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VastoHorde
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Joined: 9/03/08
Developers forgot what made mmos special. Until we get that back the genre wont move forward. |
Video showing a battle against an Elite. Notice how the Beserker uses its block ability during the fight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiGouNuK3Tk
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1/29/12 7:09:13 PM#2
*yawn* slow combat is slow. |
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1/29/12 7:21:39 PM#3
combat in Tera is stop/and/go stop/and/go i really disliked how they used the animation as the global cooldown so you are besicaly rooted in place wile animation finishes. prettiest game out there though that's for sure. |
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1/29/12 7:26:50 PM#4
Two years ago I was looking forward to TERA yet after more of the game on display that desire has faded. This video delivers a continuation of that sentiment. |
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1/29/12 7:27:34 PM#5
Wow that game looks really cool. I hope NC's law suit doesn't stop this release into the US and Canada.
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VastoHorde
Elite Member
Joined: 9/03/08
Developers forgot what made mmos special. Until we get that back the genre wont move forward. |
I am also really hoping the lawsuit does not stop the release. Other then ArcheAge this is it for me.
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1/29/12 7:55:18 PM#7
whys this remind me of blade and soul. Looks really great, I guess Im just stuck on Aion, my favorite game.
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1/29/12 7:57:59 PM#8
Also, combat is a tad bit slower because of latency here. Though not by much.
I actually like that it locks you in your animation, much like vindictus. |
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1/29/12 8:12:11 PM#9
Originally posted by Jakdstripper I've got to agree with this. I hate traditional MMORPG combat for 3 reasons: - I never feel like I'm completely in control of my character and what happens to my character. - I'm given an unnecessary amount of abilities, most of which I don't use. - I feel like I'm stuck in the mud, especially as a caster. Tera fixes my first 2 issues with MMORPG combat, but locking characters, in place, with their animations is not ideal and doing so to melee classes is a cardinal sin IMO. It's one of the several reason why I simply cannot get excited for the game. |
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1/29/12 9:54:08 PM#10
It makes you learn the anims, and learn what to do when. Much like Monster Hunter / Dark Souls / Demon Souls. Somewhat more taticle. Vindictus does too , but it auto corrects for you when you're stringing animations together, which I kinda don't like. |
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1/29/12 10:12:22 PM#11
Combat reminds me of many single player action games, the boss charges his power move, he growls puts his weapons up and then assaults giving a good 3 to 5 seconds for you to move or block. Once you get a his tells down all you have to do is follow the rythm. The AI seems non reactive too, it doesn't interupt and go after the one he has aggro on. It just finishes the move even if it hasn't started the actual move. Just seems tedious for a nine and a half minute fight. |
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1/29/12 10:21:48 PM#12
IMO both GW2 and Tera have great combat. However i kinda like Tera's combat more, having skills lock you down while you do them adds a whole new level of tactics, you have to be much more careful of what skill you use and if it's worthy considering it's animation. Also that video doesn't make justice, the Berzerker is the slowest class of the game, the Slayer and Warrior are much faster. I just can't imagine how allowing everyone to bunny hope and run around while they do a sword slash makes sense, sounds like simplification. Also i would love to see a combat video of a Caster in GW2, do you have to aim like you do in Tera?
BTW, if this game didn't had huge weapons, it would be impossible to PVP with melee clases xD.
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stayontarget
Guide
Joined: 10/04/08
Girlfriends come and go but Epic battles are Soulbound |
1/30/12 2:01:49 AM#13
It will be the best sub game on the market in NA & EU when it launches. All tab-target lovers need not apply. Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries... |
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1/30/12 2:08:48 AM#14
10 minutes to fight 1 elite, that does the same thing over and over and over and over again? So sad that i was actually looking forward to this game :( |
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stayontarget
Guide
Joined: 10/04/08
Girlfriends come and go but Epic battles are Soulbound |
1/30/12 2:12:39 AM#15
Originally posted by Cochran1 Well you are very observant except for one little thing, This bam is around lvl20ish and is the 2nd bam you will encounter at that lvl. Ofcourse it will be slow at showing its tells, and the game does have interrups on mobs. imo the mob ai is the best of any game out on the market to date (speaking from a player that has a max character in the game). Tedious ? sorry this an't wow ,tor, or rift. If you want casual easy mode go play those games. This video showed off a mob that normaly takes a party of 5 to take down, having only 2 players at that level is quite good. But I guess you can't understand the meaning of a challenging game.
~sorry for the rant but misinformed noobs put me on edge~ Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries... |
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stayontarget
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Joined: 10/04/08
Girlfriends come and go but Epic battles are Soulbound |
1/30/12 2:15:37 AM#16
Originally posted by YouNube To bad it not an elite...try something a little higher than that.... Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries... |
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1/30/12 2:16:41 AM#17
Some time ago, I was waiting TERA with great excitement... now I could only see the background mobs in the video, and how they lack any sort of patrolling AI... they just stand there on the map. This is not something I consider immersive :( |
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1/30/12 2:19:28 AM#18
Yes, so it does usually take 5 people to take down, does this change the fact, that it still does the same thing even for 4 minutes instead of 9? The point is, that no matter how shiny it looks, the concept is the same. You go to it, even if you dont have to TAB-TARGET it, you still use 1-5 skills and just dodge the mobs attacks. So what is so awesome about it ? I played vindictus and DCUO for a really long time, so im allowed to say, this combat style is fun, but the fun doesnt last long enough. But its also limiting. Being able to hit only 1 target, no matter what skill combos you have to use, lowers the skill cap. Just to give an example - if you for example play some CC class, you NEED to be able to target different people, or as a healer you also need to be able to target different people. Being able to do a couple of things at one time is what makes you a good and skilled player. And that differs the good players from the really good players. No matter MMORPG, MOBA, RTS or w/e. Where if you have just a crosshair, most of the time you will be doing whatever is that to only 1 target at a time. |
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stayontarget
Guide
Joined: 10/04/08
Girlfriends come and go but Epic battles are Soulbound |
1/30/12 2:19:53 AM#19
Originally posted by BTrayaL Are you serious ? must I help you out. ~sigh~ http://www.twitch.tv/goditer Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries... |
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stayontarget
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Joined: 10/04/08
Girlfriends come and go but Epic battles are Soulbound |
1/30/12 2:21:14 AM#20
Originally posted by YouNube Wow ur such an expert. Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries... |