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3/02/12 1:28:47 PM#41
Originally posted by Soopaman if you can portray why you love this game to me it shows you are simply not just trolling. There are so many people here and all over the internet who go to game forums to do nothing but stir the pot, to troll. If you put the time into a post and I can see your side of the story and your opinions than a can conclude you are genuine in your thoughts and are not just trolling. I just get annoyed when I see people pour out a 5 page review of a game and because its negative they are somehow trolling. I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg |
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3/02/12 1:29:20 PM#42
Originally posted by Soopaman Because that's the point of coming up with an argument? You have to justify how you feel, or it's almost pointless to say it. If no one justified how they feel, conversations would be nothing more than: "I like X!" "Well I don't like X!" "But I like X!" "Yeah well I don't like X!" Justifying how you feel can help other people understand your viewpoint, and sometimes even change their mind about something. The whole point of this forum is to discuss things. Without coming up with a justified argument...it's not really a discussion, it's just two people yelling at each other. Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob? |
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3/02/12 1:35:56 PM#43
Originally posted by dougmysticey The hate posts I LOVE the most are the ones that go something like this: I would say that those of us (yes, I am one of those people who is a "locust" - thought I don't like to fly off after feasting) who say we have put that much into the game and want to like it but can't mean to say we want to like the continuing experience of that game.
The continuing experience being that which is done after the initial toon is leveled. That for which we pay the $15ish per month. Those things may include: (Activity - My Opinions on doing them in SWTOR) Raiding - Had finished Nigthmare modes within the 1st month - Done PVP - Sluggish poorly implemented - Done Alts - One alt to 50, others to teens and twenties. Too repetitive - Done. Trolling - Gave this up with puberty - Done Mentoring - Gouging out eyes instead of revisiting worn out content - Done Ganking - See "Trolling" Protecting the ganked - See "Mentoring" Standing in Org - Orgrimar isn't even in the game yet! - Waiting Flashpoints - See "Mentoring" Forum Posting - HERE I AM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Don't need a sub to do it here :))))) Rotating the camera around the character - No high rez textures makes visuals bleh and meh and not scanworthy - Done Changing specs - Pigeonholed into advanced class - Done Min-maxing - No meters of any sort. Not interested in writing down every number that flashes on my screen - Done
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Someone please make a good MMO. |
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3/02/12 1:36:55 PM#44
Originally posted by Aerowyn I understand what you are saying and dont disagree. There is nothing wrong with positive or negative feed back. Trolling is a uncontrollable phenomenon do to free speech. I ignore or dont read those types of post. I do believe forum webiste should have some control over it. This website and many others do a poor job a moderating its forums. This is when the trolls get out of control and high jack constructive post. |
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3/02/12 1:48:45 PM#45
Originally posted by Creslin321 Personally its not my style to convince ppl or change their mind. I believe a person should formulate their own opinion based on personal knowledge or experience. |
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3/02/12 1:51:45 PM#46
Originally posted by Croatoan
Wait until you get off your starter planet... |
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3/02/12 2:01:34 PM#47
Originally posted by Soopaman That is an incrediby wasteful way of learning. Human beings are programmed through eveolution, Jesus, Buddha, Spaghetti.... (whatever got it to happen) to not have to touch every single stove or even touch a stove at all to know they can get burned. Not sharing experiences and opinions while pushing for a higher understanding would take forever and expend insane resources. Do I really have to wade through all of the content in a game/purchase every game that tickles my fancy to know if it is for me? If I can just ask those who are knowledgable/trustworthy, those who are potentially unkowledgable/untrustworthy, all of those in between and then hopefully interweve that with footage I have seen or experiences in the first month/in a trial...Well, if I can do that, I can save time and money. It would be ridiculous to follow some cut of personality or just ride the hate train on something. But to inform one's actions with debate is one of the things that keeps man on the top of our food chain. Someone please make a good MMO. |
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3/02/12 2:02:11 PM#48
Then why are you here on a forum Soopaman? Insofar as this "MMORPG.com is a breeding ground of negativity" chuckle. Okay. I see FAR more posts complaining about a supposed negativity than I do see negative posts. The truth is none of us would be here, spending our time on a MMORPG forum, if we did not believe in the potential of MMORPGs. Even further, we would not be here if we had not ALREADY HAD A POSITIVE MMO experience. I wouldn't say that no one can have fun with TOR and those of us who feel let down aren't somehow trying to troll. What we're doing, when we post on a forum, is trying to engage in a conversation to figure out why, exactly, we feel let down by TOR. Personally I enjoyed my time in TOR in beta but I knew, almost right away, that it was no virtual world and I couldn't imagine spending my free time in it. |
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3/02/12 2:03:41 PM#49
Originally posted by Krellen
I thought I wasn't seeing many players of the opposing faction too, that is UNTIL.....I started buffing everyone I saw. And to my surprise, I found I couldn't buff quite a few of these people, so I started LOOKING when I would mouse over them to see if they were Republic and guess what? They were. From then on I started noticing it more and more. It started in Nar Shaddaa at the cantina and since then I've realized just how many Republic people I'm seeing. Jedi Sentinels seem numerous in that area. Saw some Commandos too. I'm a Sorcerer, btw, on that character. President of The Marvelously Meowhead Fan Club |
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3/02/12 2:22:37 PM#50
Originally posted by baritone3k Dont get me wrong I love debating topics with ppl all the time. But when it is comes to opinion or personal preference . I draw the line. I'm in no place to tell anyone how they should and shouldn't feel. A feeling and opinion is not debatable because they are personal. |
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3/02/12 2:27:36 PM#51
Originally posted by Wickedjelly You missed the point and if your thinking I was defensive in my post, I would be curious to see your definition of someone's irritation or even anger... it would be amusing. My point was this site is famous for the "Haters". If you don't believe that, you need to check out some other forums. This site is notorious for bashing any game that comes out. Had nothing to do with being defensive or whatever your definition of that would be. |
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3/02/12 2:30:55 PM#52
Originally posted by Soopaman seriously? where is it written in humans DNA we are are unable to change opinions or feelings based on other peoples and in turn perhaps form new ones....honestly this is a very close minded way of thinking. Discussion forums are mainly to "discuss" ones opinions and feelings on a topic, that is primarily their purpose in most cases I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg |
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3/02/12 2:35:53 PM#53
Originally posted by grimal So, if they made the game where the worlds were more open, like Tatooine, but still with a little more exploration, caves to explore and more to do, it means that guy is asking for a AAA sandbox? Nice arguement....Reverse engineer your argument, that means the ultimate themepark is one single room, that you never have to leave and can quest in the one room by killing 10 womp rats on the floor all day?! I can not wait till we get this ultimate AAA Themepark! |
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3/02/12 2:37:00 PM#54
Originally posted by Aerowyn This is a "personal" choice. Never said ppl minds cant be changed about anthing. I dont think you understood my post |
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3/02/12 2:39:33 PM#55
Originally posted by Soopaman your post makes no sense... everything you can say about any said topic is your opinion or personal preference. But you said you enjoy debating about topics.. if your argument is not your opinion or personal choice than what are you debating with? are you copying and pasting stuff from other sources and using it? sorry I'm really confused by your argument. I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg |
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3/02/12 2:45:17 PM#56
Originally posted by Aerowyn Think back to your english classes, the teacher/instructor was always telling you to 'back it up', if you gave an opinion, you had to try to validate that opinion for yourself, not for others, but someone saying 'IT'S GREAT!!!', adds about as much to the debate as someone saying 'IT'S TOILET PAPER!!!', and then pretty much not add anything. I think I got my moneys worth out of it, but I do not hold my money for a game as holy as some others, I think the meshing of the MMO aspect and the single player story aspect weakend both, and made it mediocre in both genres. Story doesn't change things or matter enough, and the mmo aspect is VERY linear, the crafting was obsolete for the most part (minus stims, but they are supposedly working on that), harvesting is a mini-game for most the items you really need, and when you actually do harvest, you do not have a good system of common/rare/utlra rare type components that add depth....Game just lacks depth and quality alternative avenues of play imo on the MMO side.
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3/02/12 2:48:33 PM#57
Originally posted by Aerowyn If ppl are going to debate an opinion its need to be backed up with factual data. In the since of video games a person likes or dislikes are not fatual data. They are personal at best. Supporting a opinion with more of your opinion or reasoning makes no sense. |
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3/02/12 2:52:27 PM#58
Originally posted by Croatoan You are not alone bud. I too am enjoying the game and I can't see me going anywhere. Bioware is constantly patching and putting out new content information so I am staying put. After GW2 launches, these flamers will then have something to do besides trash SWTOR. |
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3/02/12 2:53:12 PM#59
Like has been stated a few times, negativity is quite normal on these forums. You'll rarely see a game that satisfies the extravagant requirement of the people that frequent these forums. |
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3/02/12 3:00:37 PM#60
Originally posted by Soopaman I think some things are definitely personal and cannot (and should not) adequately be described. Like, "why do you love your wife?" But I don't really see this in the case of describing why you like a video game. It's not really a...sensitive subject. And if it is...then well that's kind of interesting lol :). Just for an example of a reason why someone likes SWTOR, I will use my RL friend who still really likes SWTOR. My friend, let's call him Alan always hated WoW or any other MMORPG, and yet he loves SWTOR. I asked him why, and it turns out that he loves SWTOR because he can play it completely single player and he likes the story. He actually hated (vanilla) WoW because of the fact that he had to group with other people at some points to advance, and there wasn't much of a story. Now personally, I think this is a silly reason to like an MMORPG (because I can play it alone), but to each his own. I may disagree with his opinion, but I respect it. Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob? |
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