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  Nadia

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2/02/12 6:18:31 PM#21

sounds like they have the rights to a Fallout mmo if they have interest

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-01-09-fallout-mmo-rights-revert-to-bethesda

  roby55

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2/02/12 6:22:25 PM#22

Take it from a guy who buys alot of Bethesda games . Bethesda WOULD FAIL if they made a mmo mark my words

I have been playing The Fall out and elder scrolls series for a long time Bethesda ALWAYS rely on their community to fix their bugs and game breaking glitches.

Bethesda are known for releasing a buggy and glitchy game (great games but still alot of flaws when it comes to optimizations) . Releasing a MMo that has full of bugs and glitches will kill your game before you can even say Bethesda in the first month .

There is no Coming back once a MMo in todays generation Fail to impress in the first few weeks .

 

And if your a true Bethesda Fan you know that Bethesda are AWFUL at story telling . The elder scrolls series games has always been great for exploration and immersion but One huge flaw is always their main plot which is truly terrible . Bethesda cant tell a good story at all.

 

 

  Isasis

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2/02/12 6:23:22 PM#23

A Fallout MMO I would go for more than an Elder Scrolls MMO. But at the same time, I dunno...Fallout 3 and New Vegas didn't feel very much like survival in a wasteland. I had to heavily mod it with various things, to make it actually feel like the apocalypse and I had to fight to survive.

 

I think an Elder Scrolls MMO would be better (for me), as it isn't really about surviving or being in an environment you would expect to need to survive in...and most, or at least, a lot, of people would hate that very hardcore experience. An umodded Skyrim/Oblivion/Morrowind played just fine for the most part. Better modded, but vanilla to me, is just fine in those three.

 

I would rather them stick with singleplayer games...one of the bigger selling points on the PC, is each individual can keep the vanilla experience...or mod the game as much or little to his/her liking (and each person has different things he wants in his/her game)

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  Destai

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2/02/12 6:25:15 PM#24
Originally posted by roby55

Take it from a guy who buys alot of Bethesda games . Bethesda WOULD FAIL if they made a mmo mark my words

I have been playing The Fall out and elder scrolls series for a long time Bethesda ALWAYS rely on their community to fix their bugs and game breaking glitches.

Bethesda are known for releasing a buggy and glitchy game (great games but still alot of flaws when it comes to optimizations) . Releasing a MMo that has full of bugs and glitches will kill your game before you can even say Bethesda in the first month .

There is no Coming back once a MMo in todays generation Fail to impress in the first few weeks .

 

And if your a true Bethesda Fan you know that Bethesda are a AWFUL story telling . The elder scrolls series games has always been great for exploration and immersion but One huge flaw is always their main plot which is truly terrible . Bethesda cant tell a good story at all.

 

 

I would argue that story should be second to exploration and other fulfilling activities. The Elder Scrolls game have always had an engrossing world and lore, and I feel a sandbox MMO would be befitting of the series.

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  Uccisore

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2/02/12 6:25:54 PM#25
Originally posted by roby55

Take it from a guRules of Conducty who buys alot of Bethesda games . Bethesda WOULD FAIL if they made a mmo mark my words

I have been playing The Fall out and elder scrolls series for a long time Bethesda ALWAYS rely on their community to fix their bugs and game breaking glitches.

Bethesda are known for releasing a buggy and glitchy game (great games but still alot of flaws when it comes to optimizations) . Releasing a MMo that has full of bugs and glitches will kill your game before you can even say Bethesda in the first month .

There is no Coming back once a MMo in todays generation Fail to impress in the first few weeks .

 

And if your a true Bethesda Fan you know that Bethesda are AWFUL at story telling . The elder scrolls series games has always been great for exploration and immersion but One huge flaw is always their main plot which is truly terrible . Bethesda cant tell a good story at all.

 

 

 

 

THis guy speaks the truth.  Think back to recent failed MMO launches, and what made their communities rage.   Bethesda games are routinely guilty of all of those things.

  Warmaker

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2/02/12 7:20:56 PM#26

I really hope Bethesda doesn't go the MMO route.  Both Blizzard and BioWare gave up alot of what made them special from their earlier years on their road to being big and into MMOs.  And the MMORPG genre cemented these negative changes even further.

It would be a great thing for Bethesda to never go that route.  Two of the biggest names of old school RPGs have gone down the tubes, Blizzard and BioWare.  I don't want Bethesda to go that route, one of the last big name RPG developers of good reputation remaining.

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  Kabaal

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2/02/12 7:24:30 PM#27

Bethseda would have to hire all the modders if they were to make an MMO seeing as the company itself doesn't know the meaning of the word polish. It's the modding communities that make their games great.

  Littlebomb

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2/02/12 7:29:21 PM#28
Originally posted by lalartu

ditto on the comment above

SWTOR is far from being successful still.

wait at least 6 months before making this decision.

Usually, you can tell how MMO is doing if they merge servers or open new servers.

 

 

Well if their forums are any indication they deffeinetly are not opening more servers. Several server merge threads won't die on the their official forums.

 

Republic players are playing a single player game.

  Lexin

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2/02/12 7:32:00 PM#29

Do I think Bethesda could make a decent MMO? Yes! Do I want Bethesda to make a decent MMO? No! At least not in today's market.

  aranha

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2/03/12 3:07:44 AM#30
Bethesda has gone too soft and the only thing they would be able to make is just another themepark. The TES and ME series have been dumbed down to the point where the depth and complexity is nonexistant.
  RelGn

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2/03/12 3:19:45 AM#31

Bioware successful?

hahahahaha.

Haven't you realised that bioware is ruined by ea year by year.

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  bobfish

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2/03/12 3:29:15 AM#32
Originally posted by Starwars001

With the hugely successful game companies like blizzard, bioware, I hope to see bethesda get into the MMO ring. 

I have a great confidence that they will make some type of successfull sandboxy game.

Hopefully Bethesda annonce something of the sort this year. 

 Bethesda have stated on many occasions that they don't care for MMOs and have no intentions of doing one. However parent company Zenimax has got a studio working on an as yet, unnamed, MMO.

  CujoSWAoA

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2/03/12 3:36:46 AM#33

How could the guys that create the likes of Skyrim possibly like MMORPGs?

I don't blame them for not wanting to jump into the market.  Look at the disgrace that is the MMORPG genre.

I hope Bethesda stays out of it. Screw it.  Leave the good RPGs to the single player ones.

  mindw0rk

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2/03/12 3:38:53 AM#34

Bethesda one of few companies capable of making a true next gen MMORPG. And TES IP suits perfect for it.

  Vesavius

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2/03/12 3:41:19 AM#35
Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

How could the guys that create the likes of Skyrim possibly like MMORPGs?

I don't blame them for not wanting to jump into the market.  Look at the disgrace that is the MMORPG genre.

I hope Bethesda stays out of it. Screw it.  Leave the good RPGs to the single player ones.

 

I agree. Beth should avoid this genre like the plague.

 

  Warmaker

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2/03/12 6:39:31 PM#36
Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

How could the guys that create the likes of Skyrim possibly like MMORPGs?

I don't blame them for not wanting to jump into the market.  Look at the disgrace that is the MMORPG genre.

I hope Bethesda stays out of it. Screw it.  Leave the good RPGs to the single player ones.

My sentiments exactly.  Disappointed to see how BioWare turned out.  Those days of Baldur's Gate 1 & 2, NWN, and KOTOR 1 are long gone.  That was their Golden Era, IMO.  They rake in cash now, but the feel of their games is gone;  They've lost that touch.

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  kashiegamer

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2/05/12 7:27:32 PM#37
Originally posted by Warmaker
Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

How could the guys that create the likes of Skyrim possibly like MMORPGs?

I don't blame them for not wanting to jump into the market.  Look at the disgrace that is the MMORPG genre.

I hope Bethesda stays out of it. Screw it.  Leave the good RPGs to the single player ones.

My sentiments exactly.  Disappointed to see how BioWare turned out.  Those days of Baldur's Gate 1 & 2, NWN, and KOTOR 1 are long gone.  That was their Golden Era, IMO.  They rake in cash now, but the feel of their games is gone;  They've lost that touch.

Im playing KOTOR 1 now and I gotta be honest it's resurrecting my min/max personality again. I'm just a level 5 soldier in Taris and trying my best not to click the level-up button. And I have this itch in me to repeat the game even though I haven't finished it just to get the perfect build since I chose critical over flurry (and a LOT of people are saying flurry is better for soldier/guardian).

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  Anireth

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2/05/12 7:46:51 PM#38

I would much prefer if companies would make multiplayer (coop) RPGs, but not MMOs. Especially with the trend to having companions in game, coop is not a far stretch when looking at gameplay. It still is quite a bit of work, but seeing as there have been multiplayer mods since like ever, and even the TES games with absolutely no networking whatsoever got some half-working coop mods..and compared to doing and MMO, it should be done relatively fast.

Oh, how i would love to explore Skyrim with someone else, Mass Effect, Dragon Age etc. Tried the Kingdoms of Alamur demo yesterday, nice game, especially the combat so far, but most likely won't buy it, got other stuff to play singleplayer (like, Skyrim). But coop? Big open world, class-less progression, so everyone can play how he wants, and especially not limited (neither hard, as in, two characters to choose from, like in Hunted: The demons forge, nor soft, as in, once you got every class/archtype/useful skill covered, it would actually hurt (the fun) to get another player in) - boy, i would love that. Would play the hell out of it, maybe even replay it (something i almost never do) with another class and take other options with quests/follow the other side,if available.

Developers seriously should release more good coop games (Good. that is important. If the game crashes every two minutes, and you have to restart the entire level/map, or replay an hour worth of quests because it has no drop in/drop out and doesn't correctly save and share the status..better stay away with what you can do good: Singleplayer).

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  DollMighty8313

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2/07/12 10:51:31 AM#39

It is so easy to spot people who haven't given an MMO a fair chance and bash it.

  Warmaker

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2/07/12 11:27:31 PM#40
Originally posted by dollada06

It is so easy to spot people who haven't given an MMO a fair chance and bash it.

Dude... seriously?

I've given MMORPGs 10 years of playtime before I have wholehearedly come to despise the genre with what it has become.  I stopped contributing to this farce of a genre in 2009.  Despite the ridiculous amounts of cash being made with MMORPGs and the multitude of players now, the gameplay scope has narrowed (less things to do in the game), there are less ways for players to affect the world, and of course, the continued discarding of the "Multiplayer" part of MMORPG for the sake of Single-Player ease.

Not only do MMORPGs today deserve a good bashing, they deserve a repeated kick in the nuts.

Seeing how 2 companies I used to be a fan of drastically change for the worse and transition into MMORPGs, I really, really hope Bethesda doesn't fall for this trap.  Jeez, let there be some good RPG developers out there.

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