5:45 Game will be down longer then then the 6 am startup time posted on the login screen.  I have no idea when its going live again.  :(

Originally posted by Complication

read the other posts in this thread before you comment on my OP.

also it was a mixture of sarcasm and disapproval.

and loke, i spend to much money when i go to my local dive bar :D

Duh, you sure? :)

And my reply had none of that, right?

The only way to reply to sarcasm and disapproval is with the same thing.

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Originally posted by evianwater
I don't know if I should be angry at EA or Bioware...because as much as Bioware's name is all over the game, it was EA's pressure to get the game out that got us an incomplete game. 

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Originally posted by Thodra

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by thamighty213

Maintenance has been extended with no ETA

UPDATE 5:45 AM CST: Today's server maintenance has been extended. At this time, we do not have an estimate for the end of the maintenance. Thank you for your patience.

Seems like they majorly screwed up something and now they dont know how to fix it.

This happens quite often actually, they extend it... not good

Uh-oH

Originally posted by Thodra

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by thamighty213

Maintenance has been extended with no ETA

UPDATE 5:45 AM CST: Today's server maintenance has been extended. At this time, we do not have an estimate for the end of the maintenance. Thank you for your patience.

Seems like they majorly screwed up something and now they dont know how to fix it.

This happens quite often actually, they extend it... not good

There are basically only two possible scenarios here:

1. They discovered yet again a huge exploit that had gone rampant, switched off the servers in panic mode and now twiddeling in how to fix the mess.

2. A patch has gone badly wrong and screwed up the live servers royally and they didn't had a proper fallback plan and don't know how to revert it.... possibly resulting in a rollback of all servers... which might also explain why it's taking so long and them not giving an ETA.

Originally posted by Mellkor

 

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Originally posted by evianwater
I don't know if I should be angry at EA or Bioware...because as much as Bioware's name is all over the game, it was EA's pressure to get the game out that got us an incomplete game. 

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Oh i'm sure the fans and supporters were innocent in that too? 

 

Yeah it is also fans fault. Don't leave anyone, get the am all with your hate..no one shall escape.

*rolls eyes*

Originally posted by pmaura

So if I understand this, there not allowed to fix things off dedicated times, even if its imporatant. So f an exploit is found wednesday they have to wait ill next tuesday to fix it. Got it.

Also if there forums are tied to there Game thats also not allowed because we need to complain about them fixing the game.

So it actually appears when a company releases a game with bugs its what people want becuase no one wants them to fix it.

Or is it the game has so few bugs people cant understand why there fixing it now since there so irrelevant and just let me play.

Bioware cant win.

and yet you failed to actually read any of the factual replies in this thread or go to the actual forum itself and see how and when they informed us of this downtime.

there was no mention of it being an emergency or important patch, it was just listed as maintenance.

and no, we dont expect to wait a week to fix an important exploit or bug, if they have the fix for some of those things we are understanding enough to know it needs fixing IF THEY FUCKING TELL US ABOUT IT

and no their forums arent "tied" to the game. they have the ability to bring the forums up or down or enabled or disabled at will.

and the bugs, and there are lots of them, are not so irrelevant that we the playerbase are like teehee oh well, lets just play they arent that important anyways!

the bugs in this game are numerous, also is the buggiest launch ive seen for an mmo in a long time. nothing beats vanguard and mortal online though.

your reply to this entire thread is impulsive and completely false

but you're right, bioware can't win. because they cant stop fucking up

Originally posted by JeroKane

Originally posted by Thodra

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by thamighty213

Maintenance has been extended with no ETA

UPDATE 5:45 AM CST: Today's server maintenance has been extended. At this time, we do not have an estimate for the end of the maintenance. Thank you for your patience.

Seems like they majorly screwed up something and now they dont know how to fix it.

This happens quite often actually, they extend it... not good

There are basically only two possible scenarios here:

1. They discovered yet again a huge exploit that had gone rampant, switched off the servers in panic mode and now twiddeling in how to fix the mess.

2. A patch has gone badly wrong and screwed up the live servers royally and they didn't had a proper fallback plan and don't know how to revert it.... possibly resulting in a rollback of all servers... which might also explain why it's taking so long and them not giving an ETA.

Yea could easely be like that :-)

Extended downtime on a Saturday with no ETA. Fail >_>

Originally posted by Loke666

Originally posted by Complication

read the other posts in this thread before you comment on my OP.

also it was a mixture of sarcasm and disapproval.

and loke, i spend to much money when i go to my local dive bar :D

Duh, you sure? :)

And my reply had none of that, right?

The only way to reply to sarcasm and disapproval is with the same thing.

i guess i should of clarified lol. i was replying to your post and the other guys post above you.

im aware of your posting history on this site since ive been on it so long so i know to take what you say with a grain of salt.

but im still not going to the pub tonight, also because last call ended 3 hours ago :(

Originally posted by Complication

Originally posted by pmaura

So if I understand this, there not allowed to fix things off dedicated times, even if its imporatant. So f an exploit is found wednesday they have to wait ill next tuesday to fix it. Got it.

Also if there forums are tied to there Game thats also not allowed because we need to complain about them fixing the game.

So it actually appears when a company releases a game with bugs its what people want becuase no one wants them to fix it.

Or is it the game has so few bugs people cant understand why there fixing it now since there so irrelevant and just let me play.

Bioware cant win.

and yet you failed to actually read any of the factual replies in this thread or go to the actual forum itself and see how and when they informed us of this downtime.

there was no mention of it being an emergency or important patch, it was just listed as maintenance.

and no, we dont expect to wait a week to fix an important exploit or bug, if they have the fix for some of those things we are understanding enough to know it needs fixing IF THEY FUCKING TELL US ABOUT IT

and no their forums arent "tied" to the game. they have the ability to bring the forums up or down or enabled or disabled at will.

and the bugs, and there are lots of them, are not so irrelevant that we the playerbase are like teehee oh well, lets just play they arent that important anyways!

the bugs in this game are numerous, also is the buggiest launch ive seen for an mmo in a long time. nothing beats vanguard and mortal online though.

your reply to this entire thread is impulsive and completely false

but you're right, bioware can't win. because they cant stop fucking up

Bioware are learning not to tell us of exploits though.

Look at every exploit there has been so far.

They fix them but they take very little action (if any) on the exploiters,   they tell us its an exploit then the first thing that happens is people start repoting people they suspect of this.

If its anything like there normal reporting then they are a joke at it I reported a guy who 3 weeks ago was speed hacking in PVP hes still alive and well on our server now valor 60 with full BM set.   I have outright given up on BW taking retrospective action on players and not just trying to brush these exploits under the rug with stelth fixes disguised as maintenance,

Originally posted by Complication

Originally posted by pmaura

So if I understand this, there not allowed to fix things off dedicated times, even if its imporatant. So f an exploit is found wednesday they have to wait ill next tuesday to fix it. Got it.

Also if there forums are tied to there Game thats also not allowed because we need to complain about them fixing the game.

So it actually appears when a company releases a game with bugs its what people want becuase no one wants them to fix it.

Or is it the game has so few bugs people cant understand why there fixing it now since there so irrelevant and just let me play.

Bioware cant win.

and yet you failed to actually read any of the factual replies in this thread or go to the actual forum itself and see how and when they informed us of this downtime.

there was no mention of it being an emergency or important patch, it was just listed as maintenance.

and no, we dont expect to wait a week to fix an important exploit or bug, if they have the fix for some of those things we are understanding enough to know it needs fixing IF THEY FUCKING TELL US ABOUT IT

and no their forums arent "tied" to the game. they have the ability to bring the forums up or down or enabled or disabled at will.

and the bugs, and there are lots of them, are not so irrelevant that we the playerbase are like teehee oh well, lets just play they arent that important anyways!

the bugs in this game are numerous, also is the buggiest launch ive seen for an mmo in a long time. nothing beats vanguard and mortal online though.

your reply to this entire thread is impulsive and completely false

but you're right, bioware can't win. because they cant stop fucking up

Played all the way to lvl 50 and now leveling another alt. So far i have come across total of 4 bugs and one crash in 200+ hours of game time. Exploits are something that are very common to MMOS and every newly released MMO goes through that phase. So excuse me if i don't believe that 'bugs in game are numerous' BS.

Why don't they just do what EVE does and designate a specific day for patches? rather than just decide a saturday morning (and now seems to be the afternoon) would be fun.

I really feel sorry for the EU players - I really hope other game developers see whats going on and don't repeat this

Originally posted by minocin

Why don't they just do what EVE does and designate a specific day for patches? rather than just decide a saturday morning (and now seems to be the afternoon) would be fun.

They do! They do 8 hour maintenance every Tuesday! /shrug

But now they just took down the servers with no explanation and just label it Maintenance and have no ETA when they come back. lol.

Originally posted by Shivam

Played all the way to lvl 50 and now leveling another alt. So far i have come across total of 4 bugs and one crash in 200+ hours of game time. Exploits are something that are very common to MMOS and every newly released MMO goes through that phase. So excuse me if i don't believe that 'bugs in game are numerous' BS.

That says more about your powers of observation than the bugs in TOR. You just have to look at what the devs have acknowledged and even already fixed. I'm astonished you can not notice so much.

You know the entire reason most are even raging on this is because the forums are so conspicuously down also. Ofc people are going to and blow your forums up with how displeased they are, but sitting there and acting like they are your children and they shouldnt be concerned with grown folk business is wrong.

CCP who by far had one of the roughest 2011 as far as customer/company relations never went as far to take down their forums. The EvE community is 10 if not 20 times more cutthroat and bloodthirty than SW:TOR could ever hope to bolster. Bioware needs to man up and lay in the bed they made.

I really don't want this game to fail not in the least, but I am a consumer/gamer before I am any type of dedication to TOR or BW. In the same fashion as there profit margin comes first in many companies eyes. Like many of people have said; the easiest and most point blank way to get your displeasement across is to unsubscribe.

and I can do that to CCP and EVE, I'll have no issues packing it up on The Old Republic...

Originally posted by Mavacar

I really feel sorry for the EU players - I really hope other game developers see whats going on and don't repeat this

Thx, and also the part why i unsubed... They don't tread EU players well at all.. It's a shock for me, i really thought they would be fair... we all pay the same, we should get the same treament...

Originally posted by Gorilla

Originally posted by Shivam

Played all the way to lvl 50 and now leveling another alt. So far i have come across total of 4 bugs and one crash in 200+ hours of game time. Exploits are something that are very common to MMOS and every newly released MMO goes through that phase. So excuse me if i don't believe that 'bugs in game are numerous' BS.

That says more about your powers of observation than the bugs in TOR. You just have to look at what the devs have acknowledged and even already fixed. I'm astonished you can not notice so much.

So you are telling me i should stop playing the game and go after bugs which are not even effecting my game progression in any way just because i have a point to prove with you guys? yes i came across total of 4 bugs which effected me directly other than that smooth sailing all the way  to 50.

I have seen all the patch notes by the way but i stillf ail to see these 'numerous' bugs. You know what that word means right?

Originally posted by Shivam

Originally posted by Complication

Originally posted by pmaura

So if I understand this, there not allowed to fix things off dedicated times, even if its imporatant. So f an exploit is found wednesday they have to wait ill next tuesday to fix it. Got it.

Also if there forums are tied to there Game thats also not allowed because we need to complain about them fixing the game.

So it actually appears when a company releases a game with bugs its what people want becuase no one wants them to fix it.

Or is it the game has so few bugs people cant understand why there fixing it now since there so irrelevant and just let me play.

Bioware cant win.

and yet you failed to actually read any of the factual replies in this thread or go to the actual forum itself and see how and when they informed us of this downtime.

there was no mention of it being an emergency or important patch, it was just listed as maintenance.

and no, we dont expect to wait a week to fix an important exploit or bug, if they have the fix for some of those things we are understanding enough to know it needs fixing IF THEY FUCKING TELL US ABOUT IT

and no their forums arent "tied" to the game. they have the ability to bring the forums up or down or enabled or disabled at will.

and the bugs, and there are lots of them, are not so irrelevant that we the playerbase are like teehee oh well, lets just play they arent that important anyways!

the bugs in this game are numerous, also is the buggiest launch ive seen for an mmo in a long time. nothing beats vanguard and mortal online though.

your reply to this entire thread is impulsive and completely false

but you're right, bioware can't win. because they cant stop fucking up

Played all the way to lvl 50 and now leveling another alt. So far i have come across total of 4 bugs and one crash in 200+ hours of game time. Exploits are something that are very common to MMOS and every newly released MMO goes through that phase. So excuse me if i don't believe that 'bugs in game are numerous' BS.

bugs my friend, guildies, random pugs, pvp pugs, and I have encountered in swtor since launch:

cut scenes:

invisible lightsabers, missing eyes, massive size differences in npcs in different scenes, spelling errors in subtitles, npc's having seizures randomly, or backround npc's siezing, body parts missing, clipping through world/objects

dungeons:

mobs constantly being out of line of sight regardless of distance you are to them, mobs being immune to any damage and resetting every time you touch them, mobs hitting you from across entire instance, bosses getting stuck and being immune to damage making it so you have to reset entire dungeon to kill it, loot not dropping off bosses, bosses being able to be killed by just running away from it long enough

pvp:

Ilum (enough said), not being able to see players, players clipping through objects/world, interactable objectives not responding, crashing to desktop/select screen on accepting warzone pop, voidstar crashing players

quests:

quest interactive objectives not working, quests not being abandonable, quest mobs not being able to be killed due to the immortal bug, quest objectives not updating with doing what it tells you needing to be abandoned then restarted to work

graphics:

armor showing black on characters and companions depending on ones you wear (social slave girl outfit for example), world disappearing if you turn camera in certain locations of zones...

ughh.. thats just off the top of my head from things again my friend/guldies/pugs/and i have encountered so far in the game.

so you my friend are lucky to of only dealt with 4.

and i have CTD and BSOD and black screen restarted many times along with all of the other people ive been around

EDIT:

BUG: my bff played a bh since launch, he was pissed to get to last bh story quest to find out it was broken and he couldnt finish it.