Originally posted by Icewhite

Revy, just an aside--you can add to your sig (Witchhunter from WAR).  In fact, the dual-pistol thing's older than that, but the big boom in games followed on the heels of the popularity of the WH Manga.

Haha, thanks I will although the witch hunter from WAR used only one pistol :P

Originally posted by dreamsofwar

Originally posted by Moirae

Originally posted by Montaronx

What i still dont get is if this game is truely f2p how come all of my old chars are still blocked from playing?? Allot of race/classes are sill locked. So i cant pay :(

 

You really don't get that? Because f2p games are rarely ever actually f2p. But you know that because thats the way its always been. 

EQ2 really takes the biscuit though.

I downloaded the game, logged in and i was blocked off from most good and evil races, most of the classes were locked except for a few basic ones and i was limited to a handful of neutral races.

"Free to play your way"  just means its a free game but you just have to pay for everything else you want to play.

you're talking like you have some sort of entitlement, they gave you the client free to play and yet you still complain..yes some races are block off for free to play players but you can do all quests up to level 90 and if you really liked the game to play that long you may aswell sub.

Originally posted by Gravarg

Originally posted by Moirae

Here's a shocking idea... how about using all that extra money to fix problems that have existed since the day of release. You know, like the massive memory leak. You start actually using that money for something other than to pad your own pockets and release more content that doesn't work right, and start being honest with your players, and I might consider coming back.

 

It's SOE, profits are all that matter.

Thats all that matters for any company, you're naive to think otherwise.

The next installment of the EQ franchise is very much still in a black box. We’re not talking about it publicly. But I can say this…it’s not your standard MMO. We’re not adhering to any of the ordinary conventions. We are making a game that needs to be made, that definitely is “massive” and truly “multiplayer” (not trumped up single-player content), but we’re not making a game that you expect. As such, it should stand alone nicely and not be a direct competitor to EQII. Of course, if it’s as good as we intend it to be, it might be a competitor anyway, but not because it’s specifically targeting EQII’s type of gameplay.

After this, if EQNext is not a sandbox I am going to be pissed.  :-)  

Looking forward to the info about it being released big time.  It is hard to hold my breath for SOE, because they have let me down many times *cough* (NGE).  But between EQ, SWG, saving vanguard, planetside, and planetside 2...  SOE is hands down the best MMORPG maker out there.  They have been the only big developer willing to spend $$ on sandboxes (SWG), MMOFPS (PS1,PS2) and they have rescued several MMOs (their station pass allowing them to monitize on these games when other devs wouldn't be able to) like MxO and VG.

SOE has a tendency to undermarket their games and make big mistakes post release (like SWGs NGE and Planetside's one and only crummy expansion) but I am still impressed by their willingness to make these games at all and that makes me prefer SOE to any other big MMO company (except maybe CCP but since I do not care for spaceships and their Dust512 game is not going to PC, I have little interest in them).

I agree, with all the hate soe get they still have made some of the best mmo's to date. swg, everquest 2 and planetside are all (was in swg's case) top quality games. Now with planetside 2 and everquest next they remain the top developers of mmo's in the industry. what other company can develope 2  mmo's at the same time?

Originally posted by dreamsofwar

Originally posted by Moirae

Originally posted by Montaronx

What i still dont get is if this game is truely f2p how come all of my old chars are still blocked from playing?? Allot of race/classes are sill locked. So i cant pay :(

 

You really don't get that? Because f2p games are rarely ever actually f2p. But you know that because thats the way its always been. 

EQ2 really takes the biscuit though.

I downloaded the game, logged in and i was blocked off from most good and evil races, most of the classes were locked except for a few basic ones and i was limited to a handful of neutral races.

"Free to play your way"  just means its a free game but you just have to pay for everything else you want to play.

yea I never liked the blocking of classes and races in a game if you want people to enjoy it just make those obvious things free seriously. Otherwise everyone knows it's a money grab. Or better yet make it so that you can unlock them. I don't like grinding but one thing i did like about LOTRO's Ftp model is you could play another class earn store points buy doing things in the game to earn them and build them up to use them on anything you wanted, including race/classes. but they definitely need to remove the block yeah that's just poor design.

Originally posted by SunYam

Originally posted by steelheartx



I hope that they're not planning to make EQ Next console based. Seems SOE is almost hell bent on shifting the MMO genre away from PCs :(

 

Cannot say for 100% but from what I've read EQ Next is suppose to be PS3 and PC.  If they do I really hope PS3 and PC users can play together.  Be nice to play on my PC and then later jump on my PS3 and keep playing.

 

Considering how lazy every developer that has made a crossover MMO has been in the past, don't expect a friendly and customizable PC interface for EQNext.  Yet another piece of crap crossover that screws the PC gamer for some pointless belief that consoles are the superior market.  I had some small interest in how it would turn out, but if they're pushing for PS3, then there is no doubt in my mind that the PC version will be not only inferior, but will require a stupid game controller to even be remotely functional.

Originally posted by nerovipus32

Originally posted by Gravarg

Originally posted by Moirae

Here's a shocking idea... how about using all that extra money to fix problems that have existed since the day of release. You know, like the massive memory leak. You start actually using that money for something other than to pad your own pockets and release more content that doesn't work right, and start being honest with your players, and I might consider coming back.

 

It's SOE, profits are all that matter.

Thats all that matters for any company, you're naive to think otherwise.

 

There is such a thing as a superior product that results in exponential profits, versus a flash in the pan, grab for cash, then burn on to the next cheap product.

Tried the game out, and its still empty. So, 300% of a small number is still a small number.

This isn't a bash, because I really enjoy EQ2. Sadly, I really want to enjoy group content, because its the best rewards.

Also, they need to go back to bundling expansions. I wanted to buy the newest one, but its way overpriced for a pretty "niche" game(read: underpopulated).

Originally posted by Golelorn

Tried the game out, and its still empty. So, 300% of a small number is still a small number.

 

The game on the right servers was never empty.  AB has always been populated, and post merges CB wasnt that far behind.  Freeport of course is also quite populated.

I hope they make EQNext like EQ, before all the LDoN instance crap....But better.

I returned.

I then realized that the reasons why I had left in the first place were still all valid, and left again. Still they did get a few bucks off me (bought some SC in the triple cash sale and bought the latest expansion). Well played SOE.

More PR BS. If "Absolutely zero exodus" then wtf is the rest of my guild? Why does my friends list  say everyone is offline? Maybe if you guys would spend half the time on the game as you do sc items, pvp wouldnt be dead, still broken, and a joke.

Screw EXNext, wtf would anyone play that after the EQ2 dissaster? How you treat customers in EQ2 will have an effect on EQNext.

Originally posted by convict

More PR BS. If "Absolutely zero exodus" then wtf is the rest of my guild? Why does my friends list  say everyone is offline? Maybe if you guys would spend half the time on the game as you do sc items, pvp wouldnt be dead, still broken, and a joke.

Screw EXNext, wtf would anyone play that after the EQ2 dissaster? How you treat customers in EQ2 will have an effect on EQNext.

 

One of the things that made eq and eq2 great was that they didnt cater to PvPers.  EQ1 had no PvP to speak and EQ2 didnt get much til later on in the game's lifestyle.

Originally posted by teakbois

Originally posted by convict

More PR BS. If "Absolutely zero exodus" then wtf is the rest of my guild? Why does my friends list  say everyone is offline? Maybe if you guys would spend half the time on the game as you do sc items, pvp wouldnt be dead, still broken, and a joke.

Screw EXNext, wtf would anyone play that after the EQ2 dissaster? How you treat customers in EQ2 will have an effect on EQNext.

 

One of the things that made eq and eq2 great was that they didnt cater to PvPers.  EQ1 had no PvP to speak and EQ2 didnt get much til later on in the game's lifestyle.

 

That's your opinion, I dissagree, I think what made eq good, was the genre was new. EQ2 isn't doing great, and before they slaughtered pvp, the pvp server was the busiest, now that pvp has been abandoned, it's one of the emptiest.

also-  MMORPG: The Dungeon Maker is a brilliant addition to the game.  Can we expect more functionality now that it seems like the community loves the feature so much?

uh, what's the pay scale from these guys nowadays?

This game has turned to utter crap. I've played since 2005 and back in the earlier days it was great. The game was actually hard and you were rewarded for the work. Players got together and did epic quests that took us to raids that were actually hard. Now the game is all fluff like WoW. Everything is easy and full of fluff items. I logged in one day and there was some stupid race game that took up a large part of a zone. More fluff stuff like WoW.

Note to SoE: We don't want that crap, if we did we would play WoW.

Originally posted by convict

Originally posted by teakbois

Originally posted by convict

More PR BS. If "Absolutely zero exodus" then wtf is the rest of my guild? Why does my friends list  say everyone is offline? Maybe if you guys would spend half the time on the game as you do sc items, pvp wouldnt be dead, still broken, and a joke.

Screw EXNext, wtf would anyone play that after the EQ2 dissaster? How you treat customers in EQ2 will have an effect on EQNext.

 

One of the things that made eq and eq2 great was that they didnt cater to PvPers.  EQ1 had no PvP to speak and EQ2 didnt get much til later on in the game's lifestyle.

 

That's your opinion, I dissagree, I think what made eq good, was the genre was new. EQ2 isn't doing great, and before they slaughtered pvp, the pvp server was the busiest, now that pvp has been abandoned, it's one of the emptiest.

also-  MMORPG: The Dungeon Maker is a brilliant addition to the game.  Can we expect more functionality now that it seems like the community loves the feature so much?

uh, what's the pay scale from these guys nowadays?

 

It wasnt the busiest, AB was busier.  And the PvP servers were what, 10% of the total population?  Why cater to the whiniest portion of the population especially when it can adversely affect the other 90%.

Also:

MMORPG: The Dungeon Maker isnt as crappy as people thought it would be.  Can we expect more functionality now that it seems like the community doesnt hate the feature?

would be the more appropriate question

Dungion finder, and create your own dungion are both failures. All one has to to is go look at the hundreds of post on the eq2 forums to realize how bw bad it is.

There is an obvoius disconect betwween smokejumper and the actual playerbase. As in he does not understand the hundreds of complaints about why it is not working. Instead they give us extra dungion mark days trying to entice folks to play it.

He disappears for a month I kid you not he left for vacation on 12/27 that was his last past until last night on 1/24. Then he shows up and says oh you all missed me lol. Ha we were all hoping that soe had fired his for incompetence, however we have to look at what has happened to realize soe rewards folks for failure. Look at where medley is right now.

All I have to say is look at this sham of an interview, one has to wonder if sj got to write his own questions, so he had answers ready and waiting.

Honestly you cant find a senior producer who is more out of phase with his current customer base than SJ is at the moment. don't believe me here are some threads for you.

discussing this article

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=514084

discussing raid problems

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=513920

discussing lack of content being made except the store cash shop

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=513995

Just take a look see at that stuff and tell me he don't live in la la land now. Sorry but somebody has to call SJ a liar.  The lying about dungeon maker and finder being a huge hit, not true,  the lie about 0 Exodus again not true just look at the threads I posted. I personally canceled my account and the wife's account, and I sent SJ a 5 page letter in his pm box as too why we left.  I know many vets personally who after the aod xpac with zero content in it left as well.  Now were being told hey 4-6 months before the next content update that was supposed to already be finished and it the works to be released.

Trust SJ at your own peril as he is full of it, or at least in the answers he gave in this interview.

Originally posted by teakbois

Originally posted by dagon3

Originally posted by precious328

I e-mailed Smed months ago about EQNext and this was his response:

Me: Being nickel & dimed to death is where the MMO is heading, e.g., cross-promotional items, cash shops, real money auction houses, etc. It's being done by everyone; it's getting old.







Bring it back, John.  A person who purchases the game and pays the monthly fee should be able to obtain any item in the game though hard work.

Smed: I mostly agree with you. However there  is a new reality out there for companies that run online games. That reality is that f2p seems to be the new norm in business models.

 Another thing i would like to add is , all these things there adding to the cash shop are not attainable through hard work , This is one true load of BS especially when it comes to mounts and flyers its almost become pay to win , its not quite there yet but its heading that direction yes not all the items have stats YET , Minus the gear they added with the last x pac for doing dungeons.

But on the direction soe is heading with the game i can almost bet you in the near future they will.

The mounts, all of them already have stats on them , this is just the beggining they will slowly start adding them little by little so nobody notices.

This is why i no longer play .

  That reality is that f2SPEND seems to be the new norm in business models.

 

Its not free to play , its free to log in and spend to play .

 

The only problem with EQ2X is the fact that the initial limitations are too great. The races and classes you have access to are slim and none. This generated a very poor experience if you ask me.

 

 

The mounts have always had stats on them, just like the in game mounts.  they arent superior, nor are they inferior.

The cash shop has been around for a few years now and it hasnt headed down towards pay 2 win, you just assume it will.

 

 

 

 

Really lets take a look!,

These are your free quest mounts well some of them ...

Carpet mount from qst....http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Carpet_of_El%27khazi

Horses after hitting lvl 20  http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Gorowyn_Destrier_Whistle

Even the new flying mounts from quests!  http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Snow_Gryphon

Now some marketplace mounts for ground . You have to buy ..

http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/84658

One example of flying mounts for sale out of many ..You have to buy..

http://eq2wire.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/pegasus_examine.png

Like i said i dont care if you can buy them but make them attainable IN GAME also , Same with all the damn armor and weapons that they beef up the appearance to but somehow forget to add any new ones in the game . If you want nice looking gear your paying for it period , a nice looking mount pay , weapons pay, decorations for your house pay.. Shall i go on .?

No need you get my point .. Anyway i proved my point.

/done with this forum game sucks now end of story..

For me anyway you all enjoy i got 5 years out of it before the free to spend merger...

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I love this post somebody put on the eq2 forums pretty much exactly how it is now!

Dev 1: Now that we got these rubes buying anything we put up for sale ..what are we going to do for content?

Dev 2: I don't know ...making content is such a pain. I wish they could just make thier own content and shut up.

Dev 1: That's it!! .....we will give them tools for them to make thier own content ...Will call it dungeon maker or something.

Dev 2: Do you think they will go for it ?

Dev 1: These fools?? ...of cousre they will ...why pay our guys to make content when I can get these buffoons to make it for us and pay us at the same time.

Dev 2: Great ...I'll send a bunch of guys from our team to work on another game.

Originally posted by SBFord

MMORPG: How have the longtime Veterans of EQ2 responded to the changes? Have you had any exodus, or do you instead see more former players coming back now that the price barrier is gone?

Dave Georgeson: Absolutely zero exodus.

I like EQ2 but cmon - no way thats true

the exodus may have been balanced by new players but some players did leave