of Bioware if people do not understand that it probably won't run with highest settings on a machine like that. That said, I have had games in the past that simply would not work on my machine. Did not get refunds, nor did I try, but the problems usually were fixed pretty quickly.
"The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in." |
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Originally posted by thexrated You sound as if myself and everyone else are trying to run beyond our specs. Far from it lol. I run a game to what feels an acceptablly responsive FPS, disregarding any graphics fluff. I can't set SWTOR any lower than it is and I haven't even whined about the graphics other than to say most current games are technically superior in that department. It's not as high on my list as playability.
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3/03/12 3:28:50 PM#50
Originally posted by Four0Six
Lazy? In a GAME? Okaaaay. No, actually the quest is just really damn long and flocking boring as shit. I don't care for repeating it. THEY should get less lazy and fix their lousy game. With all the things that are wrong with it, I don't suppose two bugged quests are going to rank very high. Probably would be better for me just to move along and leave this game like most everyone else before I get to endgame and get REALLY pissed.
Do you work for Bioware? And yet you can't figure out why I wouldn't want to repeat a quest? Amazing. Maybe if the quests were BETTER.....hello. President of The Marvelously Meowhead Fan Club |
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3/03/12 5:56:09 PM#51
I really didn't encounter many bugs until the higher levels in SWTOR. Far as that goes I thought they did a pretty good job outside of Ilum that is. Pretty much an all around disaster far as that planet goes. The game is missing features galore and their population management is hideous but can't say bugs was really an issue with me when it came to SWTOR. 1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical. 2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself. 3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose. |
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3/03/12 6:10:48 PM#52
You weren't too hard on SWTOR, you're just being too easy on TERA. :) It's your run-of-the-mill "theme park" with an emphasis on a different combat system. In comparison, SWTOR is your run-of-the-mill "theme park" with an emphasis on story. I played SWTOR to level 50 and quit; the combat was boring but the story surprisingly kept me going. In TERA, I'm really pushing myself to play on in the 20s, because the narrative is not there and the combat has gotten repetitive. TERA does look pretty, but even that is mostly surface and not much detail. Actually I'd say SWTOR has more detail in some places. Consider the ground foliage; TERA has very little of it (hence the plastic ground effect) whereas SWTOR has plenty. But on the bugs front, I'd agree. TERA looks quite polish on that front, whereas SWTOR had some nasty bugs in its first month. |
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3/03/12 6:14:35 PM#53
Originally posted by solarine i agree people being too easy on TERA.. I'm very dissapointed in TOR and even though TERA has much better graphics(in my opinion) I still feel TOR is a better game. I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg |
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3/03/12 6:16:18 PM#54
Honestly outside of combat gameplay and graphics nothing stands out at all to me about TERA. Can't say that game overall interests me in the least. 1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical. 2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself. 3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose. |
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I should point out that this thread wasn't supposed to be a SWTOR vs TERA. TERA is very pretty, runs great on my computer and is seemingly bug free, much like my experience in RIFT. I don't actually see myself buying TERA, I was simply comparing the two with regards to polish because a lot of people seem to think you need a game to be out for 7 years before polish can be achieved. That is simply not the case.
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3/03/12 6:29:36 PM#56
Originally posted by jacklo Tera has been out in Korea for about a year IIRC. |
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3/03/12 6:31:10 PM#57
Originally posted by JoeyMMO I have you beat, i was there for the first movie, but you hit the nail on the head. Star Wars is just to big and indepth to have a mmo set up the way Bioware did it. It's needs an open galaxy so to speak. Smugglers should be able to smuggle and choose who to smuggle for just like bounty hunters should be able to hunt for whoever has the most credit. Lightsided jedi should be able to fall to the darkside and switch sides, just as sith should find the light and switch as well. Players should be able to create and have out of combat tools and systems to be able to sell, entertain and do many other things to actually make the planets come alive. TOR could have been so much more, but Bioware chose to dwell in mediocrity. |
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Originally posted by musicmann I was also there for the first movie :) In it's time, it was ground breaking, something a younger audience wouldn't appreciate in these days of CGI. This game doesn't feel like Star Wars at all in my opinion. This IP is worth so much more. |
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3/03/12 6:40:33 PM#59
Originally posted by jacklo and this is why so many people are getting so crazy over how this game turned out.. if it was just another no name IP like tabula rasa I'm sure it would of dissapeared into nothingness just as that game did. I have wanted to play a game like musicman described since online gaming first started and now we are in the age were it's very possible and the technology is there yet this is all bioware could come up with... I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg |
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3/03/12 6:45:09 PM#60
I love reading peoples responses to SWTOR being a great game because it launched with so much. Or the famous WoW didn't have bg's tactic. Lol it is 2012 dumbies, all mmo's have to meet a certain criteria. The year is no longer 2004, 2008 or w/e reference point you want to use in mmo launching. There are now certain things gamers should expect because the technology we have can support it. Spending 300 mil on an mmo and not having an endgame would be seriously bad. SWTOR did have endgame and bgs yes thats right. They were just riddle with bugs/exploits. That is why people complain and make fun of it as being a steaming pile of poo. |
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