Originally posted by fundayz

Originally posted by majin690

Yeah I may have used to word "dedicated" in the wrong way but that is what I meant , so if someone chooses to be only support aka heal then they can but at the same time everyone can switch between these roles on the fly and that is what he is saying- there is choice and no class is pidgeon holed instead a player chooses what he wants to do 

That's right. All classes can perform all roles to an extent but no class can perform any one role exclusively.

My argument still stands strong against Xzen's claim that there is dedicated roles in GW2 in the MMO (although it looks like he was misusing term as well).

Yeah. You just didn't understand what I was saying. Think you're arguing with me even though we agree. It happens from time to time.

You can't limit yourself to single role without severely reducing your effectiveness. You can be more of a supporter than the guy next to you, but you can't be doing only support stuff, nor can you eliminate the need for other players to heal themselves. Same goes for tanking (control).

Originally posted by Xzen

Yeah. You just didn't understand what I was saying. Think you're arguing with me even though we agree. It happens from time to time.

You'd be surprised how many people (at least until recently) seriously believe that GW2 has dedicated roles in the "and I heal, and I heal, and I heal" sense. After following the game for almost 3 years it has gotten to be a pet peeve of mine.

Anyway, back on topic: If you like keeping bars filled and doing nothing but healing then yes, avoid the game. If you like supporting your teamates through a multitude of ways while not being restricted to one role only then this is the game for you.

Originally posted by fundayz

Originally posted by Xzen

Yeah. You just didn't understand what I was saying. Think you're arguing with me even though we agree. It happens from time to time.

You'd be surprised how many people (at least until recently) seriously believe that GW2 has dedicated roles in the "and I heal, and I heal, and I heal" sense. After following the game for almost 3 years it has gotten to be a pet peeve of mine.

Anyway, back on topic: If you like keeping bars filled and doing nothing but healing then yes, avoid the game. If you like supporting your teamates through a multitude of ways while not being restricted to one role only then this is the game for you.

My only point is that if you like to heal the group this game has it. It's just going to take some learning because it's not cut and pasted from the typical mmo. You better learn how to use dodge and support and use other skills that will be available to you at the same time.

Originally posted by Xzen

Originally posted by fundayz

Originally posted by Xzen

Yeah. You just didn't understand what I was saying. Think you're arguing with me even though we agree. It happens from time to time.

You'd be surprised how many people (at least until recently) seriously believe that GW2 has dedicated roles in the "and I heal, and I heal, and I heal" sense. After following the game for almost 3 years it has gotten to be a pet peeve of mine.

Anyway, back on topic: If you like keeping bars filled and doing nothing but healing then yes, avoid the game. If you like supporting your teamates through a multitude of ways while not being restricted to one role only then this is the game for you.

My only point is that if you like to heal the group this game has it. It's just going to take some learning because it's not cut and pasted from the typical mmo. You better learn how to use dodge and support and use other skills that will be available to you at the same time.

For the love of god You've used the term "learn" - what were You thinking...we are not allowed to read not to mention think and learn god forbid imagine...

Originally posted by Monorojo

Ive been reading and it seems that healing is completely eliminated from the equation (besides self heals and intangible aoe heals that everyone gets. It kinda sounds like everyone is a dpser who has the ability to dodge and heal.

 

So instead of the holy trinity, everyone is just the exact same thing.

 

That is cool...i guess?

 

To get back to the point, I love healing in other MMOs. Avoid this game correct?

No really, I was a resto druid on WoW, but the problem with others MMO's is that if you are the healer or dps or tank thats the only thing you can do because of your gear bonuses, in gw2 you can heal allies but you are not a dedicated healer, is just diferent...

Originally posted by Monorojo

Ive been reading and it seems that healing is completely eliminated from the equation (besides self heals and intangible aoe heals that everyone gets. It kinda sounds like everyone is a dpser who has the ability to dodge and heal.

 

So instead of the holy trinity, everyone is just the exact same thing.

 

That is cool...i guess?

 

To get back to the point, I love healing in other MMOs. Avoid this game correct?

Everyone is not the same thing, but no there are indeed no dedicated healers or tanks.

If you enjoy keeping other players alive, you can certainly do so by having a defensive build which could include blocking projectiles, debuffing enemies, buffing allies, snaring enemies, other crowd control such as stuns / polymorphs, countering attacks, making them go invisible and providing light heals. Which will mean nothing if the whole group isnt working as a team. 

Not being a 'healer' or 'tank' doesnt mean that you are just 'DPS'. If you just want to look at someone elses health bar and spam heal buttons like in other games, then you are out of luck.

You should go look up the skills on the GW2 Wiki to see the diversity on offer. Its a new breed of MMO where the name of the game is teamwork and synergy, not just sticking to your designated role and not caring about what else is going on around you.