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2/19/12 5:29:23 AM#61
Originally posted by DannyGlover There is not such a memo..............but it kinda obvious. Vet doesn't mean you are an expert, just that you play those games longer than most Unless you meant that a newby in this forum might be a vet as well, in which case you are right, but I find it difficult to think tht a vet of this genre doesn't have an old account with this site which is the oldest MMO site on the net. Zenimax.......players want Skyrim Online. They do NOT want WOWTES |
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2/19/12 5:39:54 AM#62
I've certainly complained more than praised lately, as I haven't seen any new approaches in a long time. 2004-2011 was, in my opinion, a period when this genre stopped evolving in any meaningful way as companies continually fell over themselves trying to create their own version of WoW in an attempt to grab a chunk of it's success rather than evolve the genre as a whole. The 'past' me, at various points between the late 90's and early 2000s, occasionally thought 'Wow, can you imagine what this genre could evolve into over the next decade? It'll be amazing to watch all the creative ideas unfold as imaginative developers gain access to new technology and expand this genre'. Instead the whole thing stuttered to a halt for about seven years as nearly everyone with any funding chased the same exact pie as WoW, strangely with almost the exact same game - usually just less smooth.
I personally enjoyed it when different games were different games, rather than a new clone of WoW - complete with it's limitations and restrictions despite advances in technology and the fact that the people that wanted WoW already had WoW.
So, while I am looking forward to playing GW2 and seeing how all of their approaches fit together, I'm more 'hyped' about the idea that finally someone with funding and apparent ability is making an MMO that goes beyond another linear task hub grind and approaching the entire experience with some creative solutions to decade old problems. Plus, so far it just looks like it could be a lot of fun (I may prefer semi-hardcore high risk sandbox fantasy experiences, but I love games and can appreciate a fun experience for what it is when one pops up).
While it may not end up being my dream game, I'm very proud of them for not just turning in sloppily copied homework and I hope it marks the end of big budget WoW clones. That would be great for the next 10 years of development.
As for hyped, that would really apply to Pathfinder Online & ArcheAge for me. Those two are really sounding great so far. |
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Lionexx
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Joined: 5/18/04
Alphen arms dealer rijin? No one can pronounce that Kyle! I can''t speak African.. |
2/19/12 5:45:49 AM#63
Lets be clear here Guild Wars 2 isn't truly a "MMO" In a sense to what a MMO is but it will be(i know what i just said make's little sense) There is no death of MMOs, It's the start of bad developer's with bad ideas to make quick cash, not the classic developer's (EQ,DAoC,AC,UO,AC2,,EvE FFS...etc) with bright smart ideas.
Anyway's YES I am hyped for Guild Wars 2, It's going to be sick and i cannot wait any longer, but i want it to be amazing not rushed either. Playing: Everthing |
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2/19/12 5:47:57 AM#64
The forum that I was a member of for almost a dozen years, closed shop last year. I'm testing the waters here. |
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Laughing-man
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Joined: 4/23/09
I thought what I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those Deaf-mutes. |
2/19/12 5:51:35 AM#65
Originally posted by lionexx 2000 people in one zone makes me think this is an MMO more so than any other "mmo" of the past 5 years... Read up on the WvWvW info and tell me thats not an MMO |
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2/19/12 5:51:53 AM#66
Playing mmos for 10+ years, video games for 25 years. I've never been so hyped by a mmo combat mechanics than with GW2, but with perspective, I'm a bit worried about the low number of infight skills for most classes :/ Due to being a very long time player, I'm expecting every new MMO to step things further, so for combat I'm expecting complex, very deep and varied mechanics. Aside the Elementalist with its 20 skills, I'm not sure GW2 combat strategy choices will be that varied. ***** Before hitting that reply button, please READ the WHOLE thread you're about to post in ***** |
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2/19/12 5:57:44 AM#67
I put my hopes in this game. I hope they will deliver everything they promised so far. "Happiness is not a destination. It is a method of life."  |
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Lionexx
Novice Member
Joined: 5/18/04
Alphen arms dealer rijin? No one can pronounce that Kyle! I can''t speak African.. |
2/19/12 6:13:26 AM#68
Originally posted by Laughing-man Not trying to start a fight; But clearly you didn't read the entire post. I said It isn't truly a MMO ina sense to what a MMO is, but it will be. I even stated what i just said made little sense because it's contredicting myself. I know everything about Guild Wars 2, Well everything anyone else will if they do any research i have also played Guild Wars 1 since closed beta, and been following GW2 since i saw a leaked post of a project about Guild Wars 2. Playing: Everthing |
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2/19/12 6:20:41 AM#69
Originally posted by Lobotomist /Signed Especially the Combat, i cant stand anymore the boring and pointless combat of classic mmos. (although iam not really confident about the GW2 combat system, but it could at least be a step in the right direction) And of course the WvW. It may be the second DAoC with a few improvements. On the other Hand WAR was also meant to be the next DAoC, and everyone knows what happend. As i always said the last years. Time will tell. Just wait and see. About beeing hyped.. i really dont know, if i am able to be really hyped. The last time i played more than a few month was WoW, and that was a let-down. After that i was hyped for Darkfall, another let-down. At least i will try it out, and the hope dies last. |
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2/19/12 6:27:39 AM#70
What defines an "MMO Vet" anyway? I started with mmo's with wow (EU vanilla launch) if you exclude my free ride on runescape before.. And I am looking forward to GW2 because a large portion of the things I complained about and thought was weird/dumb in WoW (and some of it's clones) have been remedied in GW2. Never need to fight over a mob(or collectables or whatever) again while "questing" and wait for it's respawn ( i remember standing in 20+ minutes queues to kill mobs in wow vanilla release) Mr gnoll super leader doesn't just stand around walking in a 2 square meter box waiting to be killed and respawns 30 seconds later when you do so. No 2 month ardous gear grind to be able experience pvp without getting 1 shot. and many more. |
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2/19/12 6:37:13 AM#71
Originally posted by DannyGlover Name? (Just curious) Zenimax.......players want Skyrim Online. They do NOT want WOWTES |
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2/19/12 6:37:28 AM#72
Originally posted by Valkaern what this dude said its very true its been really bad for us MMO players that we been getting scammed in theses WoW clones even stwor is a WoW clone as much as people dont wanna admit it that bioware game will fail soon already seeing people QQing about it due to WoWi cloneing |
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Lobotomist
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Joined: 5/20/07
I got so much |
2/19/12 6:37:40 AM#73
BTW WAR PVP - people here criticise it. But, WAR failed at big picture. But its PVP was awesome. The game just lacked in so many different areas aside from PVP (like stability , PVE, balance)  |
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2/19/12 6:43:47 AM#74
Originally posted by dlld in my eyes your a vet your same as me Runescape was my first MMO when i was 13 then WoW came out and i played that now im 22 been gaming for awile long enough to see many deaths of MMO's and have a understanding that genre needs a change and that gw2 is maybe going give us the change if gw2 wont then im giving up on MMOs for next 3 years and just play single player games |
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2/19/12 6:45:14 AM#75
Originally posted by Lobotomist True i liked War it was really good game just got a bad rep in the end war end up fixing most of issues but was too late people left |
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2/19/12 6:48:28 AM#76
I think people that started with WoW at launch could be considered a vet, maybe as long as they have a dozen other titles under their belt along with WoW. But I think some people around here would only consider those who started out with the first graphical MMOs vets. |
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2/19/12 7:17:26 AM#77
I´m a mmo veteran playing since 2001 mmorpgs and im not hyped up for GW 2. It has some few good things on the paper but it s still a themepark and for casual. I hae only still hype for Archeage if this doesnt deliver then the mmorpg genre is doomed. |
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2/19/12 7:22:38 AM#78
I think this thread is quite pointless actually. Veteran or not, there will always be a division amongst players as to whether they are hyped up for a game or not :/.
Currently Playing Random shizzle!
Waiting on TERA, GW2, TSW |
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2/19/12 7:23:25 AM#79
Originally posted by DannyGlover So how long have you been playing MMO's then? Have you only ever played them on broadband or did you ever play them on a trusty 33k modem? I'll be very interested in your answer. 
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2/19/12 7:25:00 AM#80
Originally posted by Thane +1
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