Originally posted by Wraithone

Originally posted by Sorrow

Originally posted by Wraithone

Originally posted by Vesavius

TBH, I love the looks and the combat of this game, I really do.

If there was nothing else going on I would buy the box in a heartbeat. But... with Aion launching fresh servers in the EU and GW2 now looming over the landscape I can't bring myself to get into it just for 3 or whatever months.

I actually feel bad for TERA because it's, I feel, simply not gonna get the player base it deserves due to timing.

If this had come out 6 months ago I would have been allover it :(

 

Aion?? It looks nice, but I'm not at all interested in another one of NCsofts gankfest games.  If they had a real PvE server option, then I'd be happy to give it a try. But I have no interest in being ganked by roaming gangs of bored  high geared, high level players. I doubt that NCsoft will ever learn their lesson when it comes to the western markets.  As for GW2, I suspect we will be lucky to see that by fall (more likely nov-dec).

Rofl what the hell do you think Tera is, it was one of NCSoft's gankfest games that got stolen... You think just because the NCSoft team the made it quit and changed thier company name its not the same game they walked out of NC with?

Boggles

Its been stated by the *Dev's* that Tera WILL have PvE servers.  Thats what I was speaking of. The rest is speculation. For all we know NCsoft is making this up to damage some of their competition.  It would hardly be the first time that some corp pulled that stunt. 

Indeed, the sneak peek was a full PvE experience. There was no forced PvP at all and the only thing you could do was either duels or concensual 10vs10 group duels. And of course there are battlegrounds, but these were disabled for the sneak peek.

Now, the PvP servers presented this weekend. From my limited experience, they resemble more of a Lineage 2 experience than a AoC PvP server. So you have random groups of reds attacking others while the "white" can band together and defend themselves. I'm not sure how this will work in the end game when powerful outlaw guilds will form, but I seem ot prefer this system over AoC's one.

INB4 WoW clone.

Seriously though, theres nothing original except for the combat in TERA, but when that combat is placed in the same context as what ive been doing over the last 7 years I say "NO THANKS".

Originally posted by Zylaxx

INB4 WoW clone.

 

 

Seriously though, theres nothing original except for the combat in TERA, but when that combat is placed in the same context as what ive been doing over the last 7 years I say "NO THANKS".

nothing original is kind of harsh.  theres a political system, and although they havent said a whole about it, what they have said seems to be an interesting and original idea.   the glyph sytem is kind of original, it tweeks the talent tree system ive seen in many games and brings  something new to the table.  you were flaming tera in another thread, and while i appreciate youre stance on not liking the game.  please dont blantanly say something is not original if you dont know that much about it.

Originally posted by brody71

Originally posted by Zylaxx

INB4 WoW clone.

 

 

Seriously though, theres nothing original except for the combat in TERA, but when that combat is placed in the same context as what ive been doing over the last 7 years I say "NO THANKS".

nothing original is kind of harsh.  theres a political system, and although they havent said a whole about it, what they have said seems to be an interesting and original idea.   the glyph sytem is kind of original, it tweeks the talent tree system ive seen in many games and brings  something new to the table.  you were flaming tera in another thread, and while i appreciate youre stance on not liking the game.  please dont blantanly say something is not original if you dont know that much about it.

I've been looking for info as to what the point of it is (the political system) haven't come up with much, aside from it's description. I mean this to say Tera looks to be yet another gear grinder, most of their updates I've read seem to focus on dungeons, and PVE content.. all giving more tokens for more gear, IMO this is a big part of what kills any MMO for western PVPers, as usually the cost of entry is long PVE grinds, it can be a tiresome barrier to reach for those who only like to PVP.

Any info would be appreciated.

From what little I have seen you can recommend a player or a guild via right clicking on a player. How this adds up to make somebody a panarch I have no idea.

It looks like a no go for me too.

The game has a lot of pros and cons but unfortunately for me the cons outweight the pros.

The last straw was actually one of the combat features, the combo system.

Why oh why did they assign a single button (spacebar) for activating all combos AND gave it bonus dmg when you use it?

I'll try to explain  for those that haven't played the game.

You have skills on your bar 1-5 for example like every other MMO.

When you use a skill the game 'suggests' a follow up skill (a flashing icon of the skill appears on your screen, ala AION) except that instead of using the appropriate hotkey you can just click spacebar for the skill to fire.

Also, there is a bonus damage added to the move.

So basically, if you want to maximize your dps you need to follow these 'suggestions' and use the skills that game dictates instead of figuring out your own rotation, AND you use  a single button to do so...

So you end up fighting with 3 buttons total, attack (left mouse), dodge/block (right mouse) and everything else (spacebar).

Player-skill based combat my ass...

Everyone is clicking same 3 buttons in both PVE and PVP no need to get creative, the game makes the best dps choices for you...

This and the ultra easy PVE is taking hand holding and Ez-mode gaming  to a whole new level and makes the game a massive snoozefest  :(

EDIT: here´s a link of a video that was posted yesterday, it explains the combo system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLIET2Gs8t8&feature=plcp&context=C35a1501UDOEgsToPDskLnuoX7TwDkRZ4oDLlZ7TQe

You realise you can make your own combos right? And also assign the combo key to whatever key you wish?

Also the bonus is in speed of activation, not damage.

Originally posted by Distopia

Originally posted by brody71

Originally posted by Zylaxx

INB4 WoW clone.

 

 

Seriously though, theres nothing original except for the combat in TERA, but when that combat is placed in the same context as what ive been doing over the last 7 years I say "NO THANKS".

nothing original is kind of harsh.  theres a political system, and although they havent said a whole about it, what they have said seems to be an interesting and original idea.   the glyph sytem is kind of original, it tweeks the talent tree system ive seen in many games and brings  something new to the table.  you were flaming tera in another thread, and while i appreciate youre stance on not liking the game.  please dont blantanly say something is not original if you dont know that much about it.

I've been looking for info as to what the point of it is (the political system) haven't come up with much, aside from it's description. I mean this to say Tera looks to be yet another gear grinder, most of their updates I've read seem to focus on dungeons, and PVE content.. all giving more tokens for more gear, IMO this is a big part of what kills any MMO for western PVPers, as usually the cost of entry is long PVE grinds, it can be a tiresome barrier to reach for those who only like to PVP.

Any info would be appreciated.

from what i understand, tera failed in korea cause its more of a pvp game(or at least was at launch).  when it launced in korea there was little or no pve content.  so most of the updates they have done have been focused on pve.  yes i would agree tera looks like it will be somewhat a gear grinder/treadmill but i dont know for sure.  from what i can tell, you will be able to get gear  thru either pvp or pve and i dont think there is a pvp stat like resiliance(in wow).

as far as the political system, we dont know a whole lot.  i think it only recently got put into place in korea although i could be wrong.  players on a pve server  will elect guild leaders into power.  players on a pvp server will compete thru bg's for the right to be the elected official. 

here is there NA website   http://tera.enmasse.com/

Actually from my understanding, one continent is ruled by the PvE panarch and the other by the PvP one in both types of servers.

Originally posted by Xasapis

You realise you can make your own combos right? And also assign the combo key to whatever key you wish?

Also the bonus is in speed of activation, not damage.

Speed of activation translates to higher dps and from the looks of that busquit video of a high level warrior it does add damage.

Also, the fact that I can make combos myself doesn't change much, I still use only 3 buttons in combat and  I shouldn't improvise and stray from it if I want to maximize my dps..

Originally posted by Vesavius

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by Vesavius

Originally posted by jusomdude

I'm having a hard time getting excited about any MMO I know of coming out. Action combat is a step up, but not really something to make me buy a game.

 

Have you tried TERA yet though?

The combat actually does make a big difference... it's a lot more fun as a game then, say, SWTOR overall IMO.

Combat in TERA is great. It's much, much more enjoyable than most MMO I have ever played. But combat is only one part of an MMO.

If TERA was a 3rd person action game with PvP and didn't have a subscription fee, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. But because it is an MMORPG, I have to consider the quality of other features that make these games MMORPGs. As it is now, TERA is lacking in almost everything except for combat and the graphics.

If the game didn't require a subscription fee, I'd probably buy it. As it is though, I just do not see anything about TERA that would justify a subscription fee. Especially when you compare it to soon to be released GW2, with all it's features and no subscription fee.

 

That's a valid PoV.

I would happily pay a sub myself for it, but I get where your coming from. The sub just dosen't make a difference to me enough to influence my choice of game tbh.

My only barrier to playing this game is the timing... I never start a MMORPG with the intention of playing for a month or two, I always invest in them with the hope they will last me for a year plus. Now, this obviously always dosen't work out but thats the hope. I just can't get mentally invested in a MMO that I know for sure I will be playing for a short while, and that makes it in this case not worth the box cost.

 

Yes. I know how that goes. But I seriously suspect that we aren't going to see Guild Wars 2 until fall at the soonest.  More likely Nov-Dec.  Right now I'm in between games. After eight 85's, I'm taking a break from WoW, until MoP is out.  I tried SWToR and ran a trooper up to 50.  But the game is just too flawed for my taste.  I have two 50's in Rift (warrior and rogue), and I'm not really interested in going back right now. 

I've tried several Asian grinder games, but before I even hit level 20, I started asking myself what I was doing there (not a good sign).  Out side of Tera, nothing really looks all that interesting.  I think I'll just go play some FPS games for awhile. 

The new Tribes game looks entertaining.  What I'm really looking forward to is FireFall, but who knows when they will ever get out of their Gmail type beta? It was cute "once" for gmail, but now that approach is just annoying. 

Originally posted by Benjola

Originally posted by Xasapis

You realise you can make your own combos right? And also assign the combo key to whatever key you wish?

Also the bonus is in speed of activation, not damage.

Speed of activation translates to higher dps and from the looks of that busquit video of a high level warrior it does add damage.

Also, the fact that I can make combos myself doesn't change much, I still use only 3 buttons in combat and  I shouldn't improvise and stray from it if I want to maximize my dps..

Id love to see people that claim TERA takes so much more skill than a tab target game try to play a feral druid during WotLK.  1 2 3 4 my ass.

Originally posted by William12

I didn't like it.  Feels like an MMO that was made 7 years ago honestly.

oh for a second there i thought i was in the SWTOR forums again..

I'm currently in the 3535 hour que to play tera on the pvp server.

Tera is a good game. but the new player questing area doesn't really do the game justice.  Yes, the combat is fun, and a bit hard to get down at first for those used to targeting hotkey spam.

The graphics/aesthetics are great, wayyyyyyy better then failwars: fails of the fail republic.

The UI is fully customizable and has every little thing a mmo in this decade should have at launch unlike failwars. sorry, i really hate swtor, ill stop picking on it now lol.

The set back? You fight the same shit all the way through noob land.  It really just makes you get bored very fast.  But I'm gonna stick through it cause I wanna pvp and see the cool mobs/bosses ahead.

Tera is a better game then the last mmo that just launched.  Just doesn't have super spiffy cutscenes every 3 seconds

Originally posted by Wraithone

Originally posted by Vesavius

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by Vesavius

Originally posted by jusomdude

I'm having a hard time getting excited about any MMO I know of coming out. Action combat is a step up, but not really something to make me buy a game.

 

Have you tried TERA yet though?

The combat actually does make a big difference... it's a lot more fun as a game then, say, SWTOR overall IMO.

Combat in TERA is great. It's much, much more enjoyable than most MMO I have ever played. But combat is only one part of an MMO.

If TERA was a 3rd person action game with PvP and didn't have a subscription fee, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. But because it is an MMORPG, I have to consider the quality of other features that make these games MMORPGs. As it is now, TERA is lacking in almost everything except for combat and the graphics.

If the game didn't require a subscription fee, I'd probably buy it. As it is though, I just do not see anything about TERA that would justify a subscription fee. Especially when you compare it to soon to be released GW2, with all it's features and no subscription fee.

 

That's a valid PoV.

I would happily pay a sub myself for it, but I get where your coming from. The sub just dosen't make a difference to me enough to influence my choice of game tbh.

My only barrier to playing this game is the timing... I never start a MMORPG with the intention of playing for a month or two, I always invest in them with the hope they will last me for a year plus. Now, this obviously always dosen't work out but thats the hope. I just can't get mentally invested in a MMO that I know for sure I will be playing for a short while, and that makes it in this case not worth the box cost.

 

Yes. I know how that goes. But I seriously suspect that we aren't going to see Guild Wars 2 until fall at the soonest.  More likely Nov-Dec.  Right now I'm in between games. After eight 85's, I'm taking a break from WoW, until MoP is out.  I tried SWToR and ran a trooper up to 50.  But the game is just too flawed for my taste.  I have two 50's in Rift (warrior and rogue), and I'm not really interested in going back right now. 

I've tried several Asian grinder games, but before I even hit level 20, I started asking myself what I was doing there (not a good sign).  Out side of Tera, nothing really looks all that interesting.  I think I'll just go play some FPS games for awhile. 

The new Tribes game looks entertaining.  What I'm really waiting forward to is FireFall, but who knows when they will ever get out of their Gmail type beta? It was cute "once" for gmail, but now that approach is just annoying. 

Maybe your right about GW2, but I think we will know more about it either way by the time TERA goes live in May.

If by that time they tell me that GW2 is 4-5 months off I would probably give TERA a play. Like I say, i enjoy the game.

If GW2 is 1-3 months off by the time May rolls by though... I will stick in Aion and wait it out.

Played the beta, hated the look, atmosphere, child like races in skimpy clothes running around with huge weapons. I don't mind questing but it was same thing go kill 'x' and collect 'y'. Didn't even try to spice it up. Combat was fun but so it was in AOC and DCUO. But sadly only one feature isn't enough to carry the whole game.

It is below average for me. So i will just pass and wait for GW2 and TSW.

I still suggest playing this game with a conntroller, it feels a bit more different then combat-wise.

I may have the same problem as the OP though: Borderlands 2 was announced for April a long time ago, and me and my friends planned to play this.

Originally posted by brody71

I've been looking for info as to what the point of it is (the political system) haven't come up with much, aside from it's description. I mean this to say Tera looks to be yet another gear grinder, most of their updates I've read seem to focus on dungeons, and PVE content.. all giving more tokens for more gear, IMO this is a big part of what kills any MMO for western PVPers, as usually the cost of entry is long PVE grinds, it can be a tiresome barrier to reach for those who only like to PVP.

Any info would be appreciated.

from what i understand, tera failed in korea cause its more of a pvp game(or at least was at launch).  when it launced in korea there was little or no pve content.  so most of the updates they have done have been focused on pve.  yes i would agree tera looks like it will be somewhat a gear grinder/treadmill but i dont know for sure.  from what i can tell, you will be able to get gear  thru either pvp or pve and i dont think there is a pvp stat like resiliance(in wow).

 

as far as the political system, we dont know a whole lot.  i think it only recently got put into place in korea although i could be wrong.  players on a pve server  will elect guild leaders into power.  players on a pvp server will compete thru bg's for the right to be the elected official. 

here is there NA website   http://tera.enmasse.com/

 

Thanks for the reply, I'll keep an eye out for more details on the community side of things.

Originally posted by teakbois

Originally posted by Vorthanion

but I'm getting really tired of people like you labeling our preferred style of combat and questing and story as boring.  You don't like it, fine, but don't word it in such a way as to put down those who do.  

 

They dont even realize they are the minority I think.  IF I want more actiony combat without tab targeting Ill go play a FPS.  I think it doesnt mesh well with the MMORPG style, because MMORPGs are often played for long blocks of time and it will go from fun to tedious.  Unless the enemy AI in TERA is amazing, its going to turn into mindless combat for the majority once you learn the enemy's moves and patterns.

You mean just like in Demon Souls and Dark Souls? lol

Originally posted by Benjola

Originally posted by Xasapis

You realise you can make your own combos right? And also assign the combo key to whatever key you wish?

Also the bonus is in speed of activation, not damage.

Speed of activation translates to higher dps and from the looks of that busquit video of a high level warrior it does add damage.

Also, the fact that I can make combos myself doesn't change much, I still use only 3 buttons in combat and  I shouldn't improvise and stray from it if I want to maximize my dps..

I admit I haven't played Tera yet, when you explain it like that, it sounds really boring. I was always curious how the control system actually worked in its entirety with the combo system.

Seems like once I learn the monsters attack tells, the game might get boring if all i am doing is dodging and spamming normal attack and preset attack combos when I have an opening.

But I will likely give this game a try regardless just because I don't like to hate on something and neglect it untill I try it out for myself.