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  bloodbone

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Joined: 2/06/10
Posts: 117

After the game,
the king and the pawn go into the same box.

 
2/27/12 3:17:01 PM#1
Hey all,
 
Didnt see this in our forums anywhere.  Looks like SWTOR is listening to the player base and making a LFG tool.  I still play and and given my servers sparce player base... its a very welcome change! 
 
To those who say it will ruin the community ... my reponse is that I dont think "community" was ever meant to be huge in this game and I certainly have not experenced a strong sense of community to date.... just my impressions though, I still enjoy the game.  
 
  Wickedjelly

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Joined: 4/19/09
Posts: 5062

The Dude abides

2/27/12 3:20:57 PM#2

They posted the same thing weeks ago in the forums themselves in one of the umpteen lfg threads. Not knocking you just a bit surprised that the article is so new. If you can find the post it was pretty interesting to see what he had to say.

Although if this is supposedly a fresh interview that isn't real promising because it sounds like they haven't made much progress from when the BW rep spoke about it then. Actually fnd that rather disappointing really.

To be honest he was even a bit more detailed than what he told that writer in his forum post. kind of odd really.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  GMan3

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Joined: 8/27/10
Posts: 2239

2/27/12 3:20:59 PM#3

    It is my personal experience that a cross server LFG tool does ruin community in every MMO I have played that had one, but I will wait until we have more information/actually try it to make my decision.  Some games have done this better than others after all.

"If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"

  Wickedjelly

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The Dude abides

2/27/12 3:23:37 PM#4
Originally posted by GMan3

    It is my personal experience that a cross server LFG tool does ruin community in every MMO I have played that had one, but I will wait until we have more information/actually try it to make my decision.  Some games have done this better than others after all.

Unless they changed their tune it was already confirmed it won't be cross server. He specifically commented on that in the forum post I'm referring to.

Although you know how that goes.

 

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  GMan3

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Joined: 8/27/10
Posts: 2239

2/27/12 3:26:40 PM#5
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by GMan3

    It is my personal experience that a cross server LFG tool does ruin community in every MMO I have played that had one, but I will wait until we have more information/actually try it to make my decision.  Some games have done this better than others after all.

Unless they changed their tune it was already confirmed it won't be cross server. He specifically commented on that in the forum post I'm referring to.

Although you know how that goes. 

    Thanks for trying to inform me, but I already read the post when it first came out.  I was specifically talking to the OP's comment on community and stating my personal experience with the issue.

"If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"

  MMOarQQ

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"Against stupidity the very gods themselves contend in vain."

2/27/12 3:27:21 PM#6

Nice. Maybe you guys'll get a decent UI and mods by 2016.

  Ghabbo

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Joined: 9/02/11
Posts: 101

2/27/12 3:28:04 PM#7
Originally posted by bloodbone
Hey all,
 
Didnt see this in our forums anywhere.  Looks like SWTOR is listening to the player base and making a LFG tool.  I still play and and given my servers sparce player base... its a very welcome change! 
 
To those who say it will ruin the community ... my reponse is that I dont think "community" was ever meant to be huge in this game and I certainly have not experenced a strong sense of community to date.... just my impressions though, I still enjoy the game.  
 

 

For me it was an unimplemented feature... I just don't think they are listening to the player base.  Nevertheless, I'm happy for those that play swtor 

 

  Wickedjelly

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The Dude abides

2/27/12 3:29:01 PM#8

Lol...some people are so defensive around here. Keke

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  bloodbone

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Joined: 2/06/10
Posts: 117

After the game,
the king and the pawn go into the same box.

 
2/27/12 3:33:25 PM#9
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by GMan3

    It is my personal experience that a cross server LFG tool does ruin community in every MMO I have played that had one, but I will wait until we have more information/actually try it to make my decision.  Some games have done this better than others after all.

Unless they changed their tune it was already confirmed it won't be cross server. He specifically commented on that in the forum post I'm referring to.

Although you know how that goes.

 

As I said in my inital post my server doesn't seem to have much "commuinty" anyways so the cross server thing is not a big issue to me.  That being said I see no reason not to keep servers specific in LFG.  The hold up in other games with this tool "e.g WoW" is tanks and healers not that there is a shortagage of players wanting to run the instance.

I think a single server LFG tool will only be a problem for people wanting to run less popular instances at odd times.   

  Wickedjelly

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Posts: 5062

The Dude abides

2/27/12 3:38:07 PM#10
Originally posted by bloodbone

As I said in my inital post my server doesn't seem to have much "commuinty" anyways so the cross server thing is not a big issue to me.  That being said I see no reason not to keep servers specific in LFG.  The hold up in other games with this tool "e.g WoW" is tanks and healers not that there is a shortagage of players wanting to run the instance.

I think a single server LFG tool will only be a problem for people wanting to run less popular instances at odd times.   

My question is will it be a feature that helps with all group oriented content or simply fps? Would be nice if it was a useful tool for all of them.

Kind of seemed that was the way he was hinting to although this was a number of weeks ago so things could have changed. Single server would be nice probably for a lot of folks.Something like DDO has would be really great or at least a major upgrade compared to what they have currently.

You know...like something people want to actually freaking use...

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  BarCrow

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Joined: 2/25/07
Posts: 2017

2/27/12 3:50:29 PM#11

Sorry..not enough to make me resub!!!. ...Oh wait....I never unsubbed and never had much of an issue finding a group. Nevermind.

  SignusM

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Joined: 5/07/06
Posts: 2279

2/27/12 3:51:30 PM#12

Now that there's a LFG tool can we stop calling this game an MMO? It's pretty pathetic at this point, and a disservice to all games that are ACTUALLY MMOs.

  Laughing-man

Hard Core Member

Joined: 4/23/09
Posts: 2660

I thought what I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those Deaf-mutes.

2/27/12 3:52:25 PM#13

"We are hard at work on a much more robust LFG functionality that will quickly help put groups together while still offering the flexibility to decide how you group and what sort of people you want to be grouped with,"   -Bioware

DOES NOT MEAN LFG DUNGEON FINDER!

 

It might just be a LFG where you can say "I am looking for Kaon under siege" and you can find other people looking for that as well.

You are reading too much into what they said, I myself was hoping for dungeon finder, however, this just tripe.

  Wickedjelly

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/19/09
Posts: 5062

The Dude abides

2/27/12 3:53:42 PM#14
Originally posted by SignusM

Now that there's a LFG tool can we stop calling this game an MMO? It's pretty pathetic at this point, and a disservice to all games that are ACTUALLY MMOs.

What are you talking about now? They always did have one. The current one just simply sucks.

...and how is that anyways considering most games have some type of lfg tool? Or are you confusing LFG tools with LFD?

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  SignusM

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Joined: 5/07/06
Posts: 2279

2/27/12 3:54:52 PM#15
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by SignusM

Now that there's a LFG tool can we stop calling this game an MMO? It's pretty pathetic at this point, and a disservice to all games that are ACTUALLY MMOs.

What are you talking about now? They always did have one. The current one just simply sucks.

...and how is that anyways considering most games have some type of lfg tool? Or are you confusing LFG tools with LFD?

I assumed they were adding a WoW style dungeon finder, which is an abomination.

  bloodbone

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Joined: 2/06/10
Posts: 117

After the game,
the king and the pawn go into the same box.

 
2/27/12 3:56:15 PM#16
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by bloodbone

As I said in my inital post my server doesn't seem to have much "commuinty" anyways so the cross server thing is not a big issue to me.  That being said I see no reason not to keep servers specific in LFG.  The hold up in other games with this tool "e.g WoW" is tanks and healers not that there is a shortagage of players wanting to run the instance.

I think a single server LFG tool will only be a problem for people wanting to run less popular instances at odd times.   

My question is will it be a feature that helps with all group oriented content or simply fps? Would be nice if it was a useful tool for all of them.

Kind of seemed that was the way he was hinting to although this was a number of weeks ago so things could have changed. Single server would be nice probably for a lot of folks.Something like DDO has would be really great or at least a major upgrade compared to what they have currently.

Thats a great point, it would be nice is the tool allows for focused group content in specific zones.  You would have to do this in a clever manner as the specific group quests are vast in number - and a wowesque LFG tool would be far to diluted in my opinon if every single group quest was available for individual sign up

 

  BadSpock

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Logic be damned!

2/27/12 3:58:43 PM#17

Maybe next they'll roll out dual specs!

I mean seriously Bioware - there is a big difference between "trying to be different" and not including many of the quality of life improvements that have been made in MMOs over the years.

Like, in WoW I am still waiting for them to implement area looting - get on it Blizzard.

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  Laughing-man

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I thought what I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those Deaf-mutes.

2/27/12 3:59:55 PM#18
Originally posted by SignusM

I assumed they were adding a WoW style dungeon finder, which is an abomination.

Why would it need one?  All the instances are on the space station, its not like its HARD to get to any of them, or like it takes longer than 2 seconds to zone from one to the other.

Ilum being the only exception.

A LFD finder WoW type thing would pretty much not change SWTOR at all from where it is now when it comes to immersion

  Quesa

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2/27/12 4:00:32 PM#19
Originally posted by BadSpock

Maybe next they'll roll out dual specs!

I mean seriously Bioware - there is a big difference between "trying to be different" and not including many of the quality of life improvements that have been made in MMOs over the years.

Like, in WoW I am still waiting for them to implement area looting - get on it Blizzard.

Exactly.  The game should have been released with all the changes they are slating for the future. 

  Laughing-man

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Joined: 4/23/09
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I thought what I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those Deaf-mutes.

2/27/12 4:01:01 PM#20
Originally posted by BadSpock

Maybe next they'll roll out dual specs!

I mean seriously Bioware - there is a big difference between "trying to be different" and not including many of the quality of life improvements that have been made in MMOs over the years.

Like, in WoW I am still waiting for them to implement area looting - get on it Blizzard.

http://www.swtor.com/blog/community-qa-feb-10th-2012

Dual specs are in the works.

Have been for a while they claim.

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