1. Regnum Online (aka Realms Online)(FTP) has good pvp if you dont mind the graphics

2. Runes of Magic (FTP) is also good pvp but end game requires cash items

3. Pandora Saga (FTP) PvP, also heavy on cash shop, decent game

4. Fly for Fun (aka FLYFF) (FTP) not bad .. has pvp server

If you want PvP or RvR done right I would go with Dark Age of Camelot but its not FTP

Try Kabod Online. I don't know much about it except the "controversy" I read when the game was first being localized (there's nudity and armor gradually breaks off as you are fighting) so I don't know if it's actually any good. But a friend of mine is really enjoying herself in the game, has been trying to get me to play, but open PvP really isn't my thing.

LOTRO or DDO, though I like Champions Online.

conqueronline is very populated, but it has overpowered cash shop and you can P2W which they call "bulking" and its actually only way you will be good in higher level PVP, the game is a very small download and you can get enlightenments from other players to get instant levels.

free gear from quests/begginer bag to save you hunting and buying your own, but you do have to upgrade it yourself or save up and buy gear at higher levels.

PVP is the only reason conqueronline still has players, there is only 2 towns in the game which are safe, every other town or zone is pretty much PVP.

10 PK points for killing a random player, 5 for killing a enemy guild member, 30 PK points+ your redname and can lose your gear, 100 PK points+ your blackname and can be sent to jail

Fallen Earth has nice PVP, but it barely happens at low lvl. Getting to max lvl in Fallen Earth is not really fast, so you really need to like PVE in Fallen Earth.

DCUO has fun combat, but I never tried PVP in that game. But with the combat system I can imagine that its fun.

Originally posted by Odysses

FTP, I would have to say LoTRO.  Pre SWToR launching, it was the 2nd highest played western MMO according to the Nielsen ratings. PvP wise that is hit or miss.  Some love Pvmp, some hate it.

i think lotro is about PvE and OP wants good PvP. Ive heard from too many people (even Lotro fans) that Lotro has no good PvP whatsoever (idk about it cos i never pvped in lotro) just  echoing here

Originally posted by dweetybyrd

SWTOR aint happenening, looking for something new. Anyone have a recommendation for a great F2P (or even P2P) MMO with good PvP?

Not opposed to paying, just looking for a game that will be around for a while with good PvP and population.

 

Thanks!

Aika is a nice F2P game and has 5 factions PvP  with up to 1k vs 1k battles

If you want PVP from a Free To Play mmo then try Lineage 2.

Thanks for all the reccomendations, there arew actually quite a few games I have never played before. I just installed STO.. quit after launch, still the same game, whats next!!

Originally posted by rojo6934

Aika is a nice F2P game and has 5 factions PvP  with up to 1k vs 1k battles

I was interested enough to want to try that out, but once I launched the game it updated, then kept crashing on the loading screen where the background is a sort of red tile effect with a line of gold showing loading progress.  It looked like it was disconnecting my Internet connection every time it crashed, and then the game exited itself somehow.  I deleted it, unplayed, after a couple of days of this.  :(

DCUO and then probably Dragons Quest.

Originally posted by Dibdabs

Originally posted by rojo6934

Aika is a nice F2P game and has 5 factions PvP  with up to 1k vs 1k battles

I was interested enough to want to try that out, but once I launched the game it updated, then kept crashing on the loading screen where the background is a sort of red tile effect with a line of gold showing loading progress.  It looked like it was disconnecting my Internet connection every time it crashed, and then the game exited itself somehow.  I deleted it, unplayed, after a couple of days of this.  :(

Try Last Chaos for stability and performance, you will be happy with Aika :)

Anyways, Aika was off-putting for me because they just plastered some form of "skill tree" on top of a classic lineage type game.

Its still one of the better options, even if i read it is pay2win, there are much worse cases, like outspark games, which are pay2progress (cashshop only items much more integral in the game, for example you get a chest from a lv30 free gift which requires a cashshop key to open, crafting requires cash shop currency for even mid-tier recipes ON TOP of materials).

Flame on!

:)

rappelz is good also, i last played it over 2 months ago and it was populated still, the pvp is fairly good

best and most populated in the same sentence... hmmm...