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  Starwars001

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OP  2/02/12 10:50:28 AM#1

With the hugely successful game companies like blizzard, bioware, I hope to see bethesda get into the MMO ring. 

I have a great confidence that they will make some type of successfull sandboxy game.

Hopefully Bethesda annonce something of the sort this year. 

  Thorbrand

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2/02/12 10:53:42 AM#2

WOW is successful yes!

SWTOR isn't even close to going down as successful, you need to wait a few years for that.

Bethesda's games are not MMOs and can not be made into MMOs. I hope they never try to make a Elder Scrolls MMOs it will kill the franchise!

  ShakyMo

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2/02/12 10:56:13 AM#3
Bethesda
And valve
Are the 2 you would think would bring good will with them.if they made a mmo

However zenimax, Bethesdas parent company already have a mmo division which has been secretly working away for è years or so.
  Sheepduck

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2/02/12 10:57:51 AM#4
Bethesda is too great of a developer to be corrupted by the retards in the mmorpg community. I hope they never make an mmo
  Loke666

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2/02/12 10:58:49 AM#5
Originally posted by Thorbrand

WOW is successful yes!

SWTOR isn't even close to going down as successful, you need to wait a few years for that.

Bethesda's games are not MMOs and can not be made into MMOs. I hope they never try to make a Elder Scrolls MMOs it will kill the franchise!

Well, there is one Elder scroll multiplayer game: Battlespire. There you can play a team doing a huge dungeon.

Turning that IP into a good MMO is possible but there is of course also the possibility they would botch it up.

They have however said that their MMO isn´t set in the Elder scrolls.

  Volgore

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2/02/12 11:11:34 AM#6
Originally posted by Starwars001

With the hugely successful game companies like blizzard, bioware, I hope to see bethesda get into the MMO ring. 

I have a great confidence that they will make some type of successfull sandboxy game.

Hopefully Bethesda annonce something of the sort this year. 

I bet Bethesda is 10x more able to create a mmorpg than Bioware is.

  lalartu

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2/02/12 11:17:47 AM#7

ditto on the comment above

SWTOR is far from being successful still.

wait at least 6 months before making this decision.

Usually, you can tell how MMO is doing if they merge servers or open new servers.

 

 

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  Talin

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2/02/12 11:19:40 AM#8
Originally posted by Volgore
Originally posted by Starwars001

With the hugely successful game companies like blizzard, bioware, I hope to see bethesda get into the MMO ring. 

I have a great confidence that they will make some type of successfull sandboxy game.

Hopefully Bethesda annonce something of the sort this year. 

I bet Bethesda is 10x more able to create a mmorpg than Bioware is.

Creating an MMO and knowing what "functionality" to provide, and how to implement, creates a very different dynamic than single-player games. That said, if game companies listened to what people complain most about at MMO launches (lack of guild functionality, poorly designed PVP, lack of content, more socialization aspects), and plan accordingly, I don't see why any company cannot release a halfway decent MMO.

  Loke666

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2/02/12 11:21:24 AM#9
Originally posted by Volgore

I bet Bethesda is 10x more able to create a mmorpg than Bioware is.

I am not so sure. Biowares "Neverwinter nights" were a really good multiplayer game. What do Bethesda have that is similar? Battlespire?

Bethesda have even less experience than Bioware with multiplayer games. They might get it right of course but I want some kind of proof for that before I get hyped up, all Bethesdas good games have been single player only.

  DrunkWolf

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2/02/12 11:25:02 AM#10
Originally posted by Starwars001

With the hugely successful game companies like blizzard, bioware, I hope to see bethesda get into the MMO ring. 

I have a great confidence that they will make some type of successfull sandboxy game.

Hopefully Bethesda annonce something of the sort this year. 

 what makes you think they would make a sandbox game?

They see how much EA just made off a game that is half done, they would probably do the same thing. it would just be another cloned thempark instanced no pvp game like the rest of these games that copy wow.

  Volgore

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2/02/12 11:25:44 AM#11
Originally posted by Talin

Creating an MMO and knowing what "functionality" to provide, and how to implement, creates a very different dynamic than single-player games. That said, if game companies listened to what people complain most about at MMO launches (lack of guild functionality, poorly designed PVP, lack of content, more socialization aspects), and plan accordingly, I don't see why any company cannot release a halfway decent MMO.

Because all the do is looking back instead forward. So they constantly repeat stuff that worked for 10 years -despite people being fed up with said stuff for years already.

They shouldn't copy what worked in the past, but innovate something that works for the future.

  jdnewell

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2/02/12 11:25:59 AM#12

Seems everyone is trying to jump on the MMO bandwagon. I personally hope the dont make an MMO.

Stick to SP games IMO. If they start with the MMO business then the SP games ( which I love ) will suffer for it. IMO

  User Deleted
2/02/12 11:26:10 AM#13
Originally posted by Starwars001

With the hugely successful game companies like blizzard, bioware, I hope to see bethesda get into the MMO ring. 

I have a great confidence that they will make some type of successfull sandboxy game.

Hopefully Bethesda annonce something of the sort this year. 

Unless Bethesda allowed its players to MOD the MMO they made it would be a complete failure. Utterly. I can see it now. A 2 button interface, CTD's every 5 minutes, video cards melting down, Companions worse than STWOR's ones, craffting that can be maxed in 15 minutes, yeah.....

No thanks. They make some stellar single player games (after modding imo) but yeah let them stay in that area of expertise. We already have enough BIG name companies producing garbage. No need for more trash in the pile.

  WhiteLantern

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2/02/12 11:26:48 AM#14
Originally posted by Loke666
Originally posted by Volgore

I bet Bethesda is 10x more able to create a mmorpg than Bioware is.

I am not so sure. Biowares "Neverwinter nights" were a really good multiplayer game. What do Bethesda have that is similar? Battlespire?

Bethesda have even less experience than Bioware with multiplayer games. They might get it right of course but I want some kind of proof for that before I get hyped up, all Bethesdas good games have been single player only.

I agree. There's also the problem that Bethesda = buggy. If you look at companies that have moved from SPGs to MMOs, the bugs seem to multiply from one into the other. This would be bad news for Bethesda if they carried on that tradition based on their track record.

I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

  Thorbrand

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2/02/12 11:27:05 AM#15

I think the big problem with Bethesad making a MMO is people would think they are going to get the game experience of a elder scrolls game in an MMO. IMPOSSIBLE to do BTW! You will never have an MMO like Elder Scroll games.

I do think if Bethesda made a MMO it would be like they single player games, Unmatched by anyone else, other companies can't even come close.

However, most MMO gamers today don't like sandbox games which Bethesda is the master of single plalyer sandbox games. Of course they might be the ones to bring sandbox back to MMOs if all the sandbox games this year fail.

  Thorbrand

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2/02/12 11:29:51 AM#16
Originally posted by WhiteLantern
Originally posted by Loke666
Originally posted by Volgore

I bet Bethesda is 10x more able to create a mmorpg than Bioware is.

I am not so sure. Biowares "Neverwinter nights" were a really good multiplayer game. What do Bethesda have that is similar? Battlespire?

Bethesda have even less experience than Bioware with multiplayer games. They might get it right of course but I want some kind of proof for that before I get hyped up, all Bethesdas good games have been single player only.

I agree. There's also the problem that Bethesda = buggy. If you look at companies that have moved from SPGs to MMOs, the bugs seem to multiply from one into the other. This would be bad news for Bethesda if they carried on that tradition based on their track record.

Sorry had to quote this. Bethesda games are buggy yes but they are also 1000X more advanced than any other game out there if you look at everything the games offer. Given that any other developer couldn't even make the games Bethesda can make I think they are allowed to have a few bugs to fix, which they do regularly.

  Yamota

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2/02/12 11:33:46 AM#17
Originally posted by Volgore
Originally posted by Starwars001

With the hugely successful game companies like blizzard, bioware, I hope to see bethesda get into the MMO ring. 

I have a great confidence that they will make some type of successfull sandboxy game.

Hopefully Bethesda annonce something of the sort this year. 

I bet Bethesda is 10x more able to create a mmorpg than Bioware is.

Based on the fact that Skyrim plays better than all (ThemePark) MMOs I would tend to agree with you.

They seem to have understood the virtual, persistant world concept, Bioware either didn't understand or didn't care.

  User Deleted
2/02/12 11:38:38 AM#18
Originally posted by lalartu

ditto on the comment above

SWTOR is far from being successful still.

wait at least 6 months before making this decision.

Usually, you can tell how MMO is doing if they merge servers or open new servers.

 

 

 

Good point, have they opened any new servers recently?

  ShakyMo

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2/02/12 1:13:48 PM#19
Originally posted by Talin
Originally posted by Volgore
Originally posted by Starwars001

With the hugely successful game companies like blizzard, bioware, I hope to see bethesda get into the MMO ring. 

I have a great confidence that they will make some type of successfull sandboxy game.

Hopefully Bethesda annonce something of the sort this year. 

I bet Bethesda is 10x more able to create a mmorpg than Bioware is.

Creating an MMO and knowing what "functionality" to provide, and how to implement, creates a very different dynamic than single-player games. That said, if game companies listened to what people complain most about at MMO launches (lack of guild functionality, poorly designed PVP, lack of content, more socialization aspects), and plan accordingly, I don't see why any company cannot release a halfway decent MMO.

one thing I would not worry about with the zenimax MMO is PVP, considering who is the boss of zenimax MMO division

http://www.zenimaxonline.com/about.html

  Uccisore

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2/02/12 6:05:42 PM#20

If Bethesda got into the MMO market, I think they would find that constant game-ruining bugs,  a total lack of balance in any abilities, and the same 10 monsters and 5 textures being streeeeeetched into 150 hours of 'content' would be pretty strongly frowned upon.

Well, maybe not that last one. Most MMO players I know seem completely content to kill 9001 Draugr.

 

If Skyrim was an MMO, it would be heralded as one of the worst of our times.

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