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cinos Elite Member Joined: 8/22/05 Posts: 628	2/09/12 4:44:46 AM#41 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Sector13 *Originally posted by Mannish* *Originally posted by Maki2* Originally posted by 77lolmac77 Lets see if people attack these numbers the way Bioware's were. Wait, NCsoft is making Guild Wars 2... These numbers are fact, nothing to see here ArenaNet is making Guild Wars 2. ArenaNet is a NC Soft Company Bioware is a EA company but people don't say SWTOR or Mass Effect was made by EA. Damn, you beat me to it. :p
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tom_gore Apprentice Member Joined: 2/27/09 Posts: 482	2/09/12 5:19:34 AM#42 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) The future is F2P or B2P. Resistance is futile.
Reizla Hard Core Member Joined: 12/09/08 Posts: 1858 Afraid of the Goddess of Destruction	2/09/12 5:34:01 AM#43 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Jabas "NCSoft has almost quadrupled its revenue in two months" Im happy for you NCSoft, now how about spend some part of this "revenue" in "bot fight" ? Thanks in advance... /agree Good thing, in a few months we have TERA. I've already quited Lineage II because of the ENORMOUS amount of bots in-game and playing WoW for the moment (when TERA servers are not up). Hell, even WoW gives a better gaming experience now than Lineage II since it went Free4Bots ...uhm... Free2Play Pages from Sages
Deron_Barak Elite Member Joined: 3/14/06 Posts: 1134	2/09/12 5:36:44 AM#44 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by tom_gore The future is F2P or B2P. Resistance is futile. For older/struggling games this is correct because the market is flooded with decent MMOs. Both a great time and a frustrating time to be an MMO gamer with all the game hoping, heh.
Mannish Hard Core Member Joined: 9/03/08 Posts: 2530 Playing Lineage 2 Waiting for Lineage 3	2/09/12 8:23:23 AM#45 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Sector13 *Originally posted by Mannish* *Originally posted by Maki2* Originally posted by 77lolmac77 Lets see if people attack these numbers the way Bioware's were. Wait, NCsoft is making Guild Wars 2... These numbers are fact, nothing to see here ArenaNet is making Guild Wars 2. ArenaNet is a NC Soft Company Bioware is a EA company but people don't say SWTOR or Mass Effect was made by EA. Does not make a difference what people say. Facts are facts regardless of whether you like them or not. EA has control of what Bioware does now just like NC Soft has control of what Arena Net does. Copmanys like EA and NC Soft are not just publishers for companys like Arena Net and Bioware. This is all I am saying so tell me what you are saying because I dont see nonthing from your statement. AMD FX-4100 Zambezi (OC at 4.2GHZ ATM) ASRock 990FX Extreme 3 G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB DDR3 ATI Radeon 3800 (Upgrade Soon) Artic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 Rosewill 600 Watt Power Supply Cooler Master CM Storm Series Trooper
Mannish Hard Core Member Joined: 9/03/08 Posts: 2530 Playing Lineage 2 Waiting for Lineage 3	2/09/12 8:24:10 AM#46 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by cinos *Originally posted by Sector13* *Originally posted by Mannish* *Originally posted by Maki2* Originally posted by 77lolmac77 Lets see if people attack these numbers the way Bioware's were. Wait, NCsoft is making Guild Wars 2... These numbers are fact, nothing to see here ArenaNet is making Guild Wars 2. ArenaNet is a NC Soft Company Bioware is a EA company but people don't say SWTOR or Mass Effect was made by EA. Damn, you beat me to it. :p Beat you to what? Plz explain because I want to hear it. AMD FX-4100 Zambezi (OC at 4.2GHZ ATM) ASRock 990FX Extreme 3 G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB DDR3 ATI Radeon 3800 (Upgrade Soon) Artic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 Rosewill 600 Watt Power Supply Cooler Master CM Storm Series Trooper
zhindetz Novice Member Joined: 10/31/07 Posts: 2 The cake is a lie	2/10/12 5:15:11 AM#47 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Bring Tabula Rasa back!
Kyleran Elite Member Joined: 9/13/06 Posts: 14598 A simple truth-"What people want and what is good for an mmo is not always the same thing"-mrw0lf	2/10/12 5:24:59 AM#48 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Mannish *Originally posted by cinos* *Originally posted by Sector13* *Originally posted by Mannish* ArenaNet is making Guild Wars 2. ArenaNet is a NC Soft Company Bioware is a EA company but people don't say SWTOR or Mass Effect was made by EA. Damn, you beat me to it. :p Beat you to what? Plz explain because I want to hear it. Some people think (erroneously) that the controlling parent has zero say in what goes into the games development, which is not true. Take one look at SWTOR and you can almost point to the EA inspired flaws that I think Bioware would have avoided had they been totally autonomous. Same thing will happen in GW2, NCSoft gave free reign to developers before and it didn't turn out well, they'll be making sure their investment in GW2 goes to their satisfaction. Time will tell whether that influence will be largely posititve or negative. "Just because you aren't paying doesn't mean it's not PTW." - Amaranthar Bitter Vet ™ since 2006 "This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
itchmon Hard Core Member Joined: 1/21/07 Posts: 674	2/10/12 5:35:31 AM#49 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Kyleran Some people think (erroneously) that the controlling parent has zero say in what goes into the games development, which is not true. Take one look at SWTOR and you can almost point to the EA inspired flaws that I think Bioware would have avoided had they been totally autonomous. Same thing will happen in GW2, NCSoft gave free reign to developers before and it didn't turn out well, they'll be making sure their investment in GW2 goes to their satisfaction. Time will tell whether that influence will be largely posititve or negative. it really is a crap-shoot to me with NCsoft; i look at them and think, they were the developers of l2 and producers of CoH which are great games, but they are also the team that stood to one side and let bots and afk macroers cripple l2. out of all the major mmo corporations I have the most "love-hate" relationship with ncsoft; even more than with ccp..... Currently Playing EQ2, TERA Liked but retired: EQ1,SWTOR, FFXI, WoW, POTBS, Aion, L2, Eve, Rift, atlantica, Darkfall, though i felt it needed tweaks Looking forward to: World of Darkness, TERA, Gw2, Titan Recommendation of a game you probably haven't tried: POTBS, Atlantica, L2
Loktofeit Elite Member Joined: 1/13/10 Posts: 4889	2/10/12 6:21:21 AM#50 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Istafein *Originally posted by MMOGamer71* *Originally posted by Aethaeryn* *Originally posted by Zekiah* Get started on your 'truly free' journey NCSoft has almost quadrupled its revenue in two months I'm sorry, truly what again? You are free to spend the way you want! That is true freedom! ^ Yeah, heaven forbid if someone turns a profit nowadays. Amen, man.^ I think it's great. People like to spend money the way they like instead of being tied to a subscription, and this kinda shows that. I'm happy to see L2 doing well! Same here. A company makes a game people want to play with a business model that fits how poeple want to pay for their games. In most places that's considered a good thing. Sandpark: The MMO gamer's way to say "I have no clue what I am talking about."
TyvolusNext Advanced Member Joined: 1/27/12 Posts: 170	2/10/12 8:29:51 AM#51 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Loktofeit *Originally posted by Istafein* *Originally posted by MMOGamer71* *Originally posted by Aethaeryn* *Originally posted by Zekiah* Get started on your 'truly free' journey NCSoft has almost quadrupled its revenue in two months I'm sorry, truly what again? You are free to spend the way you want! That is true freedom! ^ Yeah, heaven forbid if someone turns a profit nowadays. Amen, man.^ I think it's great. People like to spend money the way they like instead of being tied to a subscription, and this kinda shows that. I'm happy to see L2 doing well! Same here. A company makes a game people want to play with a business model that fits how poeple want to pay for their games. In most places that's considered a good thing. exactly. and this is the best F2P model, IMO. If it is very successful, then hopefully other companies try to mirror it. Most F2P is anything other then Free and you are better off just paying the $15 -- see any SOE "F2P title.