VO is the next step in MMO evolution . There is no turning back from it . Its like going from MUD's to Everquest in 1999.  The quality of the quests are irrelevant IMO . A good quest will look better in a cinematic with voiceover than one in a block of text. A bad quest will also look better in a cinematic with voiceover than a bad quest in a block of text.

I would also much prefer that everyquest (hehe) is VO'd and I had the option to skip through when I want than have to skip through lame blocks of test again.

The only thing I don't want to happen is them taking resources from other parts of the game so they can just keep making cinematics. As long as that doesn't happen cinematics with voiceover is the way to go.

Originally posted by Jason2444

After the 600th person telling me why i need to kill 10 droids, it got incredibly tedious 

Hahahaha ...

Exactly my point . In this game you actually bother to listen to 600 quest givers sending you to kill robots for whatever reason . In 8 years of MMO's I doubt I have read more than 10 whole quest texts. I have no idea why I kill the dragons I kill or do the zones I do in Everquest 2 , but I definetely know who the Voidwolf is .

An absolute waste of time and money.

Originally posted by Jason2444

After the 600th person telling me why i need to kill 10 droids, it got incredibly tedious 

I have never been asking by a quest giver to go kill 10 of anything in SWTOR.

When you go do a quest you may get a bonus if you kill X number of whatever but no quest has ever asked me to do that.

Originally posted by DaRoamer

Originally posted by Jason2444

After the 600th person telling me why i need to kill 10 droids, it got incredibly tedious 

I have never been asking by a quest giver to go kill 10 of anything in SWTOR.

When you go do a quest you may get a bonus if you kill X number of whatever but no quest has ever asked me to do that.

So true. Normally you are told how their soldiers are missing and wounded so could you check up on them and see if they're okay? Plus, kill whatever denizens laid their poor company to rest if they are found dead. Then you respond saying the normal, "Murder and Mayhem awaits!"

At which point your quest log updates saying 0/10 droids.

Yes because I listen to the quest/story. I got to the point in other MMO's that I didn't bother reading the quest, I skimmed the objectives and off I went. I actually like the voice over, it actually makes me give a damn.

Originally posted by Kyleran

Personally I would just like all the voice acted parts to be displayed 'word for word' on my screen with an option for me to skip the sound while the text remains.  I prefer reading rather than listening, and I really don't enjoy when aliens speak in a bunch of clicks and mumbles, give me my universal translator and have them speak English. 

Not sure if someone posted this in the earlier pages but you can just turn on subtitles and the conversation will be shown word for word and then you can spacebar the text

How do you make quests better than objective based?

Give me an answer to that and I'll conceed the point that gather/kill/collect/escort quests are a necessary evil in a quest based game.

Originally posted by dimmit77

VO is the next step in MMO evolution . There is no turning back from it . Its like going from MUD's to Everquest in 1999.  The quality of the quests are irrelevant IMO . A good quest will look better in a cinematic with voiceover than one in a block of text. A bad quest will also look better in a cinematic with voiceover than a bad quest in a block of text.

I would also much prefer that everyquest (hehe) is VO'd and I had the option to skip through when I want than have to skip through lame blocks of test again.

The only thing I don't want to happen is them taking resources from other parts of the game so they can just keep making cinematics. As long as that doesn't happen cinematics with voiceover is the way to go.

 

Voice over cinematics take resources to make.  Any game development studio works with a finite amount of resources.  Anything the studio does will "take resources" from anything else it does or could do.  The act of creating voice over cinematics will ALWAYS take resources from other parts of the game.

My biggest problem with voice over cinematics around every corner is how anti-social they are.  I'm on vent with my gaming buddies and I find myself getting irritated when they talk because they are talking over some quest NPC.  That's just wrong and completely "single player game-esque".  MMORPGs are supposed to encourage multiplayer social interaction.  Even when I group and we're all present for the voice over cinematic, I find myself wanting to make fun of the NPCs and the ridiculous responses we give, but it's hard because no one can really hear comments over the NPCs.

Of course not. I thought it was fluff that most people would skip through, and I still think that. Voice acting has a greater chance of taking away than adding. Reusing voice actors becomes annoying, and there are far less dialogue options due to having to voice everything.

The problem is that there are too many quests, the whole quest system is crap and should never have made it's way into MMO's. 

Just because there is dialogue doesn't make it less of a grind, it's still boring as fuck. I want a damned game not a milk-man simulator, cause they might aswell change all the objectives to pick up milk at A and deliver to B, rinse and repeat.

It's not an industry standard, to hell with you people. How miserable do you have to be to actually take this shit?

Originally posted by Sideras

The problem is that there are too many quests, the whole quest system is crap and should never have made it's way into MMO's. 

Just because there is dialogue doesn't make it less of a grind, it's still boring as fuck. I want a damned game not a milk-man simulator, cause they might aswell change all the objectives to pick up milk at A and deliver to B, rinse and repeat.

It's not an industry standard, to hell with you people. How miserable do you have to be to actually take this shit?

Pretty much. I am shocked at how people are enjoying SWTOR. Some people are playing it like a singleplayer game and saying it functions well that way. Well, I don't know any singleplayer games that charge me by the month. I also don't know any singleplayer games that pad out their quests as much as SWTOR does with useless tasks just to extend the gameplay. On top of that, the quests have no impact on the gameworld. Quest grinding is probably the worst feature to hit MMOs behind instancing.

Originally posted by Wickedjelly

Originally posted by DaRoamer

Originally posted by Jason2444

After the 600th person telling me why i need to kill 10 droids, it got incredibly tedious 

I have never been asking by a quest giver to go kill 10 of anything in SWTOR.

When you go do a quest you may get a bonus if you kill X number of whatever but no quest has ever asked me to do that.

So true. Normally you are told how their soldiers are missing and wounded so could you check up on them and see if they're okay? Plus, kill whatever denizens laid their poor company to rest if they are found dead. Then you respond saying the normal, "Murder and Mayhem awaits!"

At which point your quest log updates saying 0/10 droids.

So you're claiming it's a bait and switch?  Don't tell them we're sending them to kill 10 droids but we really are?

Eh, you're kind of stretching the truth there.  Very rarely does the quest just send you to a spot to "investigate" and then says "you're here! kill 10 of something!".  In fact I can't think of an example where exactly that happened, it certainly hasn't happened 600 times.  Most often the kill x whatever bonus comes up while you're doing another task.

I'm not saying many quest tasks are any less mundane but I was responding to the comment that he was tired of quest givers telling him to go kill 10 droids.  We're discussing the benefits of the voiced cutscenes, yes?

Originally posted by DaRoamer

Originally posted by Wickedjelly

Originally posted by DaRoamer

Originally posted by Jason2444

After the 600th person telling me why i need to kill 10 droids, it got incredibly tedious 

I have never been asking by a quest giver to go kill 10 of anything in SWTOR.

When you go do a quest you may get a bonus if you kill X number of whatever but no quest has ever asked me to do that.

So true. Normally you are told how their soldiers are missing and wounded so could you check up on them and see if they're okay? Plus, kill whatever denizens laid their poor company to rest if they are found dead. Then you respond saying the normal, "Murder and Mayhem awaits!"

At which point your quest log updates saying 0/10 droids.

So you're claiming it's a bait and switch?  Don't tell them we're sending them to kill 10 droids but we really are?

Eh, you're kind of stretching the truth there.  Very rarely does the quest just send you to a spot to "investigate" and then says "you're here! kill 10 of something!".  In fact I can't think of an example where exactly that happened, it certainly hasn't happened 600 times.  Most often the kill x whatever bonus comes up while you're doing another task.

I'm not saying many quest tasks are any less mundane but I was responding to the comment that he was tired of quest givers telling him to go kill 10 droids.  We're discussing the benefits of the voiced cutscenes, yes?

The vast majority of quests in SWTOR are mundane filler kill 10 rats quests.

Originally posted by Garvon3

Originally posted by Sideras

The problem is that there are too many quests, the whole quest system is crap and should never have made it's way into MMO's. 

Just because there is dialogue doesn't make it less of a grind, it's still boring as fuck. I want a damned game not a milk-man simulator, cause they might aswell change all the objectives to pick up milk at A and deliver to B, rinse and repeat.

It's not an industry standard, to hell with you people. How miserable do you have to be to actually take this shit?

Pretty much. I am shocked at how people are enjoying SWTOR. Some people are playing it like a singleplayer game and saying it functions well that way. Well, I don't know any singleplayer games that charge me by the month. I also don't know any singleplayer games that pad out their quests as much as SWTOR does with useless tasks just to extend the gameplay. On top of that, the quests have no impact on the gameworld. Quest grinding is probably the worst feature to hit MMOs behind instancing.

Odd, I've never played a singleplayer game where I could group with upto 16 people.

Never played one that had raids, either.

Never played one that had group content.

Never played one where I could compete against other players, in teams of eight.

Your definition of singleplayer seems to be much different from mine...

Originally posted by Garvon3

Originally posted by DaRoamer

Originally posted by Wickedjelly

Originally posted by DaRoamer

Originally posted by Jason2444

After the 600th person telling me why i need to kill 10 droids, it got incredibly tedious 

I have never been asking by a quest giver to go kill 10 of anything in SWTOR.

When you go do a quest you may get a bonus if you kill X number of whatever but no quest has ever asked me to do that.

So true. Normally you are told how their soldiers are missing and wounded so could you check up on them and see if they're okay? Plus, kill whatever denizens laid their poor company to rest if they are found dead. Then you respond saying the normal, "Murder and Mayhem awaits!"

At which point your quest log updates saying 0/10 droids.

So you're claiming it's a bait and switch?  Don't tell them we're sending them to kill 10 droids but we really are?

Eh, you're kind of stretching the truth there.  Very rarely does the quest just send you to a spot to "investigate" and then says "you're here! kill 10 of something!".  In fact I can't think of an example where exactly that happened, it certainly hasn't happened 600 times.  Most often the kill x whatever bonus comes up while you're doing another task.

I'm not saying many quest tasks are any less mundane but I was responding to the comment that he was tired of quest givers telling him to go kill 10 droids.  We're discussing the benefits of the voiced cutscenes, yes?

The vast majority of quests in SWTOR are mundane filler kill 10 rats quests.

Now you're blatantly reaching, no, they are most definitely not.

Do most of the quests have a bonus kill objective? Yes, many do. But they are OPTIONAL.

never played it for the reason of the quest voice acting / cut scene ..i want to play an mmorpg ..not watch a movie or in this case a eps. of clone wars.

if this had something along the lines like eq or daoc were you had to type in a certain responce or READ the story or clicky the highlighted responce id try it..but this isnt my cup of tea mmo on rails made to act like mass effect is not what i look for in mmorpg's but thats just me

Originally posted by DaRoamer

So you're claiming it's a bait and switch?  Don't tell them we're sending them to kill 10 droids but we really are?

Eh, you're kind of stretching the truth there.  Very rarely does the quest just send you to a spot to "investigate" and then says "you're here! kill 10 of something!".  In fact I can't think of an example where exactly that happened, it certainly hasn't happened 600 times.  Most often the kill x whatever bonus comes up while you're doing another task.

I'm not saying many quest tasks are any less mundane but I was responding to the comment that he was tired of quest givers telling him to go kill 10 droids.  We're discussing the benefits of the voiced cutscenes, yes?

No...I'm saying you're being nitpicky in why you said his explanation is false.

Never said I have a problem with the quests in general in this game. Same as the rest of them so no surprise there.

But I'm not trying to imply they're somehow different either and there are tons of kill 'x' quests in this game and no...I'm not referring to the bonus ones. You can't think of a single example? I know I can. Think I even did present a couple earlier in this thread as a matter of fact.