so far all claims from asian games/developers to have their game "WESTERNIZED" have been empty promises, in reality they did next to nothing for the game, it had the beyond obvious asian look and feel and classic eastern mechanics, and the game failed to capture western players past the initial box sale out of curiosity.

IMO it will boil down to just that. how non-asian-ish the game is, in other words, how "westernized" the game actually is, instead of how the CEOs claim it to be.

while its hard to predict anything without having put my hands on the game, I'll go with the safe bet (safe because past history backs me here 100%) that the game will be a purely asian game with all that represents, barely anything done to appease the western audience, and will fall flat on its face.

I can only hope that it enjoys a very, very modest success. It seems any game that gets hyped up and popular ends up being the stomping grounds of the worst of MMO players.

Originally posted by Celcius

Asian themed games have never done well in the west really. FF11 may be the only exception to this rule, but honestly I think most of the people who played that game were in the east anyways. This is why I suspect it will not do well here and the same goes for Tera. 

Whether you want to believe it or not, MapleStory is huge in the "west". The game has grown tremendously over the past 7 years.

Originally posted by MMOExposed

I was kind of interesting in AA at first, but now I am more skeptical about it.

Why is it that they cant find a NA Publisher, if its as good as people are hyping it up to be?

something seem fishy.

But in your opinion, how well do you believe Archeage will be in the west?

Edit: this was meant to be in the AA forum. my mistake,.

You make way too many threads Exposed, LOL.

I do not believe this game will do well at all.  It is too Asian for the West, and its pretty obvious that Asian games do not fare well over here.  I would play AA only if it was stripped down, re-coded, added new western Artwork and given complete and total westernization.  As it stands now I will never play an Asian game no matter how or what it is.  AA could be the greatest sandbox (and I am a fan) but i'll never know because I refuse to play an Asian game.

I have played a bit of archeage luckily from a uni freind who is from south korea, granted i only played for an hour or so but I will say from that short play time I got a pretty good feel for the game.

I honestly am doubtful that the asian styling of the game will go down well here, I certainly kept asking myself hmmm will this work, and honestly I don' t really think it will. It might look like a small issue on the surface but really this is a game people will look at playing for the foreseeable future and something like this will end up getting to people, I mean it started getting to me after my short play time. Granted this is just me people may be more willing to accept the stlying than I was.

The game itself in terms of gameplay is pretty fun, nothing extradoniary but it is fun nonetheless, the spell effects were really nice to look at and combat was pretty responsive, aside from the slightly annoying gcd.

I won't really say much more as I only played for a short amount of time. Do I think archeage will be the second coming of jesus? No. Do I think it will do well here? Yes but I don't imagine it to be the roaring success people think it will be, mostly down to the style of the game and the linearity of the early levels and questing.

To be honest i hope the game does ok. Ok in the sence that i would rather have 100,000 like minded gamers playing on a few servers then 500,000 rpg co-op wannabe douch bags running around bitching about this and that.

I dont want gamers in AA that think Rift and WoW (what wow has become) are the benchmark for what an MMO should be. Im already not happy that they added the hand holding quest marker to the game. Those little arrows at the base of your toon that point the way to quest location.

So yeah. I hope it does good enough to be considered a succeses But doesent draw enough idiots to it that add there 2 sence and changes the game into something theamparkish.

Originally posted by dr4ygon

I have played a bit of archeage luckily from a uni freind who is from south korea, granted i only played for an hour or so but I will say from that short play time I got a pretty good feel for the game.

I honestly am doubtful that the asian styling of the game will go down well here, I certainly kept asking myself hmmm will this work, and honestly I don' t really think it will. It might look like a small issue on the surface but really this is a game people will look at playing for the foreseeable future and something like this will end up getting to people, I mean it started getting to me after my short play time. Granted this is just me people may be more willing to accept the stlying than I was.

The game itself in terms of gameplay is pretty fun, nothing extradoniary but it is fun nonetheless, the spell effects were really nice to look at and combat was pretty responsive, aside from the slightly annoying gcd.

I won't really say much more as I only played for a short amount of time. Do I think archeage will be the second coming of jesus? No. Do I think it will do well here? Yes but I don't imagine it to be the roaring success people think it will be, mostly down to the style of the game and the linearity of the early levels and questing.

Not for nothing but Asian "style" is making a huge impact on US daily life. In all aspects of there culture. But it is a mtter of taste and if the Asian flair isent your cup of tea then thats fine. There are plenty of other games that you can play. I happen to love Asian theamed anything. From home decore to art style.

But there are some out there that love that picket fence, countrey cozy home decor. I myself hate that style so i dont go out buying tin stars to nail to the outside of my house or birdhouse borrders to put up in my kitchen. So if you cant even get past the art style of AA then just dont even buy the game to see what its about. Unless you have an open mind.

Originally posted by kantseeme

Originally posted by dr4ygon

I have played a bit of archeage luckily from a uni freind who is from south korea, granted i only played for an hour or so but I will say from that short play time I got a pretty good feel for the game.

I honestly am doubtful that the asian styling of the game will go down well here, I certainly kept asking myself hmmm will this work, and honestly I don' t really think it will. It might look like a small issue on the surface but really this is a game people will look at playing for the foreseeable future and something like this will end up getting to people, I mean it started getting to me after my short play time. Granted this is just me people may be more willing to accept the stlying than I was.

The game itself in terms of gameplay is pretty fun, nothing extradoniary but it is fun nonetheless, the spell effects were really nice to look at and combat was pretty responsive, aside from the slightly annoying gcd.

I won't really say much more as I only played for a short amount of time. Do I think archeage will be the second coming of jesus? No. Do I think it will do well here? Yes but I don't imagine it to be the roaring success people think it will be, mostly down to the style of the game and the linearity of the early levels and questing.

Not for nothing but Asian "style" is making a huge impact on US daily life. In all aspects of there culture. But it is a mtter of taste and if the Asian flair isent your cup of tea then thats fine. There are plenty of other games that you can play. I happen to love Asian theamed anything. From home decore to art style.

 

But there are some out there that love that picket fence, countrey cozy home decor. I myself hate that style so i dont go out buying tin stars to nail to the outside of my house or birdhouse borrders to put up in my kitchen. So if you cant even get past the art style of AA then just dont even buy the game to see what its about. Unless you have an open mind.

I did say in my post that it may just be me and other people may take more to the asian style than I have.

I have nothing against asian style games they just don't work  for me. Not to say I would wish archeage does badly, but I have doubts about it being a big success here. If I'm proved wrong I will happily accept that.

Originally posted by dr4ygon

Originally posted by kantseeme

Originally posted by dr4ygon

I have played a bit of archeage luckily from a uni freind who is from south korea, granted i only played for an hour or so but I will say from that short play time I got a pretty good feel for the game.

I honestly am doubtful that the asian styling of the game will go down well here, I certainly kept asking myself hmmm will this work, and honestly I don' t really think it will. It might look like a small issue on the surface but really this is a game people will look at playing for the foreseeable future and something like this will end up getting to people, I mean it started getting to me after my short play time. Granted this is just me people may be more willing to accept the stlying than I was.

The game itself in terms of gameplay is pretty fun, nothing extradoniary but it is fun nonetheless, the spell effects were really nice to look at and combat was pretty responsive, aside from the slightly annoying gcd.

I won't really say much more as I only played for a short amount of time. Do I think archeage will be the second coming of jesus? No. Do I think it will do well here? Yes but I don't imagine it to be the roaring success people think it will be, mostly down to the style of the game and the linearity of the early levels and questing.

Not for nothing but Asian "style" is making a huge impact on US daily life. In all aspects of there culture. But it is a mtter of taste and if the Asian flair isent your cup of tea then thats fine. There are plenty of other games that you can play. I happen to love Asian theamed anything. From home decore to art style.

 

But there are some out there that love that picket fence, country cozy home decor. I myself hate that style so i dont go out buying tin stars to nail to the outside of my house or birdhouse borrders to put up in my kitchen. So if you cant even get past the art style of AA then just dont even buy the game to see what its about. Unless you have an open mind.

I did say in my post that it may just be me and other people may take more to the asian style than I have.

I have nothing against asian style games they just don't work  for me. Not to say I would wish archeage does badly, but I have doubts about it being a big success here. If I'm proved wrong I will happily accept that.

No im not saying you would wish the game ill will in fact i was agreeing with you. Everyone has different tastes so there should be games that fit that taste. from theams to sands from west to east. If its not for you thats cool.

For my part, it would just be nice to see a decently developed game with some of the sandbox elements which are absent in so many new games.

Archeage probably can't find a publisher in the west for the same reason that no AAA sandbox titles can get developed in the west.   It seems like investors and others with $ have convinced themselves that anything with the word "sandbox" in it has to be niche, and will never have mass appeal.

Originally posted by Creslin321

Archeage probably can't find a publisher in the west for the same reason that no AAA sandbox titles can get developed in the west.   It seems like investors and others with $ have convinced themselves that anything with the word "sandbox" in it has to be niche, and will never have mass appeal.

We dont know that they "cant" find a publisher for AA. For all we know they have people beating down there door to publish this game in the west. At the moment all we can do is speculate as to why there as been no annoucment of a western publisher. They may have one right now but just hasent made the info public. Who knows.

I actually think it's just hybrid enough to pull in fans from both sides ...

Who doesn't like a slide in a sandbox?

On average I think it will do as well as Aion did.

I would love to have a game like AA be very successful but I have my doubts.

I would say to expect something along the lines of  maybe Vanguard... a lot of performance issues at launce, niche market so the smaller playerbase if lost can leave the game empty. I really hope that I am wrong and the game is a great success!

Is this game sandbox?

ArcheAge reminds me of Lego, it's not a traditional MMO, it's more a siege / castle warfare game. It's not my thing and I don't think Western players would like this type of Lego combat, on the other hand they liked Minecraft, so maybe.

Originally posted by gekkothegrey

Is this game sandbox?

It's a PVP castle siege / ship / warfare game with battlegrounds from what I understand. If you consider that sandbox debatable I guess.

Originally posted by CalmOceans

ArcheAge reminds me of Lego, it's not a traditional MMO, it's more a siege / castle warfare game. It's not my thing and I don't think Western players would like this type of Lego combat, on the other hand they liked Minecraft, so maybe.

What do you mean by lego? You mean like too much building of stuff?

to the people claiming its too asian looking,....please provide me with a SS of anything anime looking? outside of the 1 race of humans that is designed to look like asians?

I've watched almost every video out there, even the ones in korean and russian...looks pretty "western" to me.

I dont see swords 4 times the size of the avatar, I dont see characters with eyes 3 times as big as they should be, I dont see characters with nothing but chiseled sharp angles for facial features.

I dont see silver and gold armor so bright i can barely see, i dont see  a major lack of shadowing and grit within the armors themselves. i dont see bewbs and abs showing on every armor set. I dont see spiked hair on every male.

I dont see it

to the guy who doubts the game because he hasnt seen any combat vids....my god man, do you know anything about the game? 99% of the vids are combat related. have you even tried?

Im the first one to avoid asian looking and themed games. I hate the look of aion and final fantasy. arche age looks nothing like them