Originally posted by Ozmodan

They have only been working on Diablo III for fours years.  Hardly a good comparison.  

They took some fluff out of Diablo III, it won't hurt it in the least.  I like the way they are fine tuning it

If you don't like the RMT-Auction house, then don't use it.  I intend to enjoy the game and have fun with it, without using the auction house.  There will be many guilds that form to avoid that crap, just get into one and share with your guildmates.  The game is designed to be played with others.

No they announced it four years ago. Development started in 2000. So going on 12 years.

http://www.diablowiki.net/Diablo_3_History

from wiki:

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  June 28, 2000. Diablo II released.








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  Late 2000. Preliminary work begins on Diablo III.

I'll say it again, RMT-AuctionHouse needs to be removed. It was removed for Diablo3's release in Korea because the government wouldn't allow it for Tax reasons.

This means it CAN be removed for the NA & EU release, or all together removed.

Originally posted by orbitxo

from wiki:

June 28, 2000. Diablo II released.

Late 2000. Preliminary work begins on Diablo III.

dont get me wrong- I love D3 direction, and will play it Blizzard did an exceptional job with starcraft2. that said i just like to jab at their taunts and 'beta' promotion contests..this time frame just give many of us time to play other games out there.
 

That is true but it is believed that the project was scrapped in 2003 when many people left Blizzard North and started up again in 2005 when they closed Blizzard North for good.

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

I'll say it again, RMT-AuctionHouse needs to be removed. It was removed for Diablo3's release in Korea because the government wouldn't allow it for Tax reasons.

 

This means it CAN be removed for the NA & EU release, or all together removed.

 

 

It was removed because of anti gambling regulations.

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/setView/news/gameId/644/showArticle/23199

There is no shot of it being removed in the US or EU. 

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

I'll say it again, RMT-AuctionHouse needs to be removed. It was removed for Diablo3's release in Korea because the government wouldn't allow it for Tax reasons.

This means it CAN be removed for the NA & EU release, or all together removed.

May I ask why? How does the RMT effect you? It is a optional feature that you can ignore. It was around in D1 and D2 and any other MMO you play. Its called gold farmers.  What is the difference if Blizzard gives us a interface for the transactions or not? Its going to happen ethier in game with a interface or out of game.   

I'm in the CLOSED BETA.

Even the latest CB only includes half of Act 1 with a level 13 cap (Normal Mode).

HUGE CONCERNS:

1. 
   No Custom Games: No more bartering, Baal Runz 43, Trist Runs 34, Rush 4 Forge, PKPKPK, Trade, Tradez, Bring Soj, Need Sigons, FREE, FREEEEE, Need Freee!, Exec Sword 4 Trade, etc. The game system goes like this: You pick from a pool of listed quests, e.g., "Skeleton King Act 1". Other players on the same quest can join you.


2. 
   Primitive Chat Community: The chat system is nothing like Diablo 2's chat. Instead, it's a basic box in the lower right of your character select screen. There are no chat / character avatars, profiles, item linking, no guild channels, etc. There is just a drop menu for class chat.


3. 
   The Auction House dominates the economy. Imagine starting a game and seeing the WoW auction house, but dealing with having to see loads of RMTs. This is Diablo 3.


4. 
   The Randomized Statistics aren't as deep as Diablo 2. I've found SEVERAL blue items that share the exact same name and stats. I've only found a few yellow items, so I'm not sure if this applies to them as well. Again, I'm only in Normal Mode and getting any drops other than tiny piles of gold is rare.

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  Gold will automatically pick up when your character is near.


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  No more ID scrolls. You can ID any item by right-cliking on it.


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  No more TP scrolls. The TP is now a spell that you can cast to return home.


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  No more "TP, please". When in town, you will see 1-4 banners near the center waypoint. You simple click one of the banners to be warped to that player.


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  The music is VERY Diablo. Nostalgic and wonderful.


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  No more spamming health potions. The use of health potions are on a 30 second recast. However, many monsters will drop "hearts". If you run over a heart, you regain some health. Try to think of Zelda.


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  If you kill "X" amount of monsters within a certain about of time, your character will screem a random taunt. Try to imagine "M-M-M-M-Monster Kill" from Unreal Tournament.


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  Gold you pick up is shared with ALL CHARACTERS on your account. If you have a lvl 60 Wizard with 573,343 gold and decide to create a level 1 Barabarian, then the barbarian will have instant access to that 573,343 gold.


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  When you "upgrade" the blacksmith crafting station (it costs gold and will take some time to fully upgrade it), it will upgrade for all your characters.

I don't know how many people here posting have had the opportunity to play the D3 beta, but it is FUN. All of the other points about wanting to manage stat points, RMT auction house, etc mean nothing to me - playing through the beta (first 45 minutes of the game really) was an absolute blast. The latest release adjusted some skill aspects and gave a good demonstration to how runes will work - you now get to see how "customizing" your skills plays out with different runes. Do you want more damage, more range/AoE, etc? The interface for runes needs some work still, but the game is just flat out a pleasure to play.

There will still be the prestige factor of finding "uber-rare" loot and showing it off; who cases that some people will buy that look from an AH? Some people hacked their ways to obtaining it in D2 anyway, so at least here it will be from legitimately playing the game to obtain these items.

Originally posted by Suzie_Ford

In the letter, Wilson indicates that the closed beta version of D3 is in good shape and that the version the team is currently testing internally is in "great shape". He indicates that players should hold Blizzard to a high standard for excellence and that he believe that players will be pleased with the result.

I'm not pleased at all, I think they're wrecking the game. It doesn't even feel like Diablo, it feels more like WoWablo. And now that they've jacked up the UI and removed rune drops it's good to go? I think not. They've been removing more and more of the mechanics that have worked in the past and what's left is a far cry of what Diablo is/should be all about.

I'm a huge Diablo fan who has put thousands of hours in D1 and D2 and I will NOT be buying this watered-down Diablo wannabe. It is not Diablo anymore. If that means it's in good shape then by all means, release the steaming pile.

This game is gonna be outdated by the time it's released >_>

Originally posted by Gaoxin

Diablo 3 is the Duke Nukem Forever of the rpg world

 

because it would never launch or because when it come it was crap? XD

Originally posted by Zekiah

Originally posted by Suzie_Ford

In the letter, Wilson indicates that the closed beta version of D3 is in good shape and that the version the team is currently testing internally is in "great shape". He indicates that players should hold Blizzard to a high standard for excellence and that he believe that players will be pleased with the result.

I'm not pleased at all, I think they're wrecking the game. It doesn't even feel like Diablo, it feels more like WoWablo. And now that they've jacked up the UI and removed rune drops it's good to go? I think not. They've been removing more and more of the mechanics that have worked in the past and what's left is a far cry of what Diablo is/should be all about.

I'm a huge Diablo fan who has put thousands of hours in D1 and D2 and I will NOT be buying this watered-down Diablo wannabe. It is not Diablo anymore. If that means it's in good shape then by all means, release the steaming pile.

Basically this, not happy with what they have been doing. Once more people get to play it I think more will agree, if you're looking for low/mediocre you'll have some fun with D3.

Originally posted by Zeppelin4

Originally posted by oubers

Originally posted by Zeppelin4

I hope to see this soon! I have been looking forward to it for a long time. The only issue I have seen on the D3 forums that bothers me a little is how easy it is on the first run through before it ramps up the difficulty. It would be nice to have a option to make it harder on your first play through.

 

since they forced me to have an internet connection to play single player and the fact they are taking some elements out of the game THEY dont like was enough for me to leave D3 for what it is this time.....sorry blizz.

I'll be waiting for TL2 now....they offer alot for only 20$

 

What did they drop that makes you not want to play? I don't understand why it bothers people about the internet connection. Its 2012 and who isn't connected to the internet anymore 24/7 for the most part. Its like complaining that you need a computer to play a PC game. :P

As for torchlight 2 I have mild interest in. They need to do alot more then the first one to sell me on it.

Because there are people that travel, and would like something to do on their laptop while they're away from the internet and, since you clearly don't know, wifi (at least GOOD wifi) isn't always free. Then, there are people like me who live deep in rural areas that don't have reliable internet connections. I lose my interest everytime it rains, everytime there's rough winds, everytime there's snow, etc. I seldom go more than 10-15 minutes before it kicks back on, but it would interrupt gameplay and possibly cause me to lose progress. Let alone those occasions where the internet goes out for a day or so. So no, it's not like complaining you need a PC to play a PC game.

EDIT: What's with the timeline you guys are coming up with? D3 has been in development for almost if not over a decade. The first version was scrapped when Blizz North was taken in, and reworked into the newer version you have now. THAT version has been in development somewhere between 4-6 years now, I don't know exact dates. But the concept of D3 as it is, has been in development for a long time now.

http://kotaku.com/116290/diablo-3-trashed

It is too much WoW influence for me.  I will still play, but all I see with changes is pure dumbing it down or getting it ready for console.  The game is not getting near enough budget or developers for what Diablo 3 should have gotten.  They are not treating it like a smashing Blizzard IP. 

WoWablo is sadly way too close to truth.  Total bummer, but i'll still play.  I still have high hopes. 

reply to Talins post-

I did get a chance to play D3 at Blizzcon. that said it wasnt as deep as most beta key testers have played but i got the flavor  of it - that it just seem like a rpg out of  the Warhammer online franchise (which i love!)

so i was like meh -its ok.-better than wow graphics. iam sure it respectively will have its hardcore players-maybe myself included. the build up of this game will have many dissapointed.

itll have its limelight for the month- but another game will come along and replace it, this year we will see many great games beeing released. at this point-D3 is just piggy backing on the new year -the year of the dragon.

;)

Originally posted by ProfRed

It is too much WoW influence for me.  I will still play, but all I see with changes is pure dumbing it down or getting it ready for console.  The game is not getting near enough budget or developers for what Diablo 3 should have gotten.  They are not treating it like a smashing Blizzard IP. 

WoWablo is sadly way too close to truth.  Total bummer, but i'll still play.  I still have high hopes. 

 

enjoy.  Me, I am done with Blizz games.  warcraft back in the 90s used to have a gritty edge to it.  Blizz games are too cartoony/ pre-teenish for me.

Originally posted by TyvolusNext

Originally posted by ProfRed

It is too much WoW influence for me.  I will still play, but all I see with changes is pure dumbing it down or getting it ready for console.  The game is not getting near enough budget or developers for what Diablo 3 should have gotten.  They are not treating it like a smashing Blizzard IP. 

WoWablo is sadly way too close to truth.  Total bummer, but i'll still play.  I still have high hopes. 

 

enjoy.  Me, I am done with Blizz games.  warcraft back in the 90s used to have a gritty edge to it.  Blizz games are too cartoony/ pre-teenish for me.

The rainbow/WoW-ish graphics make me want to hurl. The graphics are really not up to par for what they should be, watered down, blurry and just lackluster.

I'm sick about this TBH. I've been waiting for this game for TEN FRIKKIN' YEARS and what they're dumping on us is pure garbage by Blizzard standards...or at least what those standards used to represent.

And with their latest garbage patch, they're making runes non-drops now? And the UI is totally for console and works like crap. It's pathetic! I'm not going to waste my money on this game unless they really turn things around quickly.

Pisses me off. So sick of companies pulling this crap. I expect that out of most companies but I didn't expect this out of Blizzard. They should be ashamed to release this game in its current poor condition.

Here's a quick sample of what other testers are saying:

-Skill tree's are great but crappy skills break them? REMOVE!

-Choosing Attributes breaks characters? REMOVE!

-Chat channels are for spammers and trolls! REMOVE! Oh wait... you want? Here is piece of crap.

-Synergy was boring - Runes drop to make it more fun! Game will be best game evar! Oh just kidding too complicated - REMOVE!

-What is scroll of identify? What is this? REMOVE! (And No job for Deckard Cain either!)

-Basic attack? What is this? We gave you SPELLS! REMOVE!

Absolutely, 100% correct. They only thing they've left that resembles Diablo is rare drops, let's see how long it takes before they jack that up.

Pathetic.

blizzard is now part of another company that have consoles games. am i right?.. things wont be the same anymore. iam fine with that.  i had fun with blizz gasmes. time to move on.

Originally posted by Zeppelin4

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

I'll say it again, RMT-AuctionHouse needs to be removed. It was removed for Diablo3's release in Korea because the government wouldn't allow it for Tax reasons.

This means it CAN be removed for the NA & EU release, or all together removed.

May I ask why? How does the RMT effect you? It is a optional feature that you can ignore. It was around in D1 and D2 and any other MMO you play. Its called gold farmers.  What is the difference if Blizzard gives us a interface for the transactions or not? Its going to happen ethier in game with a interface or out of game.   

The difference now is that instead of combatting gold farmers, they've partnered with them.  There will still be a flood of cheap epics on the market, but now, Blizzard gets a cut of what was once illicit sales.  This is actually better for gold farmers because there was this little thing that most gamers possessed back in the day called common sense, which told them that giving out their credit card information to buy gold might be a bad idea.  Now, the gold farmers are officially sanctioned so they'll have a huge new market to sell to.

As to how that will affect people who don't wish to use the RMT shop, they are going to be hard pressed to find anything of high value on the in-game shop if they were looking to trade or buy for in-game gold.  Why?  Because everyone will be trying to make a buck on anything rare or better.  The in-game AH will be relegated to the role of a flea market for trash.