What i meant was even if those other Thousand of players on your Server doesn't do WvWvW, you will become a well known player just from word of mouth.

It will be like on the 4th weeks of just pveing and avoiding WvWvW, you see that you have gotten an bonus, you asked how your server is doing in WvWvW, and someone in general posted that So and So are defending the castle, and that we will have the whole map in a matter of days because of So and So is on the helm. Or This Guild is doing great pushing Red and Blue team back even when they teamed up.

You are building an Reputation not just in WvWvW, but the whole server.

Originally posted by Lucioon

What i meant was even if those other Thousand of players on your Server doesn't do WvWvW, you will become a well known player just from word of mouth.

It will be like on the 4th weeks of just pveing and avoiding WvWvW, you see that you have gotten an bonus, you asked how your server is doing in WvWvW, and someone in general posted that So and So are defending the castle, and that we will have the whole map in a matter of days because of So and So is on the helm. Or This Guild is doing great pushing Red and Blue team back even when they teamed up.

You are building an Reputation not just in WvWvW, but the whole server.

 

Oh ok and yea I misread, well yea in that case all points are valid.

For those fairly new to GW1 such as myself, here is a list of viable build's in GW1 for just 1 class (and these are just the more viable ones)

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Build:E/  60 + builds for 1 class.

... because they made teletubbies a playable race.

Originally posted by Creslin321

 Before you conclude that GW2's combat isn't anything special, watch this video: 

http://youtu.be/RR0-S9SQCW4

It is a skilled player that shows GW2's combat how it's probably really meant to be played.  If, after watching this video, you still feel that GW2's combat isn't anything special, then that's fine.  But I think you should do yourself the favor of checking that video out just to see what everyone is talking about ;).

Wow that does look awesome. Kind of want to play a Warrior now... Warrior or Guardian.

Love the flying/leaping/smashing/stabbing/slashing fun of the Sword + Shield combo for both Guardian and Warrior.

Originally posted by BadSpock

Originally posted by Creslin321

 Before you conclude that GW2's combat isn't anything special, watch this video: 

http://youtu.be/RR0-S9SQCW4

It is a skilled player that shows GW2's combat how it's probably really meant to be played.  If, after watching this video, you still feel that GW2's combat isn't anything special, then that's fine.  But I think you should do yourself the favor of checking that video out just to see what everyone is talking about ;).

Wow that does look awesome. Kind of want to play a Warrior now... Warrior or Guardian.

Love the flying/leaping/smashing/stabbing/slashing fun of the Sword + Shield combo for both Guardian and Warrior.

Yes, I agree. The combat moves are awsome, the combat overall looks very smooth.

Another thing I really like about GW2 combat is the animations, they aren't too flashy or too large. Seems like many games today, especially the asian grinders, keep building the combat animations bigger and bigger, and brighter and brighter, it becomes a distraction, to me anyway.

And of course it helps with lag, which is the main concern for any large scale pvp game.

Originally posted by Adalwulff

Originally posted by BadSpock

Originally posted by Creslin321

 Before you conclude that GW2's combat isn't anything special, watch this video: 

http://youtu.be/RR0-S9SQCW4

It is a skilled player that shows GW2's combat how it's probably really meant to be played.  If, after watching this video, you still feel that GW2's combat isn't anything special, then that's fine.  But I think you should do yourself the favor of checking that video out just to see what everyone is talking about ;).

Wow that does look awesome. Kind of want to play a Warrior now... Warrior or Guardian.

Love the flying/leaping/smashing/stabbing/slashing fun of the Sword + Shield combo for both Guardian and Warrior.

Yes, I agree. The combat moves are awsome, the combat overall looks very smooth.

Another thing I really like about GW2 combat is the animations, they aren't too flashy or too large. Seems like many games today, especially the asian grinders, keep building the combat animations bigger and bigger, and brighter and brighter, it becomes a distraction, to me anyway.

And of course it helps with lag, which is the main concern for any large scale pvp game.

To be fair, there are some very over the top particle effects and such with certain professions and profession combos in larger group settings that I hope they tone down before launch.

This video features a warrior, which is not at all flashy really due to the physical nature of their abilities instead of magical.

Apparently putting an Elementalist, Necromancer, Guardian, and Mesmer in the same area attacking the same target makes for quite the over-the-top crazy seizure inducing light show.

Originally posted by Anubisan

Originally posted by Volkon

Originally posted by Anubisan

Originally posted by Thorbrand

I will play it but probably won't care.

1. All DPS zerg combat, can we say boring!

2. Dumbed down PvE. Anyone tried running dungeon's with full DPS group in other games?

3. No Healer cllass = no PvP tactical combat.

4. Limited skill options.

5. Only two weeks for fight the other servers before rotation. No build a rep for real not some stupid status.

I agree with all of these, but I would also add three more:

6. No raids. I actually really like raiding. It is challenging and engaging if the content is actually difficult. I don't like it when games rely ENTIRELY on raiding for end game, but not having it at all kind of sucks.

7. No seamless world. This always bugs me in MMOs and it sounds like GW2 will be very segmented and highly instanced.

8. TIRED OF FANTASY.

Raid challenging? Really? You can't be serious. There's no real challenge to a raid, especially in a WoW-like game. All you do is follow a script, and that script is one that Blizzard gives out before they even release the raid. It's nothing more than who can get a group of guys to follow the same script together... and people fail even that simple task far too often.

Challenging my arse. You want to see challenging? Have WoW release those raids live and not tell anyone how to do it. Let people experiment and figure them out for themselves.

Of course... your typial "raider" couldn't handle the challenge.

Umm... yes. Raiding can be very challenging. AND rewarding. I remember trying to tackle some of the vanilla WoW raids like Naxxramas back in the day. They were extremely difficult and we did have to figure things out as we went. I agree that raids in WoW have become easy mode these days, but I said "if the content is actually difficult".

Raids can be a lot of fun and so can things like dedicated tanking/healing. The fact that this game won't have anything for those players will be to its detriment I think.

Heh... rewarding.

Did the piece of gear I need drop? No? crap.

Did the piece of gear I need drop? FINALLY! Oops... the hunter won the roll. >.<

Originally posted by Volkon

Originally posted by Inf666

Since my priority is PvP and Tera has better combat I will be prioritizing it.

If I get bored or want a timeout I will most likely try out guild wars 2 for the PvE.

Don't know how good GW2 really is but it is definately not as good as the hype suggests (no game in existence has ever been). Only a play test can tell.

 

I admit the combat in Tera sounds intriguing, however the fact that skills root you in place leaves a foul taste in my mouth. By comparison, GW2 allows you to cast and shoot while actually moving, with very few skills having a rooting action. GW2 simply sounds like a more active, dynamic combat system to me personally.

GW2 doesnt have aiming. I do not consider that an 'active, dynamic combat system' but just the usual old system.

As for the self-root: Sure, it breaks the movement, BUT it makes the fight far more tactical. You need more skill to be able to participate well since you need to plan ahead. No more chaotic running around and spamming whatever is not on cooldown. Use a skill at the wrong place and the wrong time? You stop moving and get a crit to the face. Self roots are also needed as a limiter for ranged chars or chars with a lot of escape skills.

Tell me: How would you otherwise stop a char that has 3 escapes (Teleport, dodge, jump) and can cast everything while running away? Oh, lots of CC? Now thats a fun game...

The thing I'm least looking forward to (this is true about any new mmo release) is that the chat will be filled with children droning on and on about WoW.  "I hurd WoW waz the first MMO! lolololol!"  and "Well this is so much better than WoW, let's talk about WoW for the next 5 hours and 37 minutes until I log off!"

You'd think people are obssessed with WoW even when they're not playing it. Just stfu and play the new game already! It seems the only place you can go to not hear about WoW is . . . WoW.  And yes, the WoW spam is worse than any other type of spam, because it's useless and only serves to keep WoW fresh in everyone's mind all the time.

And this hasn't been isolated to one particular game, it's every game that's launched for the last 5-6 years, ffs.

Originally posted by HoskTheCub

... because they made teletubbies a playable race.

 

You mean this?

Most fps seem to do fine without rooting...

But as someone fairly familiar with netcode, I know that rooting is a lot easier to code for.

As for GW2 vs Tera, they are two very different games to be sure, but all reports have said pvp in gw2 is amazing. Not just the combat system, but how everything works together, and the balance. I don't know if tera will be able to pull that off, even with slightly more active combat.

Oh I will be playing Guild Wars 2 all they way up to the point when ArcheAge releases in the West. ^_^

Originally posted by Ishoa

 

I really get the sense of excitement from Arena Net about this game. Listening and seeing the sheer utter enjoyment the ANet team gets from just talking about Guild Wars 2. This isn’t something you see all the time from game developers and it just shows how much they love this game and the dedication they have towards it. I for one cannot wait to get my own access to beta because I can feel the excitement for this game and all the hard work the developers have put into it. 

The last game that I played where I saw that the devs were TRUELY excited about the game they were releasing and proud of it, was TES V: Skyrim. 

I love that game.

That fact gives me very high hopes that loving what you are making will produce a superior product. ArenaNet is really proud of Guild Wars 2, just like Bethesda was of Skyrim. That fact alone would make me interested in GW2. But there are many, many, many reasons to love it if you've done your homework. And I have.

Originally posted by Ikonis
Because I will be playing Planetside 2; a game that is truly breaking the mold and is not the same old stuff under some hyped window dressing.

I think if you are going to accuse GW2 of being the same old stuff under some hyped window dressing, you should provide details of how it's similar to current mmos out there like TOR and WoW.

If you're not going to do that, then you're basically just trolling.

Where did this terrible thread come from? Did they move it from General? Please just kill this abomination.

The only reasons I'm seeing are one of "I didn't like GW1 and have assumed this is the same game," "It's not a FFA PvP full loot sandbox gankfest where you can build houses on every square inch of terrain," or "I am terrified to play a game that doesn't use the same game mechanics as WoW," with the occasional "I don't actually have time for it." (EDIT: I forgot "I don't know anything about this game and assumed it is a WoW clone.")

If this goes on for another 12 pages it'll be the same as the first 12. It's a loaded question. "Why don't you like X?" will always be followed by people who have no reason to like X. Every time you reply to one person, another will chime in why that reason isn't good enough. "It's different from WoW," will be followed by both "It's too different," and "It's not different enough."

"Why don't you like broccoli?"
"I don't like the taste."
"But it tastes good."

That could go on for pages, too.

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Originally posted by Shroom_Mage
Where did this terrible thread come from? Did they move it from General? Please just kill this abomination.

The only reasons I'm seeing are one of "I didn't like GW1 and have assumed this is the same game," "It's not a FFA PvP full loot sandbox gankfest where you can build houses on every square inch of terrain," or "I am terrified to play a game that doesn't use the same game mechanics as WoW," with the occasional "I don't actually have time for it." (EDIT: I forgot "I don't know anything about this game and assumed it is a WoW clone.")

If this goes on for another 12 pages it'll be the same as the first 12. It's a loaded question. "Why don't you like X?" will always be followed by people who have no reason to like X. Every time you reply to one person, another will chime in why that reason isn't good enough. "It's different from WoW," will be followed by both "It's too different," and "It's not different enough."

"Why don't you like broccoli?"
"I don't like the taste."
"But it tastes good."

That could go on for pages, too.

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man this thread has grown since last night.

Is there any good discussion goin on or is it the same ol' "I want to tell the world Im too good to play Gw2!" crowd?

Originally posted by Shroom_Mage

Where did this terrible thread come from? Did they move it from General? Please just kill this abomination.

The only reasons I'm seeing are one of "I didn't like GW1 and have assumed this is the same game," "It's not a FFA PvP full loot sandbox gankfest where you can build houses on every square inch of terrain," or "I am terrified to play a game that doesn't use the same game mechanics as WoW," with the occasional "I don't actually have time for it." (EDIT: I forgot "I don't know anything about this game and assumed it is a WoW clone.")

If this goes on for another 12 pages it'll be the same as the first 12. It's a loaded question. "Why don't you like X?" will always be followed by people who have no reason to like X. Every time you reply to one person, another will chime in why that reason isn't good enough. "It's different from WoW," will be followed by both "It's too different," and "It's not different enough."

"Why don't you like broccoli?"
"I don't like the taste."
"But it tastes good."

That could go on for pages, too.

I second this motion

I have got 2 warnings over this last week, for something nowhere near as vile as this thread. The moderators are not very consistant.

This thread should have been locked pages ago.