Originally posted by Clocksimus

Originally posted by rexzshadow

Originally posted by Beacker

Originally posted by Dreadblade

Been staying out of the Tera arguements but.......I played over the weekend on a PvE server to get a feel for the game. I leveled a zerker to 19, a Lancer to 12 and finally a warrior to 10, at first I was very very skeptical of this game due to the horrid chat on the nub island and honestly the Elin (which I felt were a Pedo's dream). That all said I perservered through the starter zone for the first time on my zerker and the game slowly grew on me, the graphics were top notch to be honest once I tweaked them a bit.

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 You guys need to stop with the Elins and the pedo stuff. Seriously it is getting old. Do some research behing the lore of the Elin and stop being ignorant about them.

Seriously its getting pretty old -.- should i say everyone who play undead in WoW has a zombie fetish? Or any animal like character furrys? etc...the list goes on. Seriously its an fucking artistic taste difference get over it, there many female that love Elin because they are cute. Why do guy have to be so paranoid about this shit god.(for all guys who think this is for pedos i darn you go to up go a female that like Elin and say it to her face and see how that works out for you -.-) And also if anyone read up on the lore they are fcking hundreds of years old. Forever young representing their pureness in reflect of the god that created them.

What is getting old  are people defending the Elin pretending that they don't look extremely young. Questionably legal in our world, in a game where every female character is eiher wearing a metal thong, leather thong or  maybe nothing at all.  Your average  person will log into TERA and scroll through the races.....

Human female - "Why can't my wife look like that?"

Castanic  female - "Wow they clearly  aren't scared to show some skin"

Popori - "They have hamsters too?!?!"

Elin - "......WTF?""

 

At least this was my intial reaction and pretty much anyone else I showed the character creation to.  Now if this was some cute anime game where everything is brightly coloured and PG13 then Elin really wouldn't be such a big deal but that just isn't the case.  Not everyone playing an Elin will do it because they like the sight of what can be taken as a little girl  dressed by a terrible mother but the topic it brings up is a very serious one and isn't something anyone should take lightly. 

 

They aren't going to take Elin out of the game but TERA's overuse of sexuality, imo, has always been one of the major factors holding it back it from mainstream success.

 It is a high fantasy game. Who cares if the Elin look young that is just how they animate in Korea. Don't like the race don't play it. Also I am not scrolling through the toons and comparing it to real life because I know it is just a game. Unlike others I do not find pixels in a game a turn on....

Originally posted by Beacker

Originally posted by Dreadblade

Been staying out of the Tera arguements but.......I played over the weekend on a PvE server to get a feel for the game. I leveled a zerker to 19, a Lancer to 12 and finally a warrior to 10, at first I was very very skeptical of this game due to the horrid chat on the nub island and honestly the Elin (which I felt were a Pedo's dream). That all said I perservered through the starter zone for the first time on my zerker and the game slowly grew on me, the graphics were top notch to be honest once I tweaked them a bit.

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 You guys need to stop with the Elins and the pedo stuff. Seriously it is getting old. Do some research behind the lore of the Elin and stop being ignorant about them.

Did you even read my whole post or did you stop at the Pedo part and become unglued???? I gave the game a pretty good write up along with my intial impressions, what I am not allowed to have them???? Those are intial impressions, did I quit at that point no, did I keep playing yes, and after a while the Elin just flowed along with every other toon. Quit being so defensive about the Elin

Originally posted by Dreadblade

Did you even read my whole post or did you stop at the Pedo part and become unglued???? I gave the game a pretty good write up along with my intial impressions, what I am not allowed to have them???? Those are intial impressions, did I quit at that point no, did I keep playing yes, and after a while the Elin just flowed along with every other toon. Quit being so defensive about the Elin

 I read the whole post, but its gotten to the point where whether in a good or bad way people do not even want to hear the Elin mentioned after all the garbage that has gone on.

Good writeup nonetheless. 

Originally posted by Pivotelite

Originally posted by Dreadblade

Did you even read my whole post or did you stop at the Pedo part and become unglued???? I gave the game a pretty good write up along with my intial impressions, what I am not allowed to have them???? Those are intial impressions, did I quit at that point no, did I keep playing yes, and after a while the Elin just flowed along with every other toon. Quit being so defensive about the Elin

 I read the whole post, but its gotten to the point where whether in a good or bad way people do not even want to hear the Elin mentioned after all the garbage that has gone on.

 

Good writeup nonetheless. 

I agree and maybe I should have put a line in saying that after a bit the Elin just flowed with the game like every other toon, it is just a shock to some of us at first. I am looking forward to playing this game at release, hell I can't wait for the next beta weekend!

Doesn't Tera have a great guild system and political system built into it?  Isn't there territorial control even?  Open world PvP?  These things alone will give this game a great foothold in keeping playing longer.   Add to that the robust combat system that seems to be a little more action oriented meshed with player skill and it might be a game that draws a large portion of the PvP crowd.

I wouldn't be so quick to throw this game under the bus.

Originally posted by Teala

Doesn't Tera have a great guild system and political system built into it?  Isn't there territorial control even?  Open world PvP?  These things alone will give this game a great foothold in keeping playing longer.   Add to that the robust combat system that seems to be a little more action oriented meshed with player skill and it might be a game that draws a large portion of the PvP crowd.

I wouldn't be so quick to throw this game under the bus.

It's not as interesting as it sounds on paper. There is a reason that no one in Korea talks about the political system or the territorial control much. Also with pointless world PvP and animation locks with combat animations can turn off PvPers just as much as the rest draws them in.

Originally posted by Alminie

 and no MMO has BAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

You mean no MMO has an incredibly stupid, cringe inducing name for their heroic monsters?  Ill give you that.

But i don't think thats what you are going for....

Elite mobs in MMOs are hardly new.....

Originally posted by Pivotelite

Originally posted by Dreadblade

 Agreed, people grade this game based on it's questing, it's a themepark, it didn't claim to bring dynamic questing, what are you grading? It's doing what it set out to do very well and I enjoy it.

 

As for your point on the combat, it just gets better and better as I level, the more moves you get the better, then you set up chains and as soon as you hit 20+ the glyphs really allow you to custimize yourself well and determine what moves youll be using in what situations.

 

I started getting items with speed boosts at level 27, yet to see any noticeable difference but I'm sure I will once I get higher level.

Ikr everyone screams like Blue Hole said we going to give you guys the most interactive and dynamic quest ever and then it didn't happen. But Blue Hole never promise or said any of that, it said it was going to offer action combat and it fucking did -.- i mean i'm pretty happy they do what they promise and everyoen else to me is a bonus if they had it or plan to fix.

Originally posted by Clocksimus

Originally posted by rexzshadow

Originally posted by Beacker

Originally posted by Dreadblade
 

 

 

What is getting old  are people defending the Elin pretending that they don't look extremely young. Questionably legal in our world, in a game where every female character is eiher wearing a metal thong, leather thong or  maybe nothing at all.  Your average  person will log into TERA and scroll through the races.....

Human female - "Why can't my wife look like that?"

Castanic  female - "Wow they clearly  aren't scared to show some skin"

Popori - "They have hamsters too?!?!"

Elin - "......WTF?""

 

At least this was my intial reaction and pretty much anyone else I showed the character creation to.  Now if this was some cute anime game where everything is brightly coloured and PG13 then Elin really wouldn't be such a big deal but that just isn't the case.  Not everyone playing an Elin will do it because they like the sight of what can be taken as a little girl  dressed by a terrible mother but the topic it brings up is a very serious one and isn't something anyone should take lightly. 

 

They aren't going to take Elin out of the game but TERA's overuse of sexuality, imo, has always been one of the major factors holding it back it from mainstream success.

Fantasy -.- if anyone compare Fantasy to real life they have issues and thats not the game's fault. Also if anyone bother to read up the lore, Elin look young because it reflext the pureness of the goddess that created them. And the game is freaken rated M, and its Asian art where fucking jiggle physics is born -.- i don't see that as anything abnormal at all. If its not your taste of art fine but doesn't make people who like them bad. And FYI mainstream in NA is all FPS.

Originally posted by Teala

Doesn't Tera have a great guild system and political system built into it?  Isn't there territorial control even?  Open world PvP?  These things alone will give this game a great foothold in keeping playing longer.   Add to that the robust combat system that seems to be a little more action oriented meshed with player skill and it might be a game that draws a large portion of the PvP crowd.

I wouldn't be so quick to throw this game under the bus.

Yep, open world pvp, guild war are 24hrs long and war up to 3 guild at a time with 300 member cap in guild so you can expect some every massive battles. The political system is the terrirtorial control, area are either you fight arena matchs to control it or you have to get voted in to control. And you have to do certain things to stay in control and defeat challengers. This game is very heavly PvP focused for end game, there are hard mode dungeon for PvE players and possibly raid soon in the future but as of now its more PvP. O ya Server Vs Server is also on the list. But people who don't want to like the game don't look at those they just look at whats wrong not whats right.

Originally posted by Clocksimus

Originally posted by Beacker

Thanks for proving my point of people pretending it's ok that Elin look extremely young, it's only pixels so it's ok right?  It would also be ok for fantasy games to encourage racist behaviors then right? It is only some text in an online game, no one will care.

She's 10. Stop looking.

Should i start listing AAA games that made in NA thats much much much much much much much........much much much much much much much worse than having a young child like playable character in them? Trust me the list goes on. I love how peopel complain about games made in Asian been inappropriate while so many more main stream game build on it.

Originally posted by Sector13

Originally posted by Teala

Doesn't Tera have a great guild system and political system built into it?  Isn't there territorial control even?  Open world PvP?  These things alone will give this game a great foothold in keeping playing longer.   Add to that the robust combat system that seems to be a little more action oriented meshed with player skill and it might be a game that draws a large portion of the PvP crowd.

I wouldn't be so quick to throw this game under the bus.

It's not as interesting as it sounds on paper. There is a reason that no one in Korea talks about the political system or the territorial control much. Also with pointless world PvP and animation locks with combat animations can turn off PvPers just as much as the rest draws them in.

Maybe because Korean aren't interested in the same thing? Every thought about the whole culture difference? Who Korean like grinding which is why Aion is still top in Korea while it fails everywhere else? Korean don't even use their open world pvp because they think its bad to pk someone, but here everyone loves it.

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

People are having the same "HoneyMoon" event all over again with TERA since they're only being given small "tastes" of the game with the CB events.

 

From an exhausted experience with MMO's I can tell you straight faced that TERA brings nothing new to the table EXCEPT for their combat system, and even THAT gets boring & repetitive after level 20.

 

Do NOT buy into the hype. TERA is EXACTLY like the WoW-Clone model we keep seeing reused over and over. Go to town A, get all the available quests from there, go kill X number of mobs or get X number of items. Once all quests are done in town A move to town B that is POINTED to by one of the last quests to be given in town A.

 

Rinse, Repeat, get max level in 2-4weeks, get bored. After 3months of eating ALL the content over & over you'll leave again for the next "Overly Hyped" product.

 

Trust this from someone who has been there, seen it, done that, and continues to watch as the same crowed makes the SAME mistake over & over only to make forum posts such as: "I'm leaving, heres why...". Unfortunately, we already KNOW why you're leaving before opening your post in our browser. It just took you some time to see what most already saw, and avoided thereby saving them $105 ($60 box + 3 months sub).

 

Just like SWTOR, Rift, Aion, Alganon, Runes of Magic, Warhammer Online, etc. TERA brings NOTHING new, and continues to same old clone model.

 

HOWEVER, if you're looking for just another "time waster" for a certain game you've had your eyes on (for me, it's Planetside II at the moment) & $105 isn't much for you to waste go right ahead & love TERA until it turns blue in the face :D!

 

Just please, STOP with the "TERA is AMAZING, and will win a duel with GW2 every time!" threads. I don't like GW2 any differently than I like TERA, and in fact I've got PLENTY of criticism for GW2 as well. However, this type of self-denial hype will only trick other people into biased hype.

 

Finally, remember that with ANY product (especially those you WANT to love) a healthy amount of criticism is a GOOD thing.

 

Thank you for reading,

-Faded

 

 

That, and their combat system has been done better by other MMOs.

I don't see this game challenging GW2 or WoW, but it'll be a success and possibly a bigger success than SW:TOR. It has its niche with the Lineage II/Aion crowd.

Originally posted by SuperXero89

I don't see this game challenging GW2 or WoW, but it'll be a success and possibly a bigger success than SW:TOR. It has its niche with the Lineage II/Aion crowd.

You say bigger success than SWToR than say it will attract the crowd of two games that are beyond insignificant in the NA/EU market.  Aion has 4 servers and they arent exactly heavily populated.  I dont think either of those games are as successful as NGE version of SWG was.

Beligerantly condeming the art style of this game doesn't change anyone's opinions of it, it only shows how deperate to be validated people can be.  Seriously, it's rated M for a reason!

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Originally posted by Fadedbomb

 

Would you buy a NEW TV if it was EXACTLY like the one you bought 4yrs ago? NO.

If my TV was broken, and the TV I bought 4 years ago worked well, yes, I would.

Originally posted by lilune

Beligerantly condeming the art style of this game doesn't change anyone's opinions of it, it only shows how deperate to be validated people can be.  Seriously, it's rated M for a reason!

 

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LMAO! FTW! :D

Originally posted by cagar
Want to enjoy a game more? Don't make it a job. That's a problem some people are having. 60+ hours in a game that has not even been out a month is unbelievable. Go live life, enjoy being outside. Play when the weathers bad or for an hour or 3 once and awhile. You won't burn out inside a month, and be bored waiting on the next best thing.

Then don't charge me a sub fee to play it for only an hour or 3 once in a while. That is a waste of money IMO.

Originally posted by Sector13

Originally posted by cagar
Want to enjoy a game more? Don't make it a job. That's a problem some people are having. 60+ hours in a game that has not even been out a month is unbelievable. Go live life, enjoy being outside. Play when the weathers bad or for an hour or 3 once and awhile. You won't burn out inside a month, and be bored waiting on the next best thing.

Then don't charge me a sub fee to play it for only an hour or 3 once in a while. That is a waste of money IMO.

you pay 15 dollar for a 2hr movie -.- your cable cost you probably hella lot more than 15 dollar a month and you don't watch TV like its your fcking job either. You don't see anyone complaining about their cost, so why the fck do people constantly complain about mmorpgs? Serously even a fcking single player game last you maybe 60hrs really depend on the game and those cost like 60 bucks while mmorpg even if you play 2hr a day is 60 hrs for 15 dollar.....

Originally posted by rexzshadow

Originally posted by Sector13

Originally posted by cagar
Want to enjoy a game more? Don't make it a job. That's a problem some people are having. 60+ hours in a game that has not even been out a month is unbelievable. Go live life, enjoy being outside. Play when the weathers bad or for an hour or 3 once and awhile. You won't burn out inside a month, and be bored waiting on the next best thing.

Then don't charge me a sub fee to play it for only an hour or 3 once in a while. That is a waste of money IMO.

you pay 15 dollar for a 2hr movie -.- your cable cost you probably hella lot more than 15 dollar a month and you don't watch TV like its your fcking job either. You don't see anyone complaining about their cost, so why the fck do people constantly complain about mmorpgs? Serously even a fcking single player game last you maybe 60hrs really depend on the game and those cost like 60 bucks while mmorpg even if you play 2hr a day is 60 hrs for 15 dollar.....

Becuase monthly fees used to exist only because MMOs needed huge servers to handle the persistent world and massive amount of people playing together. No, everything is instanced and you rarely see more than 40 players on screen.

Originally posted by rexzshadow

Originally posted by Sector13

Originally posted by cagar
Want to enjoy a game more? Don't make it a job. That's a problem some people are having. 60+ hours in a game that has not even been out a month is unbelievable. Go live life, enjoy being outside. Play when the weathers bad or for an hour or 3 once and awhile. You won't burn out inside a month, and be bored waiting on the next best thing.

Then don't charge me a sub fee to play it for only an hour or 3 once in a while. That is a waste of money IMO.

you pay 15 dollar for a 2hr movie -.- your cable cost you probably hella lot more than 15 dollar a month and you don't watch TV like its your fcking job either. You don't see anyone complaining about their cost, so why the fck do people constantly complain about mmorpgs? Serously even a fcking single player game last you maybe 60hrs really depend on the game and those cost like 60 bucks while mmorpg even if you play 2hr a day is 60 hrs for 15 dollar.....

Well, for one thing, I don't go to movies cause I can rent them much cheaper. Also, I don't watch TV since I can watch any show I want online for free. Not my fault that you can't think beyond the fact that not all of us throw our money just cause you do. Lastly, before you even manage to think of it, I don't pay for my internet either. Seriously, learn to think before acting like a child next time cause you can't think beyond a simple concept that not everyone wastes money like you do.

Hopefully, GW2 will prove that P2P is not needed and show that it's an outdated concept. We have tons of console and PC games that have online capabilties that don't cost us more money on top of box fee, yet, MMORPGs can't seem to get past this concept cause they know they can get away with it, especially when they don't deserve it.

$15 really isn't a huge deal if your playing a few hours a week. I personally do not mind paying the $15 a month even if the game goes f2p w the option of a sub. I will still sub. $15 is nothing to play a MMO. If you walked into an arcade to play those games $15 bucks will be gone in less than an hour. So $15 is a bargain in MMO terms. To each his own.