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  praytock

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1/29/12 1:42:49 AM#61

Rather than having an internet argument about it ....how about signing it like I did.

Everyone is debating it but..i only see 4 sigs so far...

I read about 14 people agreeing with FULL LOOT ON A SEPARATE SERVER......but their sigs are not on the petition.

PUT the FULL LOOTERS on their OWN SERVER...if you dont want them on yours...or if you want to be on THAT particular server like me.

Sign away on the link provided on the FIRST POST please

Thanks =)

  User Deleted
1/29/12 1:47:51 AM#62

A sandbox MMO w/o full loot?

 

FINALLY!

 

  Nitth

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1/29/12 1:54:04 AM#63


Originally posted by Snaylor47
A sandbox MMO w/o full loot?
 
FINALLY!
 

I think its going to be debatable how much of a sandbox this game is going to be...
From the videos ive seen there still is a questing system, battlegrounds and instanced dungeons..

Probably going to be more of a hybrid.


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  charlizd

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1/29/12 4:37:37 AM#64

Signed :)

  Amate

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1/29/12 8:42:42 AM#65
Originally posted by Mellkor

 


Originally posted by Snaylor47
A sandbox MMO w/o full loot?
 
FINALLY!
 


 

I think its going to be debatable how much of a sandbox this game is going to be...
From the videos ive seen there still is a questing system, battlegrounds and instanced dungeons..

Probably going to be more of a hybrid.

Jake Song never said the game would be a full sandbox. From the start it was presented as a Sandpark.

And no there isn't instanced dungeons, they were removed. As for battleground, while you do get honour points, it's faster to get points in the open world, so BGs are usually empty. People should stop assuming from videos.

  Greymoor

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1/29/12 8:45:08 AM#66
Originally posted by Amate
Originally posted by Mellkor

 


Originally posted by Snaylor47
A sandbox MMO w/o full loot?
 
FINALLY!
 


 

I think its going to be debatable how much of a sandbox this game is going to be...
From the videos ive seen there still is a questing system, battlegrounds and instanced dungeons..

Probably going to be more of a hybrid.

Jake Song never said the game would be a full sandbox. From the start it was presented as a Sandpark.

And no there isn't instanced dungeons, they were removed. As for battleground, while you do get honour points, it's faster to get points in the open world, so BGs are usually empty. People should stop assuming from videos.

Ohhh interesting about the dungeons, have XLGames mentioned anything about their plans for dungeons or simular content since the removal :o ?

  mastersomrat

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1/29/12 8:47:50 AM#67

Vote for no.  I can't think of one mmo that ever made it to the top 5 with full pvp loot.

  illorion

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1/29/12 8:58:39 AM#68
Originally posted by mastersomrat

Vote for no.  I can't think of one mmo that ever made it to the top 5 with full pvp loot.

..... Ultima?

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  wizyy

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1/29/12 8:59:54 AM#69

I don't really like the idea of FULL loot, but I hope dev team will at least consider it for ONE server.

Jake Song seems to want to cater for most people's wishes, so everyone would find a place in his game - therefore there may be a good chance for something like this, methinks.

  Adalwulff

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1/29/12 10:52:11 AM#70
Originally posted by SandboxerX
As it seems right now ArcheAge will not be a full loot game. While it may be possible to kill other players at will you will not be able to loot them. I started a petition to get XL Games to create a separate full loot server for the hardcore sandbox crowd. Even if you do not like full loot MMO's it would behoove you to sign this petition so that gankers will stay on there own server. Please sign this petition. http://sandboxer.org/?p=541

 

I play online games for PvP, thats what I do, and I love it.

But, full loot PvP has way too many problems. First of which is the ganker mentality, ruthless and unforgiving, not something that inspires many players. Very difficult to progress once the server has been open for a few weeks.

A good example is the OP. Look at how the OP is actually threating you to sign the petition, because if you dont, you will be at the mercy of the gankers. Ruthless and disguting tactic.

This is exactly why full loot PvP should never see the light of day, in any game.

  TruthXHurts

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1/29/12 10:55:16 AM#71

A bunch of sefish people in this world that can't bare to think that the PVP crowd coul dhave their own server because it would take population from the server that you like. Well maybe these people actually enjoy full loot pvp, and would buy the game just for that server. If you don't like full loot then it's very simple not ot play on the server. All these carebears who cry that a pvp server for those who want to play that way woudl ruin the game just make me sick.

"I am not in a server with Gankers...THEY ARE IN A SERVER WITH ME!!!"

  stragen001

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1/29/12 11:02:40 AM#72

The amount of people that would actually want full loot open world PvP as a proportion of the MMO community is really very very small. 

Most of them however hang out on these forums so it appears that there are many more people in favor of this than there actually are.

Having said that, I think 1 SEPARATE SERVER with full loot on is a great idea. That way the minority of people that want this can go play on that server and the rest of us can get on with enjoying the game. 

IMO they shouldnt advertise the fact they are having a full loot server at all, as the kind of people that will play it, are those that tend to frequent forums/follow the game closely anyway and so will already know. If they make a point of it then it will scare most players away. 

 

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  TruthXHurts

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1/29/12 11:06:12 AM#73
Originally posted by stragen001

The amount of people that would actually want full loot open world PvP as a proportion of the MMO community is really very very small. 

Most of them however hang out on these forums so it appears that there are many more people in favor of this than there actually are.

Having said that, I think 1 SEPARATE SERVER with full loot on is a great idea. That way the minority of people that want this can go play on that server and the rest of us can get on with enjoying the game. 

IMO they shouldnt advertise the fact they are having a full loot server at all, as the kind of people that will play it, are those that tend to frequent forums/follow the game closely anyway and so will already know. If they make a point of it then it will scare most players away. 

 

White people are becoming a minority in the US. Just goes to show you that trends change, and so does the taste of the masses. I hope that MMO's will come full circle sooner than later, and go back ot the days of risk vs reward.

"I am not in a server with Gankers...THEY ARE IN A SERVER WITH ME!!!"

  Adalwulff

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1/29/12 11:09:27 AM#74
Originally posted by TruthXHurts
Originally posted by stragen001

The amount of people that would actually want full loot open world PvP as a proportion of the MMO community is really very very small. 

Most of them however hang out on these forums so it appears that there are many more people in favor of this than there actually are.

Having said that, I think 1 SEPARATE SERVER with full loot on is a great idea. That way the minority of people that want this can go play on that server and the rest of us can get on with enjoying the game. 

IMO they shouldnt advertise the fact they are having a full loot server at all, as the kind of people that will play it, are those that tend to frequent forums/follow the game closely anyway and so will already know. If they make a point of it then it will scare most players away. 

 

White people are becoming a minority in the US. Just goes to show you that trends change, and so does the taste of the masses. I hope that MMO's will come full circle sooner than later, and go back ot the days of risk vs reward.

 

Please leave your racist BS at the door, it has no place here.

  InFaVilla

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1/29/12 11:55:40 AM#75
Originally posted by tom_gore

I totally support a full loot server. Throw the gankers in, lock the door and throw away the key.

 

Somehow the "worst offenders" always seem to play in PvE servers, where they can be the wolfs among sheep and exploit different pvp flagging mechanics.

  Nitth

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1/29/12 4:32:19 PM#76


Originally posted by Amate


Originally posted by Mellkor
 



Originally posted by Snaylor47
A sandbox MMO w/o full loot?
 
FINALLY!
 



 
I think its going to be debatable how much of a sandbox this game is going to be...
From the videos ive seen there still is a questing system, battlegrounds and instanced dungeons..
Probably going to be more of a hybrid.


Jake Song never said the game would be a full sandbox. From the start it was presented as a Sandpark.
And no there isn't instanced dungeons, they were removed. As for battleground, while you do get honour points, it's faster to get points in the open world, so BGs are usually empty. People should stop assuming from videos.

Do you have a link to the removal of instanced dungeons? I would really like to read the source.


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  Amate

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1/29/12 5:55:59 PM#77
Originally posted by Mellkor

 


Originally posted by Amate


Originally posted by Mellkor
 



Originally posted by Snaylor47
A sandbox MMO w/o full loot?
 
FINALLY!
 



 
I think its going to be debatable how much of a sandbox this game is going to be...
From the videos ive seen there still is a questing system, battlegrounds and instanced dungeons..
Probably going to be more of a hybrid.



Jake Song never said the game would be a full sandbox. From the start it was presented as a Sandpark.
And no there isn't instanced dungeons, they were removed. As for battleground, while you do get honour points, it's faster to get points in the open world, so BGs are usually empty. People should stop assuming from videos.


 

Do you have a link to the removal of instanced dungeons? I would really like to read the source.

Source is myself, was in CBT3 and is currently in CBT4. Up to you to doubt me or not.

I could link an article from the last G*Star where one of the dev mention it, but it's in korean. If you can read korea, check on thisisgame.com review of the G*Star 2011.

  waynejr2

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1/29/12 7:20:15 PM#78
Originally posted by PsychoPigeon
Originally posted by waynejr2
Originally posted by Ajmags
Originally posted by SandboxerX
As it seems right now ArcheAge will not be a full loot game. While it may be possible to kill other players at will you will not be able to loot them. I started a petition to get XL Games to create a separate full loot server for the hardcore sandbox crowd. Even if you do not like full loot MMO's it would behoove you to sign this petition so that gankers will stay on there own server. Please sign this petition. http://sandboxer.org/?p=541

Good Idea starting the petition. It really crackes me up how many people can't comprehend what your asking for here.

Im personally in favor of a death system that makes players actully fear death therefore adding some excitement to the game. When there is no real death system players just rez and repeat over and over and over with no real consequence, even when fighting NPC mobs. There is no challenge and the game feels dumbed down.

 

While I think "full loot" is a good idea I think it should be just slightly less than full loot ..... So for instance if you die you can lose whatever Cash your carrying along with everything in your bag but the Killer only has the option to loot one piece of Armor off your body. This will force people to be smart about how they play the game and to use the bank often and it will also add the element of fear that so many games lack these days it will bring a sense of realism.

Im not a ganker nor do I like mindless gankers, honestly I like to hunt down and kill those types of players.

Those of you who DO NOT LIKE this type of SERVER the answer is simple... Dont play on it.

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Don't play on it?  lol, funny stuff there.

Every sec the devs put into a special server that is time taken away from the core game.  So that's why I won't support every little variation of server.

People like you always say the same rhetoric before a game gets released. You seem to have this fairy tale view that every employee is working on something crucial at any given minute when it's just not the case.

I have just 30+ years involved with software and engineering projects.

  nilden

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1/29/12 7:23:13 PM#79
Originally posted by Kuro1n
Originally posted by Onomas

No simply no. Im a huge fan of sandbox games, open world pvp with meaning, and crafting. We want people to come to AA, not get turned off by it. Even with open pvp its not bad getting killed here and there for some. With the jail system might be fun. But with full loot, you wont get many to look at AA let alone play it. We need more sandbox games in the market, and long as we keep letting everyone think sandbox autmaticaly means open pvp gankfest we wont get more. AA is kind of our one last big hope to turn the tide on themepark wow clones, every game is one and im sick of it.

 

So i say hell no, promote AA dont try to kill it. pvp is fine, full loot turns so many noses it will only hurt the game in the long run.

Maybe just maybe you should have read OPs post... he asked to sign a petition for a SEPARATE server which sounds VERY GOOD to me, those who wish for it can go there and the rest can play the normal servers. If it becomes popular they can just launch another server of full loot, why not explore all the possible paths?

/signed

And since I coded MUDs yo. FULLLOOTPVP=ON/OFF. That's how hard it would be to code.

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  Brodter

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1/29/12 7:23:28 PM#80
You can't really petition a game company for this. If its wanted by the community then they will add it.

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