many friends played Darkfall Online from start to few month ago (when they announce "wipe not wipe"). And when I show this to them, they just start laught.
Why ?
In darkfall this was on every day schedule. When someone big lose, it start yelling about GMs.. its like propaganda.

Originally posted by Voiidiin

Really? why are you guys not in DarkFall then ? It may not be perfect but at least it runs, and it does not look like EQ1 knockoff.

Seriously the screenshot looks just plain terrible, worse than ShadowBane and that game was FUgly, but it ran well at least. SV guys smell like sheisters who forgot how to do the scam part of this game. They need to go read about Dark and Light.

Can't answer for everyone else... but I have a high-level / close-to-max character - I played DF for a long time and got bored with it.  I especially don't like spell pre-surge mechanics and extended bunny hop / water skiiing physics, even though I had stormblast,wof,begone etc maxed.

The screenshot does look terrible... not sure why the lighting is so bad.

Originally posted by rodier

many friends played Darkfall Online from start to few month ago (when they announce "wipe not wipe"). And when I show this to them, they just start laught.
Why ?
In darkfall this was on every day schedule. When someone big lose, it start yelling about GMs.. its like propaganda.

Its hard to believe that in DF GM's will interfere in a middle of a siege and start banning people for not such clear reasons. And just came in my mind that some months ago they even killed players when they where sieging AQ's keep because the gate was bugged and couldnt be locked for some reason. Still GM's killing people in a game that people paying monthly subs isnt a very professional thing to do.

My MO account was banned 2 years ago..? I think? The GMs accused me of killing other players with a cheat and speedhacking. It's sad that such exploits could even exist in a pay to play MMO. Anyway, they were all false accusations and Star Vault never unbanned me. Waste of $40 dollars, imo.

Originally posted by psykobilly

 

The majority of AQ unsubbbed from Mortal online today, and here is the truth behind the story.  There was a siege today, and the enemy of AQ won the siege against AQ keep.  No one in AQ argues about the outcome of the siege...  the enemy had AQ greatly outnumbered and won the siege fairly.

During the siege 3 members of AQ got banned mid fight.  Here is the proof that the gm's gave justifying the bans:

http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/6923/80116218.jpg

It's not obvious from the picture what the proof is, but according to the gm's it is the 'false' flagged item.  The GM's are implying that the false flag means the item is on the ghost and that the ghost is exploiting.  Here is a little chat with discord that better explains it:

 

00[11:55] <[AQ]Gankez> we're unsubbing

00[11:55] <[AQ]Gankez> my guys werent cheating ... take care

[11:55] <[GM]Discord> if AQ unsubs cause they want to supporting exploiting I can't do anything about that

00[11:55] <[AQ]Gankez> we werent exploiting

[11:55] <[GM]Discord> you saw the proof yourself

00[11:55] <[AQ]Gankez> i saw something that said false

[11:55] <[GM]Discord> that means its not in the bank

00[11:55] <[AQ]Gankez> the bank?

[11:55] <[GM]Discord> it has nowhere else to be but on the char

[11:56] <[GM]Discord> yes thats a master list of all the items

[11:56] <[GM]Discord> true is bank false is char

00[11:56] <[AQ]Gankez> and what baout if something is on a corpse?

00[11:56] <[AQ]Gankez> if theres a loot bag lying on the ground with something in it

00[11:56] <[AQ]Gankez> would that say true as well?

[11:57] <[GM]Discord> false 

00[11:57] <[AQ]Gankez> ah so you mean if he had it on him and died

00[11:57] <[AQ]Gankez> then was in ghost mode it'd say false?

[11:57] <[GM]Discord> yes

00[11:57] <[AQ]Gankez> i hope you are putting two and two together

[11:57] <[GM]Discord> once the loot bag is gone, so is the items

00[11:58] <[AQ]Gankez> so if he had it on him and died

00[11:58] <[AQ]Gankez> he'd be a ghost

[11:58] <[GM]Discord> they saw him do this twice thats why they waited for the res

00[11:58] <[AQ]Gankez> and it'd say false

00[11:58] <[AQ]Gankez> if the food was in the loot bag

00[11:58] <[AQ]Gankez> unless im misunderstanding something it looks like your guy made a big fuck up saying he was carrying it on a ghost

00[11:58] <[AQ]Gankez> when he just died at the keep

 

So now we see the 'proof' that the gm's provide for banning people mid siege.  Warchild (the ghost in the jpeg) had just died.  Some of his items got picked up, and some were sitting on his corpse.  The 'urial with cream' was flagged as false, and the GM automatically assumed it was a ghost inventory exploit rather than the obvious solution that the item was on the corpse.

But let's take a step back and try to use a little common sense here:  Why in hell would someone use a ghost inventory exploit to ONLY get some 'urial with cream'?  It makes no sense at the most basic level.  Not to mention AQ had horses at the keep filled with food, arrows, bandages etc.  This whole situation does not pass the most basic common sense litmus test.  Also, I am personally unaware of the existence of any such ghost inventory exploit even being in game.

Good fight to the people at the siege.

I hope all the Mortal GM's involved get fired, especially Ovidius and Discord.

So far the unsub count is at 54 accounts and climbing.  

 

So if ten people are leaving...that means they are down to 2...oh boy

Originally posted by argirop

Originally posted by rodier

many friends played Darkfall Online from start to few month ago (when they announce "wipe not wipe"). And when I show this to them, they just start laught.
Why ?
In darkfall this was on every day schedule. When someone big lose, it start yelling about GMs.. its like propaganda.

 

Its hard to believe that in DF GM's will interfere in a middle of a siege and start banning people for not such clear reasons. And just came in my mind that some months ago they even killed players when they where sieging AQ's keep because the gate was bugged and could be locked for some reason. Still GM's killing people in a game that people paying monthly subs isnt a very professional thing to do.

The GMs come across as unprofessional children, bullying the players in there sandbox. I think more should leave other than AQ's guild, developers need to understand that this behavior is intolerable in any form.

I get it why some of you tried to make MO work, there was a point in my MMO life i was interested in it, but i never pre-order MMOs anymore and because of that i got to see how miserable all of you early adopters suffered at this development teams hands. Even stranger was the fact that SV just fired 25 of there employees leaving just a few left. thats the writing on the wall to me. This incident should be the last straw for all of you, those in AQ and even those who were against them in the siege.

DF-2 is coming soon, there is also the full release of Xsyon (yes that game is a bit wonky) and while The Secret World is not a complete sandbox it does have a lot of PvP merit in it, even GW2 has some very exciting PvP coming down the pipe.

Either way, as gamers you guys should be treated with a modicum of respect, something these devs have not shown, especially the few who have put up with MO's extreme struggles.

Good luck where ever you guys land.

Thats unfortunately the bane of indy games and indy Devs, they're largely young/gullible and their games have such a sensitive population that whoever has enough "potential subs" can bully them into submission and concessions to avoid losing money that could spell shutdown.

Good luck in the next game, I'm sure we'll run across each other somewhere hopefully in a decent game.

AQ are being bad losers, as usual.  They exploited, got caught, and probably doctored that conversation and left out several main arguments from SV.  Bottom line is they lost their keep, and now are rage quitting, they completely forgot to mention the exploit that got them banned.

Originally posted by cirsyndic

Thats unfortunately the bane of indy games and indy Devs, they're largely young/gullible and their games have such a sensitive population that whoever has enough "potential subs" can bully them into submission and concessions to avoid losing money that could spell shutdown.

Good luck in the next game, I'm sure we'll run across each other somewhere hopefully in a decent game.

Well I hope you aren't implying we are bullying them by unsubbing... we haven't contested the siege results and we haven't asked for anything from SV.  

For me, the removal of Discord and Ovidius would be enough though.

Originally posted by Jester92

AQ are being bad losers, as usual.  They exploited, got caught, and probably doctored that conversation and left out several main arguments from SV.  Bottom line is they lost their keep, and now are rage quitting, they completely forgot to mention the exploit that got them banned.

Pretty much this. Bye AQQ.

Well I know the server has been brought down. I hope it is not to give the keep back. I hope you guys stay to your word and unsub. I hope this is not just a stunt to make SV capitulate.

Because if this is not a lesson.  GM interferance happens all the time.  It happened today. It has happened many times before and it will happen again.

Originally posted by Jester92

AQ are being bad losers, as usual.  They exploited, got caught, and probably doctored that conversation and left out several main arguments from SV.  Bottom line is they lost their keep, and now are rage quitting, they completely forgot to mention the exploit that got them banned.

Even if you are right, which really is just your opinion, its still a blow to the population that is extremely small with them in it. Now SV is out 20-50 subs (depending on who ou believe about the guilds numbers).

If you want to talk about population, aq constantly kills people who are new, for no reason.  The community is actually improving very well, there is a guild dedicated for teaching newbies, so far of the max guild(200 people) we have 60-70 that have subscribed. In the past week.

Originally posted by Jester92

AQ are being bad losers, as usual.  They exploited, got caught, and probably doctored that conversation and left out several main arguments from SV.  Bottom line is they lost their keep, and now are rage quitting, they completely forgot to mention the exploit that got them banned.

Exactly, finally the GMs are taking charge and enforcing the rules as they should.

AQ was basically just a shadow so they ragequitting will have no impact on the game, specially not in the south.

And why are u not talking about the AQ GM Psykobilly ? The one that fueled with rage right after a server reboot took and destroyed 3 keeps and probably alot more so that the server is down for alot longer ? Why not talk about that ?

Originally posted by Voiidiin

Originally posted by Jester92

AQ are being bad losers, as usual.  They exploited, got caught, and probably doctored that conversation and left out several main arguments from SV.  Bottom line is they lost their keep, and now are rage quitting, they completely forgot to mention the exploit that got them banned.

Even if you are right, which really is just your opinion, its still a blow to the population that is extremely small with them in it. Now SV is out 20-50 subs (depending on who ou believe about the guilds numbers).

The count is currently at 59 accounts.  We're tracking responses in our internal guild forum.

Obviously we don't have a way to verify each account, but I take everyones word for it.  My 3 are unsubbed I can guarantee.

As for being bad losers, I can say I truly do not think this would have happened without the false bans.  

I know... its either their GM or some wierd unforseen Exploit,  2 keeps were instantly destroyed in two very different parts of Nave, something went wrong and then they took the server down...

Originally posted by ThaBadMan

And why are u not talking about the AQ GM Psykobilly ? The one that fueled with rage right after a server reboot took and destroyed 3 keeps and probably alot more so that the server is down for alot longer ? Why not talk about that ?

I honestly did not know AQ had a GM at all.  I have not been in game for hours, so if that actually happened then I think it's pretty fucked up.  But active players can only be counselors I thought....?  How could a mere counselor blow up a keep?  Or anyone but the master GM for that matter?

Originally posted by Jester92

I know... its either their GM or some wierd unforseen Exploit,  2 keeps were instantly destroyed in two very different parts of Nave, something went wrong and then they took the server down...

3 mate, Bandit Alliance got destroyed, Shadow Squad got destroyed and Chernobyl got destroyed. 3 keeps 2 close to eachother and 1 on the other side of the map.

Originally posted by ThaBadMan

Originally posted by Jester92

I know... its either their GM or some wierd unforseen Exploit,  2 keeps were instantly destroyed in two very different parts of Nave, something went wrong and then they took the server down...

3 mate, Bandit Alliance got destroyed, Shadow Squad got destroyed and Chernobyl got destroyed. 3 keeps 2 close to eachother and 1 on the other side of the map.

I didnt see Shadow Squad but ill take your word for it, but yeah.

Originally posted by psykobilly

Originally posted by ThaBadMan

And why are u not talking about the AQ GM Psykobilly ? The one that fueled with rage right after a server reboot took and destroyed 3 keeps and probably alot more so that the server is down for alot longer ? Why not talk about that ?

I honestly did not know AQ had a GM at all.  I have not been in game for hours, so if that actually happened then I think it's pretty fucked up.  But active players can only be counselors I thought....?  How could a mere counselor blow up a keep?  Or anyone but the master GM for that matter?

Nah u could become a GM like Syndic and Bibi was before they got booted for the shit they did. Im not saying u knew or not but that shit is fucked up.