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  rpgalon

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Joined: 3/04/11
Posts: 432

2/24/12 8:41:23 AM#21
Originally posted by FlexXlutor

There is some gameplay in this short vid, looks good! 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IxoXLysITg


Also a lot of gameplay here!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk57oisDDJ0


 

lol, there is a lot of more recent gameplay videos, why did you pick the oldest ones? like 1-2 years old...

  Blackbrrd

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2/24/12 8:42:02 AM#22

Originally posted by FlexXlutor

There is some gameplay in this short vid, looks good!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IxoXLysITg


Also a lot of gameplay here!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk57oisDDJ0



Those are about a year old and doesn't  really do the game justice.


  Opapanax

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2/24/12 9:52:21 AM#23

Good read, still going to contain my personal hype on The Secret World. I've been waiting for this game for a bit now and it's good to hear how they are trying to make the game challenging as well as fun.








I like my games entertaining, but I don't just come to them for "free" rides either. There are many layers to having a good MMO and TSW is filling one most others (if any) never bother to. Hopefully they keep up the good work and keep fleshing things out till June.








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  MumboJumbo

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Veni, Vidi, Converti

2/24/12 10:08:49 AM#24
Originally posted by latinkuro

a gameplay video is worth a thousand words.......


the reverse is not quite the same......


it is the sole reason I remain very skeptical about this game.....

Same here, still waiting for some major demonstrations...

Immersion day ~ or was that actually an "hypnotism day"? 

  black_isle

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Joined: 9/04/09
Posts: 234

2/24/12 10:15:16 AM#25

The game looks more like a traditional mmo as it gets closer to launch. I mean how can you say it is levelless when you have "skulls" for mob difficulty and you are filling bars while killing mobs to purchase ranks of abilities/skills(i.e. Grind) as you vertically progress through content/maps? And how is it so free in building one's character when you need solid holy trinity design to be successful at content? 


  BadSpock

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Joined: 8/21/04
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Logic be damned!

2/24/12 10:19:07 AM#26
Originally posted by black_isle

The game looks more like a traditional mmo as it gets closer to launch. I mean how can you say it is levelless when you have "skulls" for mob difficulty and you are filling bars while killing mobs to purchase ranks of abilities/skills(i.e. Grind) as you vertically progress through content/maps? And how is it so free in building one's character when you need solid holy trinity design to be successful at content? 

This ^

I really feel like we are seeing a lot of the usual Funcom hype. Video demonstrations I've seen didn't do much to alleviate my fears.

 

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  Unshra

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Posts: 382

2/24/12 10:22:28 AM#27

Originally posted by Vesavius

It's a shame, but the twitch combat will do this game alot of harm with the MMORPG crowd.




Especially the puzzle loving community building MMORPG crowd.



There is no twitch based combat in The Secret World, don't know where you got your informatoin but it's wrong, it's standard tab based with abilities that we are use to seeing maybe seeing the guns threw you off.



Because flying a Minmatar ship is like going down a flight of stairs on an office chair while firing an Uzi.

  Deathofsage

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Honestly:
FFXI Fanboy
RIFT hater.
Stop rewarding wow-clones.

2/24/12 10:24:28 AM#28
Originally posted by tom_gore

One small question. Do the characters dig out a mobile phone or a tablet when you fire up the ingame browser? That would be cool and immersive.


(WoW took 7 years to add an animation for checking out the map and/or reading your mail)

LOL, I recently logged into WoW on a friend's account and hit his mailbox and saw that and wondered if I'd just been blind all this time.

I didn't have the nerve to ask anyone.

Spec'ing properly is a gateway drug.
12 Million People have been meter spammed in heroics.
Placing bets Blizzard's "Titan" will be a wow-clone.

  cinos

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Posts: 975

2/24/12 10:25:58 AM#29
Originally posted by MumboJumbo
Originally posted by latinkuro

a gameplay video is worth a thousand words.......


the reverse is not quite the same......


it is the sole reason I remain very skeptical about this game.....

Same here, still waiting for some major demonstrations...

Immersion day ~ or was that actually an "hypnotism day"? 

Same.

Only footage I can find on this game is either over 1 year old or is a short edited 15 minute video.

Honest question here: Is there any footage out in a similar vein to GW2, just people playing with fraps capture?

This close to launch and with what little actual gameplay I have managed to find, my 'crap-o-meter' is going through the roof.

Edit: Want to point out that I have nothing against this game, well aside from the triple dipping payment model. Just that I have seen nothing but words coming from funcom with little to back it up. Would welcome enlightenment if I have managed to simply miss all the hours of gameplay footage this game has already shown.

  Hycoo

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Posts: 208

2/24/12 10:30:07 AM#30

Originally posted by black_isle

The game looks more like a traditional mmo as it gets closer to launch. I mean how can you say it is levelless when you have "skulls" for mob difficulty and you are filling bars while killing mobs to purchase ranks of abilities/skills(i.e. Grind) as you vertically progress through content/maps? And how is it so free in building one's character when you need solid holy trinity design to be successful at content? 





 


Yeah those missions sure sound like standard mmorpgs. I remember in all those games i played i actually i had to think... not


I would personally see the game without skulls, but i guess it would be too hard for most mmorpgs players. If you knew how abilities work you would know the difference from leveling.  Yes there is progression if thats what you mean.


Noone said there wouldn't be grinding, but you don't have to have more than 14 abilities to play the game on an equal level as someone that has all the 600 abilities, so the choice is yours.


Again if you knew how the ability system works you would know you can play as a tank, healer, dps, cc, or as a hybrid of any of those mentioned + cleanser, purger etc.


I understand that it can seem simple on the surface, especially if you look at gameplay videos where the characters are vastly OP compared to the content, but if you look on the mechanics behind it's everything but. You should look it up it's really interesting.


  Stuka1000

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Posts: 788

2/24/12 10:46:52 AM#31

Sounds good apart from constantly shouting out your build / skills etc. to the group;  Needing to discuss or call any type of game mechanic during a fight just breaks the immersion.


  zhivik

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2/24/12 11:08:19 AM#32

At least the good part is that even though traditional archetypes may be required, you have freedom so switch between them with little fuss. Thus, even if you don't have a tank in your group, one of the players can always assume that role, while another can take over healing, etc. So intead of "tank wanted" in the general chat, you will see "anyone wants to play tank for this quest/dungeon/raid?" It should be easier finding a group this way, to the very least.


The only thing I really hope for is that the game is going to be forgiving enough, so that you will be able to experiment with builds. For example, I'd love if you could add an extra skill that doesn't necessarily match your archetype, like crowd control for a healer, or a backup heal for a tank, etc. Unfortunately, from what I read here, it seems that you will have to go deep into the archetype to be effective. If this is the only way to go through content, it will be a big waste of potential.


  rpgalon

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Joined: 3/04/11
Posts: 432

2/24/12 11:10:31 AM#33

here is a video from the hands on event

link

the commentary in german makes it dificult to listen to the game....

  User Deleted
2/24/12 11:15:02 AM#34

This game will fail. Yes, it looks good. It may be well written and well developed and it might just be what players are looking for. So why will it fail?

You have a joint effort between two failure MMO companies. EA and FC!

I used to be a long time player of Anarchy Online. I recently quit primarily due to the neglect of the game on the part of FC. Paired that with the introduction of the Cash Shop which in my opinion was just another channel to abuse the players of the game. FC has proven that they will use Cash Shop items to fix content issues in their game.

1. There is an issue at the fundamental level where the game was developed around player inter-dependency. (non-soloable content) The concept is great, but the current state of the playerbase doen't support this. FC's fix: Ec\ncourage players to buy 2nd accounts (Yes that's right now you pay $30.00 per month to play this crap..And if you think this is exaggerated, I'll tell you that EVERY SINGLE player in the game that I knew had multiple accounts. It's not an option really) So FC sets up the "Veteran Account Program where you can purchase the vet account with points that you paid real cash for and that allows you to spend $10.00 per transaction to transfer characters between accounts so you can dual box level your alts. 

2. the 2nd problem is closely related to the issue above. In order to play the game, you need to run with buffs that your character cant provide, Every profession (Class) has a set of buffs that everyon else needs. Good idea, but again, the playerbase no longer supports this and players were spending large amounts of time searching for buffs and not playing the game because no one could give the needed buffs. The player solution, (See above) open a second account and level level a stable full of personal buff bots) FC's solution? "Cannned Buffs" Yes you can go into the item shop and purchase with real money, the needed buffs.

3. They say they don't sell anything that will change the balance of power. That's what thy said and it's an outright lie. 1st off, you can buy PVP victory points and go buy weapons and armor. 2nd if that isn't enough, Most of what you can buy, you can resell for ingame credits (gold). So, you want that upgrade you need? OK, go buy a Token Pack (Faction points) with real maoney and resell it ingame for game currency.

 

If anyone thinks this won't happen in TSW, well, I just don't know what to say. It's FC and EA, they are greedy software companies who don't give a dam about the quality of work if they can turn a profit at anyone's expense.

 

This is the same reason I have doubts about GW2 as well.

  Vampires

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2/24/12 11:17:49 AM#35

I can hardly wait to play it!! Being a fan of old school RPG's (eg: Breath of fire, phantasy star, ultima, daggerfall), it will be a welcome breath of fresh air that i have been longing for, and in my opinion long over due!


  rpgalon

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2/24/12 11:22:45 AM#36
Originally posted by GeeTeeEffOh

This game will fail. Yes, it looks good. It may be well written and well developed and it might just be what players are looking for. So why will it fail?

You have a joint effort between two failure MMO companies. EA and FC!

I used to be a long time player of Anarchy Online. I recently quit primarily due to the neglect of the game on the part of FC. Paired that with the introduction of the Cash Shop which in my opinion was just another channel to abuse the players of the game. FC has proven that they will use Cash Shop items to fix content issues in their game.

1. There is an issue at the fundamental level where the game was developed around player inter-dependency. (non-soloable content) The concept is great, but the current state of the playerbase doen't support this. FC's fix: Ec\ncourage players to buy 2nd accounts (Yes that's right now you pay $30.00 per month to play this crap..And if you think this is exaggerated, I'll tell you that EVERY SINGLE player in the game that I knew had multiple accounts. It's not an option really) So FC sets up the "Veteran Account Program where you can purchase the vet account with points that you paid real cash for and that allows you to spend $10.00 per transaction to transfer characters between accounts so you can dual box level your alts. 

2. the 2nd problem is closely related to the issue above. In order to play the game, you need to run with buffs that your character cant provide, Every profession (Class) has a set of buffs that everyon else needs. Good idea, but again, the playerbase no longer supports this and players were spending large amounts of time searching for buffs and not playing the game because no one could give the needed buffs. The player solution, (See above) open a second account and level level a stable full of personal buff bots) FC's solution? "Cannned Buffs" Yes you can go into the item shop and purchase with real money, the needed buffs.

3. They say they don't sell anything that will change the balance of power. That's what thy said and it's an outright lie. 1st off, you can buy PVP victory points and go buy weapons and armor. 2nd if that isn't enough, Most of what you can buy, you can resell for ingame credits (gold). So, you want that upgrade you need? OK, go buy a Token Pack (Faction points) with real maoney and resell it ingame for game currency.

 

If anyone thinks this won't happen in TSW, well, I just don't know what to say. It's FC and EA, they are greedy software companies who don't give a dam about the quality of work if they can turn a profit at anyone's expense.

 

This is the same reason I have doubts about GW2 as well.

you say this game is going to fail, but, proceeds by talking about how TSW is looking good and how AO have few people and a cash shop... I don't get it

  Hycoo

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2/24/12 11:27:53 AM#37

Originally posted by zhivik

The only thing I really hope for is that the game is going to be forgiving enough, so that you will be able to experiment with builds. For example, I'd love if you could add an extra skill that doesn't necessarily match your archetype, like crowd control for a healer, or a backup heal for a tank, etc. Unfortunately, from what I read here, it seems that you will have to go deep into the archetype to be effective. If this is the only way to go through content, it will be a big waste of potential.



You don't have go deep into each archtype to go through content. Only the nightmare dungeons (the elite versions of every dungeon) will require the most efficient builds. For you to be able to experiment with builds depends on how much time you want to spend with the game. You need many hundred, if not thousand, hours to get all abilities. But to advance in the ability wheel you really dont need that many. Ca 40-50 ability points and you can get pretty much get any ability you want, because how the skill wheel is made up, which you can take a look at here (skills can change a bit before launch).


  Rayshe

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2/24/12 11:30:11 AM#38

Originally posted by GeeTeeEffOh

This game will fail. Yes, it looks good. It may be well written and well developed and it might just be what players are looking for. So why will it fail?


You have a joint effort between two failure MMO companies. EA and FC!


I used to be a long time player of Anarchy Online. I recently quit primarily due to the neglect of the game on the part of FC. Paired that with the introduction of the Cash Shop which in my opinion was just another channel to abuse the players of the game. FC has proven that they will use Cash Shop items to fix content issues in their game.


1. There is an issue at the fundamental level where the game was developed around player inter-dependency. (non-soloable content) The concept is great, but the current state of the playerbase doen't support this. FC's fix: Ec\ncourage players to buy 2nd accounts (Yes that's right now you pay $30.00 per month to play this crap..And if you think this is exaggerated, I'll tell you that EVERY SINGLE player in the game that I knew had multiple accounts. It's not an option really) So FC sets up the "Veteran Account Program where you can purchase the vet account with points that you paid real cash for and that allows you to spend $10.00 per transaction to transfer characters between accounts so you can dual box level your alts. 


2. the 2nd problem is closely related to the issue above. In order to play the game, you need to run with buffs that your character cant provide, Every profession (Class) has a set of buffs that everyon else needs. Good idea, but again, the playerbase no longer supports this and players were spending large amounts of time searching for buffs and not playing the game because no one could give the needed buffs. The player solution, (See above) open a second account and level level a stable full of personal buff bots) FC's solution? "Cannned Buffs" Yes you can go into the item shop and purchase with real money, the needed buffs.


3. They say they don't sell anything that will change the balance of power. That's what thy said and it's an outright lie. 1st off, you can buy PVP victory points and go buy weapons and armor. 2nd if that isn't enough, Most of what you can buy, you can resell for ingame credits (gold). So, you want that upgrade you need? OK, go buy a Token Pack (Faction points) with real maoney and resell it ingame for game currency.


 


If anyone thinks this won't happen in TSW, well, I just don't know what to say. It's FC and EA, they are greedy software companies who don't give a dam about the quality of work if they can turn a profit at anyone's expense.


 


This is the same reason I have doubts about GW2 as well.



 

What classes and professions are you talking about. they have standard decks that you can take if you dont want to go though building your own, however you can build everything to your standards. also having a publisher like a EA is a good thing. imagine if a company went to Blizzard and said "we want to change all these things" blizzard would laugh them out of the building. you need companies willing to let the devs do what they want or else games don't change, sure EA isn't doing it because they care about the Genre they want money. however not every game that comes out of it will be a cash cow. Oh No the store allows you to buy the ONLY piece of gear that actually gives bonuses which is the weapons. remember this little tid bit. Armor isnt armor, its cloths, Cloths are all asthetic.


 


Seeing how you can change your skills out freely i dont see why you think you will need multiple accounts. some people will be lazy and buy the skills they need, others will hunt them. personally i am excited for the fact that i can go to a area to complete missions and gain skills.


BTW none of the things you said in there have even been mentioned to be apart of TSW. do some research before you troll.


the more you argue at AO the less you sound like you even know what your talking about. its better to be silent and have people think your a idiot then to open your mouth and prove them right.


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2/24/12 11:31:42 AM#39
Originally posted by rpgalon
Originally posted by GeeTeeEffOh

This game will fail. Yes, it looks good. It may be well written and well developed and it might just be what players are looking for. So why will it fail?

You have a joint effort between two failure MMO companies. EA and FC!

I used to be a long time player of Anarchy Online. I recently quit primarily due to the neglect of the game on the part of FC. Paired that with the introduction of the Cash Shop which in my opinion was just another channel to abuse the players of the game. FC has proven that they will use Cash Shop items to fix content issues in their game.

1. There is an issue at the fundamental level where the game was developed around player inter-dependency. (non-soloable content) The concept is great, but the current state of the playerbase doen't support this. FC's fix: Ec\ncourage players to buy 2nd accounts (Yes that's right now you pay $30.00 per month to play this crap..And if you think this is exaggerated, I'll tell you that EVERY SINGLE player in the game that I knew had multiple accounts. It's not an option really) So FC sets up the "Veteran Account Program where you can purchase the vet account with points that you paid real cash for and that allows you to spend $10.00 per transaction to transfer characters between accounts so you can dual box level your alts. 

2. the 2nd problem is closely related to the issue above. In order to play the game, you need to run with buffs that your character cant provide, Every profession (Class) has a set of buffs that everyon else needs. Good idea, but again, the playerbase no longer supports this and players were spending large amounts of time searching for buffs and not playing the game because no one could give the needed buffs. The player solution, (See above) open a second account and level level a stable full of personal buff bots) FC's solution? "Cannned Buffs" Yes you can go into the item shop and purchase with real money, the needed buffs.

3. They say they don't sell anything that will change the balance of power. That's what thy said and it's an outright lie. 1st off, you can buy PVP victory points and go buy weapons and armor. 2nd if that isn't enough, Most of what you can buy, you can resell for ingame credits (gold). So, you want that upgrade you need? OK, go buy a Token Pack (Faction points) with real maoney and resell it ingame for game currency.

 

If anyone thinks this won't happen in TSW, well, I just don't know what to say. It's FC and EA, they are greedy software companies who don't give a dam about the quality of work if they can turn a profit at anyone's expense.

 

This is the same reason I have doubts about GW2 as well.

you say this game is going to fail, but, proceeds by talking about how TSW is looking good and how AO have few people and a cash shop... I don't get it

I'll break it down. No matter how good the game has been written and developed. It will be ruined by a cash shop. And it has already been announce that TSW will have one. By looking at FC's other games (I can't speak to AoC), we can see how they will use the CS in TSW.

  Hycoo

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2/24/12 11:32:01 AM#40

Originally posted by GeeTeeEffOh

This game will fail. Yes, it looks good. It may be well written and well developed and it might just be what players are looking for. So why will it fail?


You have a joint effort between two failure MMO companies. EA and FC!


I used to be a long time player of Anarchy Online. I recently quit primarily due to the neglect of the game on the part of FC. Paired that with the introduction of the Cash Shop which in my opinion was just another channel to abuse the players of the game. FC has proven that they will use Cash Shop items to fix content issues in their game.


1. There is an issue at the fundamental level where the game was developed around player inter-dependency. (non-soloable content) The concept is great, but the current state of the playerbase doen't support this. FC's fix: Ec\ncourage players to buy 2nd accounts (Yes that's right now you pay $30.00 per month to play this crap..And if you think this is exaggerated, I'll tell you that EVERY SINGLE player in the game that I knew had multiple accounts. It's not an option really) So FC sets up the "Veteran Account Program where you can purchase the vet account with points that you paid real cash for and that allows you to spend $10.00 per transaction to transfer characters between accounts so you can dual box level your alts. 


2. the 2nd problem is closely related to the issue above. In order to play the game, you need to run with buffs that your character cant provide, Every profession (Class) has a set of buffs that everyon else needs. Good idea, but again, the playerbase no longer supports this and players were spending large amounts of time searching for buffs and not playing the game because no one could give the needed buffs. The player solution, (See above) open a second account and level level a stable full of personal buff bots) FC's solution? "Cannned Buffs" Yes you can go into the item shop and purchase with real money, the needed buffs.


3. They say they don't sell anything that will change the balance of power. That's what thy said and it's an outright lie. 1st off, you can buy PVP victory points and go buy weapons and armor. 2nd if that isn't enough, Most of what you can buy, you can resell for ingame credits (gold). So, you want that upgrade you need? OK, go buy a Token Pack (Faction points) with real maoney and resell it ingame for game currency.


 


If anyone thinks this won't happen in TSW, well, I just don't know what to say. It's FC and EA, they are greedy software companies who don't give a dam about the quality of work if they can turn a profit at anyone's expense.


 


This is the same reason I have doubts about GW2 as well.



 


If you played AO up until now (how many years has it been?) they must have done something right...


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