Originally posted by username509

 

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Originally posted by Betel

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Originally posted by username509

Mortal online has improved dramatically since beta.
In what ways, specifically?
 
 Sync issues have been ironed out.  
Then why is it still top of the players "fix this now" list?
http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/72569-will-prediction-navmesh-fixed-awakening.html
 
Little annoying bugs have been fixed.  
Such as? There are bugs from beta in there, and severe (as in player or server crashing) bugs that have been around for months.
 
The population now is higher than it was a year ago.  
Completely untrue and you know it. SV's financial results and even the absurd metric the supporters of MO use (transaction numbers) all show a low population that is only getting lower.
 
You can always try the free trial if your not sure.  
Should try a free trial even if you think you are sure, the trial retention rate is so low for a reason.
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Mortal is really the best sandbox out there.  
It is a terrible game that will enhance the sandbox genre ony by closing. There are many, many sandbox games out there that are far better than the dross that is MO.
 

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Betel
 
You have no idea what the trial rention rate is for Mortal Online.  It has never been released.  The only clues we have are the stated increase in licenses and subscription starvault released a few weeks ago.  

 

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SV financial statements report on how much or how little profit they made. If you want a more accurate picture of how many players are in Nave you should read this newer statement made by SV.

New Player SURGE!

I cant read that its in Klingonian...

Originally posted by argirop

Originally posted by username509

 

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Originally posted by Betel

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Originally posted by username509

Mortal online has improved dramatically since beta.
In what ways, specifically?
 
 Sync issues have been ironed out.  
Then why is it still top of the players "fix this now" list?
http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/72569-will-prediction-navmesh-fixed-awakening.html
 
Little annoying bugs have been fixed.  
Such as? There are bugs from beta in there, and severe (as in player or server crashing) bugs that have been around for months.
 
The population now is higher than it was a year ago.  
Completely untrue and you know it. SV's financial results and even the absurd metric the supporters of MO use (transaction numbers) all show a low population that is only getting lower.
 
You can always try the free trial if your not sure.  
Should try a free trial even if you think you are sure, the trial retention rate is so low for a reason.
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Mortal is really the best sandbox out there.  
It is a terrible game that will enhance the sandbox genre ony by closing. There are many, many sandbox games out there that are far better than the dross that is MO.
 

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Betel
 
You have no idea what the trial rention rate is for Mortal Online.  It has never been released.  The only clues we have are the stated increase in licenses and subscription starvault released a few weeks ago.  

 

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SV financial statements report on how much or how little profit they made. If you want a more accurate picture of how many players are in Nave you should read this newer statement made by SV.

New Player SURGE!

I cant read that its in Klingonian...

They state that there is increased rention rate in MO, sadly, their financial report speaks other.

Tbh i m not sure what rention rate is but whatever that is its higher in comparison with what? Nvm i just noticed that Henrik signs that so whatever it is has a 99,9% chance to be BS.

 I did a trial account though and there was a lot of movement in Fabernum and Meduli- i cba to check other towns/ villages. Mostly nacked chars and afk people macroing. It was way better  than 40-50 days ago but lag inside towns and low fps was unbearable. Cant say if all those people where trial accounts ofc but i guess its an improvement instead of 0-5 players to see 20-30 in major towns. I wonder whats gonna happen after awakening patch and if they gonna optimizre the game not to act like a slideshow when there are more than 20 people in an area.

Originally posted by argirop

Tbh i m not sure what rention rate is but whatever that is its higher in comparison with what? Nvm i just noticed that Henrik signs that so whatever it is has a 99,9% chance to be BS.

 I did a trial account though and there was a lot of movement in Fabernum and Meduli- i cba to check other towns/ villages. Mostly nacked chars and afk people macroing. It was way better  than 40-50 days ago but lag inside towns and low fps was unbearable. Cant say if all those people where trial accounts ofc but i guess its an improvement instead of 0-5 players to see 20-30 in major towns. I wonder whats gonna happen after awakening patch and if they gonna optimizre the game not to act like a slideshow when there are more than 20 people in an area.

Yes, it's going to be a slideshow when you play with a pentium 4 and 2 gigs of ram.  For the majority of us we can play Mortal Online just fine.  

Originally posted by username509

Originally posted by argirop

Tbh i m not sure what rention rate is but whatever that is its higher in comparison with what? Nvm i just noticed that Henrik signs that so whatever it is has a 99,9% chance to be BS.

 I did a trial account though and there was a lot of movement in Fabernum and Meduli- i cba to check other towns/ villages. Mostly nacked chars and afk people macroing. It was way better  than 40-50 days ago but lag inside towns and low fps was unbearable. Cant say if all those people where trial accounts ofc but i guess its an improvement instead of 0-5 players to see 20-30 in major towns. I wonder whats gonna happen after awakening patch and if they gonna optimizre the game not to act like a slideshow when there are more than 20 people in an area.

Yes, it's going to be a slideshow when you play with a pentium 4 and 2 gigs of ram.  For the majority of us we can play Mortal Online just fine.  

I m playing with an Amiga 500 cause my Commodore 64 is for service.

Even if your assuming for your own reasons that i have a crappy pc which i dont people are complaing about the issues you with your NASA pc fail to see or admit:

http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/72712-got-huge-lagg-same-lagg-max-low.html#post1278943

http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/70858-low-fps-high-low-settings.html

http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/70516-fps-lower-than-should.html

http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/70135-badly-fps-drop-night.html

Those are under the first 2 pages in MO forums/Public forums/Questions and answers. But i m almost convinced to totaly ignore them and believe you instead of the several people appart from OP's that posting in those threads that do have same issues. Tell me again who you are? Oh the guy who claims that MO has 20k active players or was it subscribers?

On a serious note to moderators: what do you expect for taking some action against trolls?

Originally posted by gotcha89

Hello mmo players,

Right now i'm downloading the client of Mortal Online. I'm searching for a great sandbox game. I tried darkfall online already but the world of darkfall seems so dead. Maybe i'm wrong but that is just how i feel. 

I already played the beta of mortal online but yeah what a bugs, what a bugs. So what can i accept now if i'm start playing? How is the world? How are the features? how are the people?

When i first start playing Mortal Online it was a hard way to find out what to do. how to craft? how to cathingering etc? Is it now easier to understand how the game needs to be played?

As you can see a lot of questions so maybe you guys can help me out. I'm really sorry for my bad english, so i hope you guys can understand.

 

Gotcha

http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/72686-conclusion-gk-siege.html

You can expect bugs of all shapes and sizes in every aspect of MO. From account issues, to unwarranted bannings due to bugs in GM tools, to entire cities being deleted, to well....... you get the idea.

Other than that you can expect a small comunity that is continually shrinking but is encouraged to say otherwise on forums like this one.

You can expect to do a lot of your discussion on MO here if you have issues due to the mentality of the fans and the moderators over on the official forums.

You can expect a lot of unfulfilled promises considering many promises made even back in beta have yet to see the light of day.

My advice is to do the free trial before resubbing.

You can expect a WORK IN PROGRESS, that's charged as AAA mmo, with very shady/questionable company running it.

Originally posted by username509

 

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Originally posted by Betel

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Originally posted by username509

Mortal online has improved dramatically since beta.
In what ways, specifically?
 
 Sync issues have been ironed out.  
Then why is it still top of the players "fix this now" list?
http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/72569-will-prediction-navmesh-fixed-awakening.html
 
Little annoying bugs have been fixed.  
Such as? There are bugs from beta in there, and severe (as in player or server crashing) bugs that have been around for months.
 
The population now is higher than it was a year ago.  
Completely untrue and you know it. SV's financial results and even the absurd metric the supporters of MO use (transaction numbers) all show a low population that is only getting lower.
 
You can always try the free trial if your not sure.  
Should try a free trial even if you think you are sure, the trial retention rate is so low for a reason.
[mod edit]
 
Mortal is really the best sandbox out there.  
It is a terrible game that will enhance the sandbox genre ony by closing. There are many, many sandbox games out there that are far better than the dross that is MO.
 

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Betel
 
You have no idea what the trial rention rate is for Mortal Online.  It has never been released.  The only clues we have are the stated increase in licenses and subscription starvault released a few weeks ago.  

 

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SV financial statements report on how much or how little profit they made. If you want a more accurate picture of how many players are in Nave you should read this newer statement made by SV.

New Player SURGE!

Because they don't post the retention rate it can safely be inferred that the value is low, and something they are not proud of, that's all most folks really need to know.

Statements from SV themselves have to be viewed in the light of the marketing spin they always are.

The solution is quiite simple, SV publishes the actual figures and no more debate.

But they won't be doing that any time soon I'm guessing.

Originally posted by username509

 

Yes, it's going to be a slideshow when you play with a pentium 4 and 2 gigs of ram.  For the majority of us we can play Mortal Online just fine.  

This guy just doesnt jump to conclusions based on no factual information whatsoever, but he leaps and bounds into pitfalls wearing rose tinted goggles for that extra bit of protection. Its just madness I tell you, its just MedulliMadness.

Good thing you are doing the trial, OP. Its compulsory to start with the trial if your post contains the words "new player" / "returning player" along with  "Mortal Online" in the same post.

Originally posted by argirop

 

On a serious note to moderators: what do you expect for taking some action against trolls?

 

Far as I have seen, a couple of mods here slap bans and delete posts (both of fanboy and anti-fanboy kind) from a NPOV stance. But there is one mod who goes ban-happy against posters with a critical view of MO. This post might get moderated as well but I CBF if someone moderates here with a vested interest, moderators are also human and prone to make mistakes after all.

ginally posted by mehoron

Why has this thread also DERAILED into another unsubstatiated rumor mill. Who the hell is actually MOD on this forum?

 

Hello, welcome to mmorpg.com forumspace for the game Mortal Online. Here you might find active discussions on various topics that branch out from the header the OP puts in his first post. But dont let those threads bring you mental anguish due to the fact that topics that go into discussion about active population that might support / hamper the new or returning player's experience does infact matter to the person who is interested in playing a "Massive"-MORPG. I do wonder if you would have had the same 'problem' if some poster started putting down claims of MO having 20k+ subs/players while painting an exaggerated picture of MMO goodness about Mortal Online, ie churning the rumour mill frrom the other direction. 

Originally posted by username509

 

Yes, it's going to be a slideshow when you play with a pentium 4 and 2 gigs of ram.  For the majority of us we can play Mortal Online just fine.  

It's a fact that MO is very badly optimized. I am having troubles with it on an alienware desktop, constant graphical artifacts and memory leaks.

Originally posted by Toferio

Originally posted by username509

 

Yes, it's going to be a slideshow when you play with a pentium 4 and 2 gigs of ram.  For the majority of us we can play Mortal Online just fine.  

It's a fact that MO is very badly optimized. I am having troubles with it on an alienware desktop, constant graphical artifacts and memory leaks.

 i agree, it is a fact that MO is badly optimised, its as badly optimised as darkfall is. maybe worse. Reality is trying to play MO with just 2gig of ram is not going to happen you need at least 4 since mo uses a rather constant 2gig on its own. I would recommend 6gig ram for MO and a quad core processor.

The game is certainly demanding, overly so in some areas and has issues with intel 6600 processors. But ram optimisations are coming with awakening and the game is supposly going to run smoother and on lower end machines after the expansion but we will see.

An I5 processor or above, 6gig ram and a modern graphics card and MO will run fine even in large battles.

Originally posted by RefMinor
https://account.mortalonline.com/content.php?name=information

 

Scroll to the bottom and it's just above the bit where star vault say fuck you.

LOL!!! I saw that.

O my goodness...im laughing my ass out in real life at the moment.

Thanks for pointing that out.

Originally posted by RefMinor
https://account.mortalonline.com/content.php?name=information

 

Scroll to the bottom and it's just above the bit where star vault say fuck you.

My bet is that security breach was from inside from someone who got all sort of details, passwords accounts, administrator acess in forums and who knows what else. Probably an unhappy employee or a no longer employee and my next bet is that he made more of those little surprises we are about to find out one by one in the future.

P.S. did you quoted yourself?

Originally posted by username509

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You have no idea what the trial rention rate is for Mortal Online.  It has never been released.  The only clues we have are the stated increase in licenses and subscription starvault released a few weeks ago.

We know for a fact that every quarter the population of MO falls lower (SV's own figures). We know from the official forum and this one that people are doing the trial accounts, so why are those people not still in game? Ergo the trial retention rate is very low.

The statement from SV a few weeks ago is meaningless and provided no real figures. If they sold 2 copies of the game in November, then selling 3 copies of the game in December is a 50% increase. It also takes no account of subs that were ended in that period - they may have lost 20 accounts in that time. The actual figures have shown a steady decline in population since the game launched and you have provided no evidence of a population rise despite your repeated claims over many months that it is rising.

Your last post as well as every other post you make about Mortal Online is derogatory and misleading.

Reported your post for attacking a forum member with zero evidence of your allegations.

SV financial statements report on how much or how little profit they made. If you want a more accurate picture of how many players are in Nave you should read this newer statement made by SV.

Wrong, SV's financial figures always mention the sale of copies of the game as well as subscriber trends. Those reports put both on a constant downward trend.

 

New Player SURGE!

You call 3 new subscribers while 90+ accounts are closed a surge? LOL

Please remain on topic and not veering off into separate discussions about retention, subs, financials, moderation, etc, as there are already other threads for most of those discussions. Please don't drag them  here.

Just found this video personally even though its been out several months. It shows alot of what mortal 'looks' like now. Pretty well done video too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a4FSjX-F60 

Originally posted by xDayx

Just found this video personally even though its been out several months. It shows alot of what mortal 'looks' like now. Pretty well done video too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a4FSjX-F60 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3LD9PUvKTk&feature=related

i think the above is a more accurate representation, since its of recent gameplay, of combat with a similar number of people that is commonplace.

Originally posted by gotcha89

Hello mmo players,

Right now i'm downloading the client of Mortal Online. I'm searching for a great sandbox game. I tried darkfall online already but the world of darkfall seems so dead. Maybe i'm wrong but that is just how i feel. 

I already played the beta of mortal online but yeah what a bugs, what a bugs. So what can i accept now if i'm start playing? How is the world? How are the features? how are the people?

When i first start playing Mortal Online it was a hard way to find out what to do. how to craft? how to cathingering etc? Is it now easier to understand how the game needs to be played?

As you can see a lot of questions so maybe you guys can help me out. I'm really sorry for my bad english, so i hope you guys can understand.

 

Gotcha

DF US  server better.

  in MO

40-50% use cheats or exploits. all MO one  big exploit,   buged prediction, textures ect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3LD9PUvKTk&feature=related

all video have high speed...why?? bcz  video at normal speed MO PVP  baldly.

Originally posted by Talonsin

Originally posted by realnaste

 
Firstly You can expect a lot of bugs. You will get stuck and will be forced to wait for a GM to respond to your call for help, mobs will do impossible things, like going through walls,  engaging turbo boost too hit you from behind in a split second, or just plainly going invisible(but still dealing damage).
You will also be killed, or griefed by many and in many ways.
You will fight a clunky GUI trying to figure out what's what, and how to do even the most basic of things.
From time to time You will be annoyed at the prediction if you pvp.
That and many more are the problems of MO.
Now. MO is far from a finished and polished product, but it does have a forum. If you want advice from people that actually know anything about the game, go there and ask.
This place is just full of trolls that usually bash the game basing on their experience from the beta or shortly after and irrelevant BS like the CEOs past.
Cheers
Disclaimer- I play MO and with all it's problems consider it the only fantasy mmorpg game on the market remotely worth paying for. I know I posted a lot that could be interpreted as proof that MO is not worth trying, but because those issues are now on a level far from gamebreaking, I do believe the complete opposite.
This game (with all it's shortcommings) offers a diversified experience like no other modern game of this genre making it the closest thing to a polished fantasy sandbox you'll get.

 

PS. yay...i can't believe I actually made an account on this forum... :/

Riddle me this batman...  What is far from polished but also polished? 

P.S. I'm so glad that you came to this forum and gave us the benefit of your superior intellect. 

His statements are not contradictary.  A game can still be unfinished/unpolished but because of the state of other like games available..still be the CLOSEST THING to a polished version.

Game runs pretty smooth on my PC. (3.4ghz Quad sandybridge..not remembering the actual model number...8 gigs ram windows 7 64 bit and  Gtx580.1680x1050 res) Settings maxed except i occasionally have to turn off DX10 because it  causes crash to desktop before log-in. I also leave AA off b/c it cause shiny red colors in the shadows. I just force aa from the Nvidia control panel and it works fine. At times it looks really nice..esp landscapes...but some models look terrible. Everyone looks dirty to me..lol...but thats the art direction it seems. It fits the world which can be very seedy and brutal.. I have some skips/lag very rarely...runs pretty well other than that and the aforemention bugs. Most of which are graphical that I've noticed. Horses riding a few feet off the ground..or sunk into the ground. Stuff like that.