I seriously don't know why I come here anymore to be honet. MMORPG is reknown for it's haters and complainers. As soon as a new game is coming out, you see the "Hater" bandwagon shift gears to start hating on another game. ATM Tera has been getting it. The next big MMO will get it after that.

I'm really enjoying SWTOR. Everytime I see someone bring up a list of supposed faults, I honestly don't know where they get 99% of it. After playing a Vangaurd to 50 and a Juggernaut to 50, I'm still just as excited leveling my Operative (lvl19) through the contest for the 3rd time. I'm able to go a slightly different route, enough to keep everything fresh. But keep in mind, I love stories so this mmo-RPG is more than fun for me. I leveled my Vanguaurd almosty soley grouping and like you said, only took me a few minutes to find a group whenever I wanted one.

The biggest problem is that the world is so empty. I play on a PvP server and running into someone from the opposite faction is a rarity, running into someone from the same faction sadly is also. I'm heading for my 4th 50 now and if i didn't have a mate on vent still playing this game i'd probably be gone by now. The stories are great the worlds also look great but there's no life to any of them unless visiting the fleet and to a lesser extent Ilum.

When the game first came out it wasn't so noticable as plenty of other players were around, now that there isn't it's hard to miss just how lifeless it all is.

Originally posted by Croatoan

This is not meant to be an inflammatory post at all.

But having read alot of the comments here and there about SWTOR not living up to the hype, being a shit game, etc, I have to wonder - am I not seeing something?

 

I have read the comments about the engine being bad, yet I play the game with no problems - and not on a muscle-machine CPU either.

 

I have read about people complaing about the game being basically a single player game with MMO aspects tossed in for merit.  Yet I can find a group minutes after logging in.

 

I know alot of people were expecting a better product.  But to me, the game seems ok.  What things am I overlooking?

 

Sounds to me that you are not really asking but rather telling us that there is nothing wrong with the game but what the heck, I will bite.

1. Game is too much focused on class quests which are mostly instanced and can be done solo. This I would say is the number one feature of the game and as such is both instanced and easily done solo. Now if you want your game to be an MMORPG where people interact with each other, this is a major design flaw. You have everyone living in their own personal bubble, where they are the saviour/conqueror of the galaxy, which makes little sense in an MMORPG where you are supposed to share the world with others.
2. Dark/Light side. This is the core of Star Wars, yet in this game all this does is your physicial appearance (if you go dark) and what gear you can use. Seriously, that is all they could do with the core element of Star Wars?
3. The game is extremely linear, more so than your regular ThemePark, and once you are done with a planet you have little to no reason to return to it. This, instead of creating a galaxy/world feel, instead creates a static life less galaxy which is on rails rather a living breathing world.
4. Lack of open world activities. Seriously, is there anything in this game which is just out there in the world and where you can bump into other players trying to do? It feels that almost everything you do in this game is done in some kind of instance, shielding you from other people.
5. PvP in this game is horribly done. Warzones are designed so bad that having some kind of tactics and formations is all but impossible and almost all fights degenerate into a messy free for all. In WAR the scenarios were designed in such a way that you could create tactics and formation with healers and nukers at the back and melee and tanks in the front, in this game it is all but impossible to hold the ranks.
6. Open world PvP is horrible and non existant. There are no rewards and no objectives and the quest lines are designed in such a way to separate people as much as possible. This makes the PvP servers pointless.
7. Ilum is broken. I dont think you can find many who disagrees with this. It is just poorly designed with boring objectives.
8. Crafting is boring to the extent that they simply just are peddling this on the NPC companions. Also the end game items are worthless which makes the whole thing just a waste of time.
9. Mirrored classes. For me this makes no sense, lorewise. Yoda said: A Jedi uses the force for knowledge and defence, never to attack. This should somehow reflect the different ways of Jedi and Sith using the Force, yet in this game they are exact mirrors of each other. A cop-out, for the sake of balancing, if you ask me.
10. Gfx are sub-par. I dont have a monster machine and I dont get any performance issues but even on the highest setting this game does not hold a candle to other modern MMOs out there. And this is tech-wise, not the artistic side which is quite well done.

Its of my opinion that most of the MMORPG.COM community are extremist. I will compare MMORPG to Faux News and BSNBC all on the same site. I believe that MMORPG should be a resource of information. But instead you get ppl bashing one anothers POV. Ppl rep games like, gang memebers rep their local city. The trend on this website is to hype games under development and once its released the bashing onslaught begins.

Never choose someone's else pov over your own. If you want to see what the game is about buy it and play it. If it doesn't fit your sytle of play quit the game. If its a money issue wait the the 2 week trial kicks in and at that time make a decision. I know what I was getting into before the game was released. SWTOR delivered what I expected it too. A great story I can enjoy.

Originally posted by select20

I seriously don't know why I come here anymore to be honet. MMORPG is reknown for it's haters and complainers. As soon as a new game is coming out, you see the "Hater" bandwagon shift gears to start hating on another game. ATM Tera has been getting it. The next big MMO will get it after that.

 

I'm really enjoying SWTOR. Everytime I see someone bring up a list of supposed faults, I honestly don't know where they get 99% of it. After playing a Vangaurd to 50 and a Juggernaut to 50, I'm still just as excited leveling my Operative (lvl19) through the contest for the 3rd time. I'm able to go a slightly different route, enough to keep everything fresh. But keep in mind, I love stories so this mmo-RPG is more than fun for me. I leveled my Vanguaurd almosty soley grouping and like you said, only took me a few minutes to find a group whenever I wanted one.

The real question is why some get so defensive or upset simply because everyone else doesn't share their views about this or whatever other game is the topic of discussion one way or the other. Far as bandwagoneers go, you could use that rationale for both sides that go to the extreme. One is no better or less annoying than the other far as I'm concerned.

Rather amusing though if you don't take things so seriously which unfortunately a lot of posters seem to have a problem doing.

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by Croatoan

This is not meant to be an inflammatory post at all.

But having read alot of the comments here and there about SWTOR not living up to the hype, being a shit game, etc, I have to wonder - am I not seeing something?

 

I have read the comments about the engine being bad, yet I play the game with no problems - and not on a muscle-machine CPU either.

 

I have read about people complaing about the game being basically a single player game with MMO aspects tossed in for merit.  Yet I can find a group minutes after logging in.

 

I know alot of people were expecting a better product.  But to me, the game seems ok.  What things am I overlooking?

 

Sounds to me that you are not really asking but rather telling us that there is nothing wrong with the game but what the heck, I will bite.

1. Game is too much focused on class quests which are mostly instanced and can be done solo. This I would say is the number one feature of the game and as such is both instanced and easily done solo. Now if you want your game to be an MMORPG where people interact with each other, this is a major design flaw. You have everyone living in their own personal bubble, where they are the saviour/conqueror of the galaxy, which makes little sense in an MMORPG where you are supposed to share the world with others.
2. Dark/Light side. This is the core of Star Wars, yet in this game all this does is your physicial appearance (if you go dark) and what gear you can use. Seriously, that is all they could do with the core element of Star Wars?
3. The game is extremely linear, more so than your regular ThemePark, and once you are done with a planet you have little to no reason to return to it. This, instead of creating a galaxy/world feel, instead creates a static life less galaxy which is on rails rather a living breathing world.
4. Lack of open world activities. Seriously, is there anything in this game which is just out there in the world and where you can bump into other players trying to do? It feels that almost everything you do in this game is done in some kind of instance, shielding you from other people.
5. PvP in this game is horribly done. Warzones are designed so bad that having some kind of tactics and formations is all but impossible and almost all fights degenerate into a messy free for all. In WAR the scenarios were designed in such a way that you could create tactics and formation with healers and nukers at the back and melee and tanks in the front, in this game it is all but impossible to hold the ranks.
6. Open world PvP is horrible and non existant. There are no rewards and no objectives and the quest lines are designed in such a way to separate people as much as possible. This makes the PvP servers pointless.
7. Ilum is broken. I dont think you can find many who disagrees with this. It is just poorly designed with boring objectives.
8. Crafting is boring to the extent that they simply just are peddling this on the NPC companions. Also the end game items are worthless which makes the whole thing just a waste of time.
9. Mirrored classes. For me this makes no sense, lorewise. Yoda said: A Jedi uses the force for knowledge and defence, never to attack. This should somehow reflect the different ways of Jedi and Sith using the Force, yet in this game they are exact mirrors of each other. A cop-out, for the sake of balancing, if you ask me.
10. Gfx are sub-par. I dont have a monster machine and I dont get any performance issues but even on the highest setting this game does not hold a candle to other modern MMOs out there. And this is tech-wise, not the artistic side which is quite well done.

And these are just from the top of my head, I could go on and on about how very average this game is.

some good points.. thing is people who love this game could care less if you give them 1 million examples of issues and show them video of each and every issue. They come back with "well none of this bothers me" then come here and wonder why so many people start threads about issues they have with the game.

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by Croatoan

This is not meant to be an inflammatory post at all.

But having read alot of the comments here and there about SWTOR not living up to the hype, being a shit game, etc, I have to wonder - am I not seeing something?

 

I have read the comments about the engine being bad, yet I play the game with no problems - and not on a muscle-machine CPU either.

 

I have read about people complaing about the game being basically a single player game with MMO aspects tossed in for merit.  Yet I can find a group minutes after logging in.

 

I know alot of people were expecting a better product.  But to me, the game seems ok.  What things am I overlooking?

 

Sounds to me that you are not really asking but rather telling us that there is nothing wrong with the game but what the heck, I will bite.

1. Game is too much focused on class quests which are mostly instanced and can be done solo. This I would say is the number one feature of the game and as such is both instanced and easily done solo. Now if you want your game to be an MMORPG where people interact with each other, this is a major design flaw. You have everyone living in their own personal bubble, where they are the saviour/conqueror of the galaxy, which makes little sense in an MMORPG where you are supposed to share the world with others.
2. Dark/Light side. This is the core of Star Wars, yet in this game all this does is your physicial appearance (if you go dark) and what gear you can use. Seriously, that is all they could do with the core element of Star Wars?
3. The game is extremely linear, more so than your regular ThemePark, and once you are done with a planet you have little to no reason to return to it. This, instead of creating a galaxy/world feel, instead creates a static life less galaxy which is on rails rather a living breathing world.
4. Lack of open world activities. Seriously, is there anything in this game which is just out there in the world and where you can bump into other players trying to do? It feels that almost everything you do in this game is done in some kind of instance, shielding you from other people.
5. PvP in this game is horribly done. Warzones are designed so bad that having some kind of tactics and formations is all but impossible and almost all fights degenerate into a messy free for all. In WAR the scenarios were designed in such a way that you could create tactics and formation with healers and nukers at the back and melee and tanks in the front, in this game it is all but impossible to hold the ranks.
6. Open world PvP is horrible and non existant. There are no rewards and no objectives and the quest lines are designed in such a way to separate people as much as possible. This makes the PvP servers pointless.
7. Ilum is broken. I dont think you can find many who disagrees with this. It is just poorly designed with boring objectives.
8. Crafting is boring to the extent that they simply just are peddling this on the NPC companions. Also the end game items are worthless which makes the whole thing just a waste of time.
9. Mirrored classes. For me this makes no sense, lorewise. Yoda said: A Jedi uses the force for knowledge and defence, never to attack. This should somehow reflect the different ways of Jedi and Sith using the Force, yet in this game they are exact mirrors of each other. A cop-out, for the sake of balancing, if you ask me.
10. Gfx are sub-par. I dont have a monster machine and I dont get any performance issues but even on the highest setting this game does not hold a candle to other modern MMOs out there. And this is tech-wise, not the artistic side which is quite well done.

And these are just from the top of my head, I could go on and on about how very average this game is.

some good points.. thing is people who love this game could care less if you give them 1 million examples of issues and show them video of each and every issue. They come back with "well none of this bothers me" then come here and wonder why so many people start threads about issues they have with the game.

Let me make sure I understand this correctly. The poster pointed out things that affect his opinion and somehow his opinion should affect me.

Originally posted by Croatoan

This is not meant to be an inflammatory post at all.

But having read alot of the comments here and there about SWTOR not living up to the hype, being a shit game, etc, I have to wonder - am I not seeing something?

 

I have read the comments about the engine being bad, yet I play the game with no problems - and not on a muscle-machine CPU either.

 

I have read about people complaing about the game being basically a single player game with MMO aspects tossed in for merit.  Yet I can find a group minutes after logging in.

 

I know alot of people were expecting a better product.  But to me, the game seems ok.  What things am I overlooking?

 

What you need to do is completely avoid the forums, here and anywhere else.  Clearly you enjoy the game (as do I) and you're letting other people's hatred affect you.  It's human nature to not like something when you "perceive" that everyone else hates it.  On a subconscious level, you start to dislike the game as well.  It happens to me all the time.  

I read negativity on the forums, I log on and do something that 99% of the time I enjoy, but because someone else made a rant about the aspect of the game I previously and obliviously enjoyed, I start to become overly critical.

Play the game on your own terms, completely ignore other people's opinions, because that's all it is.  If a month from now, you hate the game, it will be on your own terms and not the negative influence of others.

Negativity breeds negativity.   

Originally posted by Soopaman

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by Croatoan

This is not meant to be an inflammatory post at all.

But having read alot of the comments here and there about SWTOR not living up to the hype, being a shit game, etc, I have to wonder - am I not seeing something?

 

I have read the comments about the engine being bad, yet I play the game with no problems - and not on a muscle-machine CPU either.

 

I have read about people complaing about the game being basically a single player game with MMO aspects tossed in for merit.  Yet I can find a group minutes after logging in.

 

I know alot of people were expecting a better product.  But to me, the game seems ok.  What things am I overlooking?

 

Sounds to me that you are not really asking but rather telling us that there is nothing wrong with the game but what the heck, I will bite.

1. Game is too much focused on class quests which are mostly instanced and can be done solo. This I would say is the number one feature of the game and as such is both instanced and easily done solo. Now if you want your game to be an MMORPG where people interact with each other, this is a major design flaw. You have everyone living in their own personal bubble, where they are the saviour/conqueror of the galaxy, which makes little sense in an MMORPG where you are supposed to share the world with others.
2. Dark/Light side. This is the core of Star Wars, yet in this game all this does is your physicial appearance (if you go dark) and what gear you can use. Seriously, that is all they could do with the core element of Star Wars?
3. The game is extremely linear, more so than your regular ThemePark, and once you are done with a planet you have little to no reason to return to it. This, instead of creating a galaxy/world feel, instead creates a static life less galaxy which is on rails rather a living breathing world.
4. Lack of open world activities. Seriously, is there anything in this game which is just out there in the world and where you can bump into other players trying to do? It feels that almost everything you do in this game is done in some kind of instance, shielding you from other people.
5. PvP in this game is horribly done. Warzones are designed so bad that having some kind of tactics and formations is all but impossible and almost all fights degenerate into a messy free for all. In WAR the scenarios were designed in such a way that you could create tactics and formation with healers and nukers at the back and melee and tanks in the front, in this game it is all but impossible to hold the ranks.
6. Open world PvP is horrible and non existant. There are no rewards and no objectives and the quest lines are designed in such a way to separate people as much as possible. This makes the PvP servers pointless.
7. Ilum is broken. I dont think you can find many who disagrees with this. It is just poorly designed with boring objectives.
8. Crafting is boring to the extent that they simply just are peddling this on the NPC companions. Also the end game items are worthless which makes the whole thing just a waste of time.
9. Mirrored classes. For me this makes no sense, lorewise. Yoda said: A Jedi uses the force for knowledge and defence, never to attack. This should somehow reflect the different ways of Jedi and Sith using the Force, yet in this game they are exact mirrors of each other. A cop-out, for the sake of balancing, if you ask me.
10. Gfx are sub-par. I dont have a monster machine and I dont get any performance issues but even on the highest setting this game does not hold a candle to other modern MMOs out there. And this is tech-wise, not the artistic side which is quite well done.

And these are just from the top of my head, I could go on and on about how very average this game is.

some good points.. thing is people who love this game could care less if you give them 1 million examples of issues and show them video of each and every issue. They come back with "well none of this bothers me" then come here and wonder why so many people start threads about issues they have with the game.

Let me make sure I understand this correctly. The poster pointed out things that affect his opinion and somehow his opinion should affect me.

no BUT i hate it when people come here and say this is the best game ever or this game blows with nothing else to say for it.. yet someone comes up with a page full of issues and he is still a hater because he found issues with a game. Happens here all the time.. but I have noticed people who really have issues with the game seem to elaborate their points on why much better than people who feel this game is great.

Originally posted by arctarus

Originally posted by grimal

 

All themepark style games are linear by nature.  And that AAA sandbox release you are waiting for?  Not going to happen.  That's a thing of the past.

I, personally, enjoyed Aion.  I played about 9 months.  WAR I did not care for at all.  That being said, this is much better than both.

I'm enoying this about the same, if not more, than I was enjoying LOTRO when it launched.  And I hold LOTRO in high regards.

 

good for you.

I've try to like LOTR, but same small zone ive feel towards it, loading screen when taking the npc mount ride? haiz...

Just not my game.

Have a level 39 glad in aion, will check it out again once it f2p start.

But now im worried about gw2 zoning...

 

You do know that you can ride to the destination without using a single loading screen,they are just for fast travel.In swtor you have no choice but to use a loading screen,that's the only option to get to one world or another.

LOTRO is way more open world than swtor is.

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Soopaman

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by Croatoan

This is not meant to be an inflammatory post at all.

But having read alot of the comments here and there about SWTOR not living up to the hype, being a shit game, etc, I have to wonder - am I not seeing something?

 

I have read the comments about the engine being bad, yet I play the game with no problems - and not on a muscle-machine CPU either.

 

I have read about people complaing about the game being basically a single player game with MMO aspects tossed in for merit.  Yet I can find a group minutes after logging in.

 

I know alot of people were expecting a better product.  But to me, the game seems ok.  What things am I overlooking?

 

Sounds to me that you are not really asking but rather telling us that there is nothing wrong with the game but what the heck, I will bite.

1. Game is too much focused on class quests which are mostly instanced and can be done solo. This I would say is the number one feature of the game and as such is both instanced and easily done solo. Now if you want your game to be an MMORPG where people interact with each other, this is a major design flaw. You have everyone living in their own personal bubble, where they are the saviour/conqueror of the galaxy, which makes little sense in an MMORPG where you are supposed to share the world with others.
2. Dark/Light side. This is the core of Star Wars, yet in this game all this does is your physicial appearance (if you go dark) and what gear you can use. Seriously, that is all they could do with the core element of Star Wars?
3. The game is extremely linear, more so than your regular ThemePark, and once you are done with a planet you have little to no reason to return to it. This, instead of creating a galaxy/world feel, instead creates a static life less galaxy which is on rails rather a living breathing world.
4. Lack of open world activities. Seriously, is there anything in this game which is just out there in the world and where you can bump into other players trying to do? It feels that almost everything you do in this game is done in some kind of instance, shielding you from other people.
5. PvP in this game is horribly done. Warzones are designed so bad that having some kind of tactics and formations is all but impossible and almost all fights degenerate into a messy free for all. In WAR the scenarios were designed in such a way that you could create tactics and formation with healers and nukers at the back and melee and tanks in the front, in this game it is all but impossible to hold the ranks.
6. Open world PvP is horrible and non existant. There are no rewards and no objectives and the quest lines are designed in such a way to separate people as much as possible. This makes the PvP servers pointless.
7. Ilum is broken. I dont think you can find many who disagrees with this. It is just poorly designed with boring objectives.
8. Crafting is boring to the extent that they simply just are peddling this on the NPC companions. Also the end game items are worthless which makes the whole thing just a waste of time.
9. Mirrored classes. For me this makes no sense, lorewise. Yoda said: A Jedi uses the force for knowledge and defence, never to attack. This should somehow reflect the different ways of Jedi and Sith using the Force, yet in this game they are exact mirrors of each other. A cop-out, for the sake of balancing, if you ask me.
10. Gfx are sub-par. I dont have a monster machine and I dont get any performance issues but even on the highest setting this game does not hold a candle to other modern MMOs out there. And this is tech-wise, not the artistic side which is quite well done.

And these are just from the top of my head, I could go on and on about how very average this game is.

some good points.. thing is people who love this game could care less if you give them 1 million examples of issues and show them video of each and every issue. They come back with "well none of this bothers me" then come here and wonder why so many people start threads about issues they have with the game.

Let me make sure I understand this correctly. The poster pointed out things that affect his opinion and somehow his opinion should affect me.

no BUT i hate it when people come here and say this is the best game ever or this game blows with nothing else to say for it.. yet someone comes up with a page full of issues and he is still a hater because he found issues with a game. Happens here all the time.. but I have noticed people who really have issues with the game seem to elaborate their points on why much better than people who feel this game is great.

Even if the person coming on this website stating this is the best mmorpg since sliced bread I can respect that person POV. Even though I may disagree. Opinions are personally and cant be discounted if you believe the opposite. The same goes for ppl bashing a game because they dont like it. Its their opinion.

Originally posted by Sylvarii

Originally posted by arctarus

Originally posted by grimal

 

All themepark style games are linear by nature.  And that AAA sandbox release you are waiting for?  Not going to happen.  That's a thing of the past.

I, personally, enjoyed Aion.  I played about 9 months.  WAR I did not care for at all.  That being said, this is much better than both.

I'm enoying this about the same, if not more, than I was enjoying LOTRO when it launched.  And I hold LOTRO in high regards.

 

good for you.

I've try to like LOTR, but same small zone ive feel towards it, loading screen when taking the npc mount ride? haiz...

Just not my game.

Have a level 39 glad in aion, will check it out again once it f2p start.

But now im worried about gw2 zoning...

 

You do know that you can ride to the destination without using a single loading screen,they are just for fast travel.In swtor you have no choice but to use a loading screen,that's the only option to get to one world or another.

LOTRO is way more open world than swtor is.

Originally posted by Soopaman

 

Even if the person coming on this website stating this is the best mmorpg since sliced bread I can respect that person POV. Even though I may disagree. Opinions are personally and cant be discounted if you believe the opposite. The same goes for ppl bashing a game because they dont like it. Its their opinion.

agreed everything is opinion but its how you portray that opinion. Just from what I've read here and on other sites people who dislike this game are able to portray why a lot of the time in great detail yet most people who disagree with them are unable to form any sort of counter argument other than I don't agree and game is great.

Originally posted by smh_alot

Originally posted by Sylvarii

Originally posted by arctarus

Originally posted by grimal

 

All themepark style games are linear by nature.  And that AAA sandbox release you are waiting for?  Not going to happen.  That's a thing of the past.

I, personally, enjoyed Aion.  I played about 9 months.  WAR I did not care for at all.  That being said, this is much better than both.

I'm enoying this about the same, if not more, than I was enjoying LOTRO when it launched.  And I hold LOTRO in high regards.

 

good for you.

I've try to like LOTR, but same small zone ive feel towards it, loading screen when taking the npc mount ride? haiz...

Just not my game.

Have a level 39 glad in aion, will check it out again once it f2p start.

But now im worried about gw2 zoning...

 

You do know that you can ride to the destination without using a single loading screen,they are just for fast travel.In swtor you have no choice but to use a loading screen,that's the only option to get to one world or another.

LOTRO is way more open world than swtor is.

 

What are you suggesting, that people walk from one planet to the next? Sure, that makes sense -_-

 

As for being able to walk from one end to the other in GW2, that's news to me. Up till now I thought there were loading screens when entering/exiting cities and traveling between regions/areas. At least that's what the videos and other GW2 information threads seem to point out.

Ermm, did you the miss the part where i mentioned LOTRO,that's the game i'm talking about.

As for SWTOR,beens you mentioned it, how about  FLYING  from one planet to the next,guess that doesn't make sence to you either,right?

First, I have no problem with anyone who genuinely enjoys this game and just wants to play.  If you are having fun...awesome, keep it up :).

Second, I have been very critical of SWTOR as many people know, but there's a reason why.  Waaay before SWTOR came out, I and many others from this site, were constantly complaining about how each new game is far too similar to WoW and seemed to become more and more linear and focused on "single player" (not soloing, single player).  For example, even vanilla WoW offered a lot more freedom than say, WAR.  And with the advent of things like phasing, the questing experience has shifted to become more and more single player.

Then SWTOR comes out and it's almost the physical embodiment of everything we have been complaining about.  From a gameplay point of view, it's almost EXACTLY like WoW.  Yes, the story part is Bioware stuff, but do people really play MMORPGs for 2 years for the story?  Of course not...gameplay is what keeps you there, and IMO, gameplay is what matters the most in an MMORPG.

It's WAY more linear than any MMORPG I have ever seen, and brings single player to a whole new level with all the instanced class quest areas and cinematics that need your undivided attention.  So, given that we have expressed the viewpoint that MMORPGs copying WoW and becoming more linear, and more single player is a bad trend, I almost think we would be remiss if we didn't complain about SWTOR.

Finally, I can say that at least for myself, I'm not trying to ruin your fun if you enjoy SWTOR.  I'm more trying to be critical of Bioware for showing an utter lack of backbone and innovation in their extremely high budget game.

Originally posted by Valentina

There's really no problems with SW:TOR at all.

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Soopaman

 

Even if the person coming on this website stating this is the best mmorpg since sliced bread I can respect that person POV. Even though I may disagree. Opinions are personally and cant be discounted if you believe the opposite. The same goes for ppl bashing a game because they dont like it. Its their opinion.

agreed everything is opinion but its how you portray that opinion. Just from what I've read here and on other sites people who dislike this game are able to portray why a lot of the time in great detail yet most people who disagree with them are unable to form any sort of counter argument other than I don't agree and game is great.

 Truer words have never been written.

Originally posted by Sylvarii

Originally posted by smh_alot

Originally posted by Sylvarii

Originally posted by arctarus

Originally posted by grimal

 

All themepark style games are linear by nature.  And that AAA sandbox release you are waiting for?  Not going to happen.  That's a thing of the past.

I, personally, enjoyed Aion.  I played about 9 months.  WAR I did not care for at all.  That being said, this is much better than both.

I'm enoying this about the same, if not more, than I was enjoying LOTRO when it launched.  And I hold LOTRO in high regards.

 

good for you.

I've try to like LOTR, but same small zone ive feel towards it, loading screen when taking the npc mount ride? haiz...

Just not my game.

Have a level 39 glad in aion, will check it out again once it f2p start.

But now im worried about gw2 zoning...

 

You do know that you can ride to the destination without using a single loading screen,they are just for fast travel.In swtor you have no choice but to use a loading screen,that's the only option to get to one world or another.

LOTRO is way more open world than swtor is.

 

What are you suggesting, that people walk from one planet to the next? Sure, that makes sense -_-

 

As for being able to walk from one end to the other in GW2, that's news to me. Up till now I thought there were loading screens when entering/exiting cities and traveling between regions/areas. At least that's what the videos and other GW2 information threads seem to point out.

Ermm, did you the miss the part where i mentioned LOTRO,that's the game i'm talking about.

As for SWTOR,beens you mentioned it, how about  FLYING  from one planet to the next,guess that doesn't make sence to you either,right?

Originally posted by Creslin321

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Soopaman

 

Even if the person coming on this website stating this is the best mmorpg since sliced bread I can respect that person POV. Even though I may disagree. Opinions are personally and cant be discounted if you believe the opposite. The same goes for ppl bashing a game because they dont like it. Its their opinion.

agreed everything is opinion but its how you portray that opinion. Just from what I've read here and on other sites people who dislike this game are able to portray why a lot of the time in great detail yet most people who disagree with them are unable to form any sort of counter argument other than I don't agree and game is great.

 Truer words have never been written.

I dont see why either side of the isle needs to justify their POV. Justifying why you feel a certain way is pointless. It proves nothing other than to back up what that person may or may not believe. If I can give a few "personal" reasons why I like or dislike a game. What does it prove?

I am having fun with this game.  I have one char at 42 and one at 30.  I do not expect to continue playing this game with the char at 50.  I plan to roll a republic to see how that is, but done after that.  I am already finding myself playing less of SWTOR each night and more of LOL again.  I do not have time or desire to raid and continue to go for incremental armor increases at max level.  I have done enough of that. 

But, I am enjoying leveling and story in the game quite a bit.  Playing with companions is a great addition and this game does have the Bioware flare.  The main problem I have with the game is that they keep the factions seperated way too much.  Between the 2 char I have SEEN 2 republic characters and I had to go way into republic lands on Tatottine and Hoth to do this.

If you going to have a pvp and pve servers why make it so you can pretty much never interact with the otherside.  Are there any shared questing areas except for Illum?

I remember loving and hating Straglethorn Vale in WOW as if I remember that was the first zone where I was constantly running into Alliance players.