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  Kalmarth

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Joined: 9/18/04
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2/02/12 2:54:37 PM#61

You did it now, you gone and said something good about ToR, time for the HATE to flow, how dare you say something good about it *cry sob* its the *crys more*


 


Ok I like the game but you just made the haters hate, be sure you get a food taster and someone to open your mail for a while, perhaps even check under you car for bombs.


  kalinis

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2/02/12 4:02:28 PM#62

he did mock tor's flaws pretty good. He is right about he good parts of this game . The fact that haters want people to blast every little thing about the game and he didnt is a huge joke on u in my opinion.


So coyote likes tor get over it , u dont have to like tor we get it u guys hate tor , any one who likes it is paid to like it or so forth we get all that.


Tor fans are dick's with no life who wouldnt know a good game if it bit them in the ass yelling good game good game, we get thats how u feel 


coyote doesnt agree so get over it.


  User Deleted
2/02/12 4:04:19 PM#63

Originally posted by Earend




Originally posted by Sandor_Phrog








Did it ever occur to you that if all the reviews are saying the same thing, and you disagree with it, that maybe they're right and you're wrong?  Holding a minority opinion does not automatically make you a virtuous underdog.  Sometimes you're just being a jackass and can't (or won't) see it.







 




WHAT EVER PHROG MAN MAYBE YOU'RE JUST BEING A BIASED SHEEP AND YOU CAN'T SEE IT.  ANYONE WHO EVER SAYS THEY'RE FINE WITH SOMETHING GOT IT FOR FREE OR HAS BRAIN SARS.  WHY WOULD PEOPLE GO TO THE FORUMS JUST TO COMPLAIN ABOUT STAR WARS THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE SOMETHING THE INTERNET WOULD DO?




 




ALSO i have a prob with my game i picked jedi but they said romances are bad and i have a green lightsaber so i can't any dark points but i don't know how do i form jedi babby plz halp?  wtf bioware?





 




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  Yamota

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2/02/12 4:18:17 PM#64

Hm no mention of the lacklustre PvP... inability to choose warfronts, lack of incentives for world PvP, only two level brackets which means constant facerolling for anyone less than level 40.


No mention of the complete lack of innovation in regards to MMORPGs. No, voice acting is not innovative, it has been done for years and heck even Dragon Age Origins has better story and voice acting than this.


Also it is false that your choice in dialogue can alter the quest, the final outcome is always the same. The only thing it effects is the dark/light points and some fluff, like an NPC dying or not but which has no effect on the outcome of the quest. Mass Effect 2 had real quest decisions as in that it affects your relationship with NPCs and future quests, in SW:TOR that does not exist at all.


But SW:TOR is fun, yeah sure but so is bowling. That does not make bowling a good MMORPG.


Fail review.


  Yamota

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2/02/12 4:24:52 PM#65

Originally posted by DJJazzy

So many whiners here. So he is not allowed to like the game? Or is it that his opinion doesn't match your opinion? Is that why some of you cry so much?


Anyway, as for the article. Glad you are enjoying the game although I have to admit this isn't one of your funnier articles.



 


When he fails to bring up FACTS. Like how the PvP is so underdeveloped and all the crap that has gone on in Illum and that the choices you make in quests actually has little to no meaning (like they do in other Bioware games) then it is not about being allowed to like it or not.


Also he says that this game has it all. Really? I haven't even heard that from the most adamant fans of this game.


At best it is negligence on his profession and at worst it is deliberately deluding people.


  maskedweasel

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2/02/12 4:29:34 PM#66
Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by DJJazzy

So many whiners here. So he is not allowed to like the game? Or is it that his opinion doesn't match your opinion? Is that why some of you cry so much?


Anyway, as for the article. Glad you are enjoying the game although I have to admit this isn't one of your funnier articles.



 

When he fails to bring up FACTS. Like how the PvP is so underdeveloped and all the crap that has gone on in Illum and that the choices you make in quests actually has little to no meaning (like they do in other Bioware games) then it is not about being allowed to like it or not.


Also he says that this game has it all. Really? I haven't even heard that from the most adamant fans of this game.


At best it is negligence on his profession and at worst it is deliberately deluding people.

 

It isn't a fact that PvP is underdeveloped, thats an opinion.  "All the crap on Ilum" is server specific.. not every server encounters problems on Ilum....   choice having no meaning... also an opinion.   

 

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  Votan

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2/02/12 4:35:20 PM#67

A majority of the player base that started at release and stuck with playing one character are max level.  I think you did not account for the large amount of players who really enjoy what SWTOR game play offers are spending their time leveling a 2nd/3rd/4th character doing what SWTOR does well which is the story.


 


If you really think it takes 20 hours a day to get to max fast in this game I am really not sure what game you are playing because its certainly not SWTOR.


 


  Hairysun

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Boo......

2/02/12 4:41:50 PM#68

Heh .... read the article, all the responses and my mind keeps going back to one thing.


 


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  Nethermancer

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2/02/12 5:07:46 PM#69

I have read user reviews that were funnier then that.

 

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  Pilnkplonk

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2/02/12 5:14:24 PM#70

meh


  kashiegamer

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2/02/12 6:27:23 PM#71

i gotta be honest, when i read that SW:TOR killed Revan and the Exile (main characters of KOTOR 1 and KOTOR 2), even though I havent played SW:TOR yet, I started to have a bias against it. :(


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  PyrateLV

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2/02/12 6:57:46 PM#72

MMORPG Staff 1: We need another review of SW:TOR

MMORPG Staff 2: Great idea, but we cant make it too positive because the readers will know we are shills.

MMORPG Staff 1: Hey! lets get Coyote to write it.

MMORPG Staff 2: Yeah, he'll do it. He hates everything.

MMORPG Staff 1: Hey Coyote. We need you to write one of your Howlings about SW:TOR

Coyote: But....me likes teh SW:TOR

MMORPG Staff 1: Really? Well make it a fluff piece. Just howl at it a little then. But make fun of it in a nice way. We dont want to risk our advert $$

Coyote: Ok, but make sure Mr. Lucas knows Im just kidding. I dont want to end up with an Ewok head in my bed.

 

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  Littlebomb

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2/02/12 7:26:48 PM#73

Originally posted by Littlebomb

I guess the reviewer didn't notice?




Ton's of load screens




Completely instanced MMO, literally completely instanced. Almost as bad as GW1.




No Combat log (have fun raiding with no combat log trying to figure out where the damage is coming from.)




No chat bubbles




Horrible ability lag (that is still there becuase i've been following it on the forums, it's why i quit in the first place)




Abilities that simply won't ever fire off.




Open worlds that feel devoid of all life and personality. (npc's don't even move)




RNG system for pvp gear (enjoy multiple set pieces over and over and over again.)




All servers are 4 to 1 in Empire's favor.




HORRIBLE UI (seriously bad, fire the UI team)




Buggy, (especially once you hit end game dungeons. One night me and some friends had to spend 15 minutes sjust trying to figure out how to even enter a hard mode dungeon, We must have had to drop group 5 times to finally get the instance to let us in)




Tons and I repeat tons of CC in pvp. MDPS have fun with that.




Servers that say standard are actually totally empty if you're a Republic player.




Silent management style of customer service. Good luck ever talking to a human being.




I could go on and on.




 





Quoting myself because I just thought of more reasons.


 


you can't choose which Warfront you do. (literally you have no option to choose 1 out of the 3)


There is no scoreboard in pvp games until the very end of the match. There is literally nothing built into the pvp map to let you see the score as the game progresses.


 


Every time you que with friends....it kicks you out of your party after the warfront is over so you get to reform your party every single que.


 


The gear is horrible looking endgame. Jedi knights looks like robo cop and assasin's end up looking like ninja's? Last I looked Japanese ninja's were'nt in the star war's canon but maybe im wrong.


 


  niceguy3978

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2/02/12 7:36:09 PM#74
Originally posted by Sandor_Phrog

Originally posted by Earend




Originally posted by Sandor_Phrog








Did it ever occur to you that if all the reviews are saying the same thing, and you disagree with it, that maybe they're right and you're wrong?  Holding a minority opinion does not automatically make you a virtuous underdog.  Sometimes you're just being a jackass and can't (or won't) see it.







 



WHAT EVER PHROG MAN MAYBE YOU'RE JUST BEING A BIASED SHEEP AND YOU CAN'T SEE IT.  ANYONE WHO EVER SAYS THEY'RE FINE WITH SOMETHING GOT IT FOR FREE OR HAS BRAIN SARS.  WHY WOULD PEOPLE GO TO THE FORUMS JUST TO COMPLAIN ABOUT STAR WARS THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE SOMETHING THE INTERNET WOULD DO?




 




ALSO i have a prob with my game i picked jedi but they said romances are bad and i have a green lightsaber so i can't any dark points but i don't know how do i form jedi babby plz halp?  wtf bioware?





 



See what happens when you use all the capital letters in your first paragraph?  You have none left when you need them later.

You win the thread.  This was funnier than anything in the article and funnier by far than any of the responses.

  Doomedfox

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2/02/12 7:50:42 PM#75
Originally posted by Yamota

Hm no mention of the lacklustre PvP... inability to choose warfronts, lack of incentives for world PvP, only two level brackets which means constant facerolling for anyone less than level 40.


No mention of the complete lack of innovation in regards to MMORPGs. No, voice acting is not innovative, it has been done for years and heck even Dragon Age Origins has better story and voice acting than this.


Also it is false that your choice in dialogue can alter the quest, the final outcome is always the same. The only thing it effects is the dark/light points and some fluff, like an NPC dying or not but which has no effect on the outcome of the quest. Mass Effect 2 had real quest decisions as in that it affects your relationship with NPCs and future quests, in SW:TOR that does not exist at all.


But SW:TOR is fun, yeah sure but so is bowling. That does not make bowling a good MMORPG.


Fail review.

You have to be very unlucky and always run into some serious skilled pvp players if you get facerolled if you are not 40 well or you just lack skills and are too busy whining about not beeing 40+ all the time and forget to fight bk i dunno all i do know is that i dont have probs holding my own in pvp against higher lvls it was very bad with the 50s in full pvp gear but now the 40s are not that big of a deal anymore.

I do agree with you on the quests tho HOWEVER the choices can alter your personal story tho i believe one job will loose (kill) 1 companion if you picked the right (wrong) choices another job could turn a Jedy to the dark side depending on your choices you will open up Companion quests if you treat them well enough and raise the affection so there certainly is more change to the story in thgis game than in any other MMO to date.....

  Baitness

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2/02/12 9:22:09 PM#76

SWTOR is to MMORPGs what SPORE was to strategy games.  A terrible game with a gimmick that manages to miraculously score 85% everywhere even though the vast majority of players find its shallowness and lack of actual content disgusting.


  djmtott

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2/02/12 10:06:48 PM#77
Originally posted by Baitness

SWTOR is to MMORPGs what SPORE was to strategy games.  A terrible game with a gimmick that manages to miraculously score 85% everywhere even though the vast majority of players find its shallowness and lack of actual content disgusting.

What's terrible is when people in the minority think they're in the "vast majority".

  Aeolron

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2/02/12 10:08:50 PM#78
Bait you new to mmos? Because every single mmo that ever came out had a lack of content , but swtor has alot of it.

People that come to these forums just to whine need to find anew hobby. There is nothing wrong with swtor it's just that most of the whiners want this and want that buy most importantly they want to be the best, and when that doesn't happen ohhh boy here come the tears! Seriously get over yourselfs and go get a life!
  someforumguy

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2/02/12 10:31:26 PM#79

Im enjoying the game beyond my expectations. I knew I was going to enjoy the storyside, because I like most Bioware games. I also knew that I had to limit my expectations in terms of freedom in the game. Bioware games are usually quite lineair for rpg's.

But what I didnt expect is that this game got rid of some of my (WoW and LOTRO) petpeeves. A few examples are:

- Being able to sell in most combat areas, so you dont have to trod back just to clear your inventory. Or just send your companion to sell for you.

- No nodehunting if I dont feel like it ! I simply send my companions to do this.

- Nice questing flow in terms of placement (you always somehow stumble on them). I know that this is also because its so lineair. But this was already expected by me. The lack of having to travel back loads of time over the same road then really helps.

- The bonus missions are a nice way to deal with the typical kill x mobs. The way they automatically start when you first enter the area helps with my questing flow.

There are more of these tiny things that this game doesnt annoy me with like in some other mainstream MMO's.

The things I dont like :

- User Interface. Big and clunky! I hate it that chat is the top left corner! wtf! With all the quickslot bars and the rest of the interface, its almost as if Im peering through an anorak hood all the time. Kenny anyone?

- Republic fleet. A stupid large circle as main hub. Somehow they managed to make sure that players never hang around longer then they have to. This will never become a popular hub to hang out.

- Space missions. I tried to like this. But  everytime when I want to go into a direction that I think is strategically better, I get pulled into a different direction. Rail space ftl! It makes me feel as if Im playing on an arcade machine on board of my ship.


  Dayzon

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2/02/12 10:55:10 PM#80

I can think of 51 more weaknesses....becouse critisizing is the easiest thing to do, I'll specialise in that.


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