I'm sick of people creating threads to whine that there aren't any good sandbox games out there.  Which is completely absurd, as I've played several.  And I haven't played EVE, so it's hardly the only good sandbox game out there.

Now, different games will appeal to different people.  So I'm not saying that a sandbox fan should like all of the sandbox games out there; some games really are just terrible games, or simply not what you're after.  I can also understand if you've played a couple sandbox games and liked them, but eventually got tired of them, and only want to complain that there aren't enough good sandbox games.

But I don't have any sympathy for people who can't find a single sandbox game that they like, and want to whine loudly about it.  Even if they think they're sandbox fans, they're not.

as someone whos played Eve, Darkfall, Xsyon, FE, dawntide, swg, and a few others i cannot think of at the moment...please tell me what sandbox games youve liked. I loved SWG and somewhat liked FE. hated the rest.

Currently playing Wurm. Best sandbox ever.

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Having just come from a resub of 5 months to Darkfall I can say EVE is the only good option for Sandbox fans. Yes that is my opinion and no I don't think my opinion is worth more than yours. I am aware there are more options out there for sandy boxing.

As far as a well developed MMO with thousands of people all playing in one place, EVE has the rest beat by a mile. Unfortunately quality matters.

Originally posted by NaughtyP

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You're not a sandbox fan is a "bash" where you're from, eh?

The problem with the debate over sandboxes is that there is no clear definition over what a "sandbox" actually is. Some people believe all a sandbox game has to have is an open environment and a player-run economy, with a decent variety of tools to interact with other players. Others want the genre to give players the ability to morph the environment to their will, create complex governments and add custom content to the game beyond the developers' control. I'd say the second group needs to lower their standards a bit, because that kind of interactivity simply is not possible with the level of graphical quality we expect out of MMOs these days. They want something like a universal Minecraft with the graphics of Skyrim when reality looks more like Grand Theft Auto with the graphics of The Sims. I'm afraid that unless technology manages to improve dramatically they will remain disappointed.

When there's a modern MMO version of minecraft is the day I stop dreaming about a better sandbox. Can't stand Wurm. Takes a century to perform any action, graphics are crap, combat is crap.

Originally posted by Axehilt

Originally posted by NaughtyP

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You're not a sandbox fan is a "bash" where you're from, eh?

I thought I was a sandbox fan. OP just made me feel like a terrible person instead. What can I say, I'm as fragile as a package marked... frágil.

  To be fair, I think people are just waiting for a sandbox of similar quality to a major AAA title. Eve is a excellent game. Its definitely a sandbox. My issue is, I havent found one which fits the setting and graphical quality I am looking for. Although Archage sure looks like it mite fit my desires. 

'Good' is a subjective term

So because I can't find any decent restaurants, I'm not a fan of food?

What?

Originally posted by NaughtyP

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  Not only is this the 'internet', it's also MMORPG....expect pretentiousness ;P

Eve is the best sandbox out there and in my opinion the best mmo period.

After that the quality of choices falls off a cliff.

Originally posted by NaughtyP

Originally posted by Axehilt

Originally posted by NaughtyP

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You're not a sandbox fan is a "bash" where you're from, eh?

I thought I was a sandbox fan. OP just made me feel like a terrible person instead. What can I say, I'm as fragile as a package marked... frágil.

So you consider yourself a sandbox fan who doesn't like any sandbox games?

How does that work?

 I get what Quiz is mad though. With so many supposed sandboxes out there it can appear were being picky or selfish. That being said he needs to respect the fact so many people havent found the one they desire or the setting.

Everyone deserves fair representation in the mmorpg genre. Its what we all what after all. To have something we fit into. Ok deserve mite be a strong word. After all there are some genre styles which arent feasible.

Originally posted by Axehilt

Originally posted by NaughtyP

Originally posted by Axehilt

Originally posted by NaughtyP

Yay, someone bashing me without knowing me at all. My lucky day!

You're not a sandbox fan is a "bash" where you're from, eh?

I thought I was a sandbox fan. OP just made me feel like a terrible person instead. What can I say, I'm as fragile as a package marked... frágil.

So you consider yourself a sandbox fan who doesn't like any sandbox games?

How does that work?

I don't like any current sandbox games (that I have tried). I am signed up for beta/forums/newsletters on a few newer ones being made. I hope I will enjoy them if/when they hit the shelves.

Does that work or should I make a powerpoint presentation? (protip: I like the animations and transitions!)

I got kicked out of my sandbox on Dec 15th. I'm messing with themeparks atm. If I get the itch, I'll try out UWO.

Face it you're all shiny graphics fans. You don't care about good gameplay or you'd still be playing the proven Sandboxes.

I liked one of these sandboxes for a time, SWG, quite some time ago though...not sure how a game getting destroyed and then shut down fits into this...