Originally posted by Kyleran

Originally posted by RefMinor

Originally posted by Sanguinelust

Originally posted by djmtott

You could just say that you don't share in their opinion and shrug it off. Instead you run to the MMORPG.com forums to add one more thread to where no more are needed.

He added one more USELESS thread where no more are needed, but this place likes these kinds of threads.

 

Start your own forum and handpick the members, then you will avoid any chance of disappointment.

Or perhaps people could just not read/respond to threads they don't care for?

Naw, too easy. 

I would hope that Bioware could breath more life into their game world, it could be an amazing place if done right.

 

EXACTLY!

I think the people who are tired of the haters (if they really are tired) should either ignore the haters or take a break from these forums.

People feel the need to vent their anger..  and telling them you're tired of their angry posts is hardly going to help them calm down.  Quite the opposite.

I might have more sympathy if these were the official forums or something, but they're not and as long as people feel the need to release their fustration over this game into some 3rd party forum..  they should.

If you like the game and think the haters are wrong... then we have a conversation.  If you have nothing more to add than 'im tired of all these hater threads'...   then really, who is making the pointless posts here?

Hell, let me put it this way..   im tired of all these people who are tired with hater threads / posts..   you've made your point.. now move on and stop spamming the forums.   :P

(*Tawn needs to order more popcorn.)

Originally posted by TROLL_HARD

Maybe their comment shows that they have heard the feedback that people want and expect a living breathing world. At the very least, I would think they might be working to make this a reality for their game. Only time will tell if they succeed. As of now, they have not, but the game has only just launched. 

Why would they be working on making a living, breathing world when SWTOR is already "built around one", at least according to the original quote.  That's the whole point of the discussion.  Bioware (which isn't really Bioware, but the new EA branded Bioware) is to the point that they are willing to severely stretch the truth (or lie) to encourage people to play or continue to play.  I won't be purchasing anymore Bioware games, period.  Then again, I don't think I'll be purchasing any games with the EA logo anywhere on them any more either.

Originally posted by Vonatar

"Massively Multiplayer Online games are built around living, breathing worlds that are always evolving, and Star Wars™: The Old Republic™ is no different. "

This is how the introduction of patch 1.1.5 begins. I have to say I lol'd since the last thing you could say about TOR is that it includes a living breathing world which is always evolving. Is Bioware really so naive that they think their world can be described in this way?

Now I am not a hater, I am subbed to TOR and have been playing it off and on, although I will say I am one of the bitterly disappointed gamers that was expecting so much more than the shallow linear game Bioware served up which is only fun to play for about a month.

Ty , ty so much to leave our servers. I think i know you, you was that sorcerer guildatowaratodue, right? I got a same feeling in first guild wars

Originally posted by palulalula

Originally posted by Vonatar

"Massively Multiplayer Online games are built around living, breathing worlds that are always evolving, and Star Wars™: The Old Republic™ is no different. "

This is how the introduction of patch 1.1.5 begins. I have to say I lol'd since the last thing you could say about TOR is that it includes a living breathing world which is always evolving. Is Bioware really so naive that they think their world can be described in this way?

Now I am not a hater, I am subbed to TOR and have been playing it off and on, although I will say I am one of the bitterly disappointed gamers that was expecting so much more than the shallow linear game Bioware served up which is only fun to play for about a month.

Ty , ty so much to leave our servers. I think i know you, you was that sorcerer guildatowaratodue, right? I got a same feeling in first guild wars

 

I have no idea what you're saying I'm afraid...

Do you suppose the stationary NPCs that appear to be fighting will ever evolve and actually have movement? 

I think 2 mil. swtor active players would disagree.

Originally posted by Trikke

I think 2 mil. swtor active players would disagree.

As soon as you find those 2 mil swtor active players that are going to disagree, you just let us all know.  They just HAVE to be out there, right?

Originally posted by killion81

Originally posted by Trikke

I think 2 mil. swtor active players would disagree.

 

As soon as you find those 2 mil swtor active players that are going to disagree, you just let us all know.  They just HAVE to be out there, right?

They can't even find a majority of them among those who are actively playing the game still. Imagine if you had all those who already quit. When you can't "stuff" a poll on your own game thread forums, that doesn't say much.

Originally posted by killion81

Originally posted by Trikke

I think 2 mil. swtor active players would disagree.

 

As soon as you find those 2 mil swtor active players that are going to disagree, you just let us all know.  They just HAVE to be out there, right?

 Heheh...2 million, that's funny.

The server populations have declined to the point where I think maybe 1 or 2 were actually "heavy" this weekend during prime time and the rest were standard or light.  It's very possible that they ALL might only be standard or light this weekend.

Given that SWTOR had like 1.7 million players around release and the servers were mainly very heavy or full...I highly doubt that they have anywhere close to 2 million now.

SW:TOR: Living and breathing like a comatose patient in an iron lung.

Honestly, of all the things to complain about with this game, the world designs are not one of them, in my opinion. Not the greatest, but far from the worst. They get the job done, and there's quite a bit going on in the worlds... even though not always done well... like when you go into an area and some NPC's are shooting at enemies you can kill, and you kill them and they'll just keep shooting and shooting anyway. lol

Originally posted by Lobotomist

Originally posted by Ztekan

A MMORPG , is all about, Gain lvl , gathering , evolve, and so on.

its the same as bread

A bread always contain Wheat , Water/milk, a bread is always a bread, you can just flavor it diffrently.

 

If you are looking for newthinking or something different , you might look for something completley different than a mmo.

You cant take away the basic ingredients for the MMO

Exactly,

Just as videogames are about wandering the labyrints eating dots and escaping from ghosts.

You know, like Pac Man.

If you want something different , perhaps video games are not for you.

 

...i bet there were people thinking like this in 80s

 

Thanks god that , we had game companies willing to try and innovate.

Not like Bioware today....

 

Thanks, it was taking me a lot longer to put what you said into words. That was one of the saddest things I've seen in awhile, it just further illustrates how unimaginative some people are or how unaware that varied experiences *have* existed and can exist, just much less so since the WoW clone years.

'We have 250 million dollars to create an online Star Wars universe in which players can come together from all over the globe and play the roles of various characters populating this galaxy. The sky is the limit, we have over a decade of MMOs to learn from and more money than anyone's ever had to do this. What are some fun, exciting and creative ways we can approach this?'. Meh, let's just try to recreate exactly what was done 7 years ago, there couldn't possibly be any other ways of approaching this, ever. All MMOs will only ever be WoW clones until the end of time, right?. 'Sounds good!'.

I don't think it's me that should look for something other than an MMO, they've proven to me in the past and present they can be amazing experiences. Swtor sucking isn't evidence of me not liking MMOs, it's evidence that I have little patience for the uncreative in what's ideally a creative field. It's uninspired developers who can't create a new MMO that should find something else to work on.

The fact that there's been so much backlash towards swtor is just more evidence that we're tired of these generic rip offs when the genre is still so young and has so much room to grow.

And the haters keep on hating.

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.”

Originally posted by Trikke

And the haters keep on hating.

At this point it's more like a guilty pleasure, like a highly comedic kick to the balls.

The satisfaction factor will fade in time. No worries.

Originally posted by MMOarQQ

Originally posted by Trikke

And the haters keep on hating.

 

At this point it's more like a guilty pleasure, like a highly comedic kick to the balls.

The satisfaction factor will fade in time. No worries.

My question is why would people get satisfaction from yet another underperforming MMO?

Originally posted by Distopia

Originally posted by MMOarQQ

Originally posted by Trikke

And the haters keep on hating.

 

At this point it's more like a guilty pleasure, like a highly comedic kick to the balls.

The satisfaction factor will fade in time. No worries.

My question is why would people get satisfaction from yet another underperforming MMO?

 And the alternative is????

Originally posted by Distopia

Originally posted by MMOarQQ

Originally posted by Trikke

And the haters keep on hating.

 

At this point it's more like a guilty pleasure, like a highly comedic kick to the balls.

The satisfaction factor will fade in time. No worries.

My question is why would people get satisfaction from yet another underperforming MMO?

...because the average IQ is situated somewhere between 85 and 100?

It really doesnt suprise me. One thing I think Bioware does well is tell a story within a game. What they have lost touch with since DA:O is the game itself. All the proof needed is DA:2, SWTOR, and it sounds like they did gameplay well but really screwed the pooch on the ending to the ME series.

Its really kind of sad. Such a wonderfull company for RPG lovers and anymore you just cant even begin to guess what to expect from them. Either a great story and bad gameplay or pretty good gameplay (mass effect) and, from the leaks, bad storytelling.

I will give you something to think about.

When wow came, wow had so much bugs and crashed all the time.

I think i got over 40 days of extra days becouse of this.

Also think of the content wow had , 1-60 , 2 raid dungeons and a few instances.

Give Swtor 8 years , and youll get the best game out there,

What you seems to forget are that swtor is still brand new, you stil get the founders title.

Take it easy and enjoy the ride swtor gives you ,and dont rush so fast in a new game, you kids consumes way to fast

Originally posted by Ztekan

I will give you something to think about.

 

When wow came, wow had so much bugs and crashed all the time.

I think i got over 40 days of extra days becouse of this.

Also think of the content wow had , 1-60 , 2 raid dungeons and a few instances.

 

Give Swtor 8 years , and youll get the best game out there,

What you seems to forget are that swtor is still brand new, you stil get the founders title.

 

Take it easy and enjoy the ride swtor gives you ,and dont rush so fast in a new game, you kids consumes way to fast

I will give you something to think about.

WoW is the way it is right now.  SWTOR released now.  SWTOR is competing against other MMORPGs on the market in their current form, not how they were 8 years ago.