Originally posted by Teala

I have a question:  How did this get past beta?

*slowly raises hand far back in the crowd*

.......... my bad.

Originally posted by headphones

Originally posted by Castillle

So if you didnt know...The imperial healers can just waltz over to the heroic area in illum (or other places tbh) and they can just stay there unflagged WHILE HEALING THE NPCS!

It is a huge pain in the ***** and we need this fixed please. At least make those npcs flag people for pvp if theyre healing them! T_T

Sooo annoying to be fighting then a healer comes over, cleanses the CC and starts healing all the npcs x.x Its annoying and its evil and we need it stopped!

Edit : Flagging them for pvp would be the best solution so we can flip out and kick their *****

 

 

Link

 

What do you guys think?

first time i've seen an mmo where the griefers all roll healers.

Made my day ;)

Originally posted by Suraknar

I think that I really like the cute bunny in your Avatar picture. :)

I eat bunnies, yum.

Originally posted by ryman

Originally posted by Suraknar

I think that I really like the cute bunny in your Avatar picture. :)

I eat bunnies, yum.

Bunnies have access to rockie launchers! Fear them!!!

As for the griefers rolling healers...I think its because the Inquisitor healer is the single most played class cuz of their force lightning n stuff...But they can spec to be a healer!

Originally posted by Mithrandolir

Originally posted by dreamscaper

Originally posted by Rabiator

Originally posted by Fed1

Being able to heal MOBS of your faction is a sandbox feature. I have no problem with it as long as the healer is then flagged PvP.

 

This.

BTW, EVE Online does it this way too, if outsiders interfere in high sec PvP:

You support one of the combatants, you become a legitimate target for his opponents. In the two years I played EVE, I have heard no complains about this concept.

 

Both you and the quoted poster are fundamentally misunderstanding the problem. There's nothing wrong with healing a combatant - the problem is when said healer is immune to any form of retaliation, as is the case for the OP.

Both people you quoted said exactly what you just said.

Still rofling over this o.o LOL

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Originally posted by Teala
I have a question:  How did this get past beta?

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One other thing that people may have not realised is that on a PvE server an empire player can heal a rebel, as long as both are unflagged (tbh I haven't tried it with me flagging).

Originally posted by Xasapis

One other thing that people may have not realised is that on a PvE server an empire player can heal a rebel, as long as both are unflagged (tbh I haven't tried it with me flagging).

While unusual, this is not really an issue though, is it? If the part about both unflagged is accurate.

Originally posted by Castillle

So if you didnt know...The imperial healers can just waltz over to the heroic area in illum (or other places tbh) and they can just stay there unflagged WHILE HEALING THE NPCS!

It is a huge pain in the ***** and we need this fixed please. At least make those npcs flag people for pvp if theyre healing them! T_T

Sooo annoying to be fighting then a healer comes over, cleanses the CC and starts healing all the npcs x.x Its annoying and its evil and we need it stopped!

Edit : Flagging them for pvp would be the best solution so we can flip out and kick their *****

 

 

Link

 

What do you guys think?

This is one of the better things I found in Lineage II. If you didn't want to PK bots, you just healed their mobs till the mobs killed the bots.

I do agree though, that healing PC's should flag one for PvP, regardles of the server you play on. I think BioWare should add this as fix to this 'problem'.

A ban as 2nd poster proposed? No way! You're playing a MMO and are in a PvP area (well, I guess it is :p). If BioWare is smart, they do the proposed fix and the 'harasment' will be less than before.

But still, IMO this is a legit PvP tactiv to be used...

Originally posted by Castillle

So if you didnt know...The imperial healers can just waltz over to the heroic area in illum (or other places tbh) and they can just stay there unflagged WHILE HEALING THE NPCS!

It is a huge pain in the ***** and we need this fixed please. At least make those npcs flag people for pvp if theyre healing them! T_T

Sooo annoying to be fighting then a healer comes over, cleanses the CC and starts healing all the npcs x.x Its annoying and its evil and we need it stopped!

Edit : Flagging them for pvp would be the best solution so we can flip out and kick their *****

 

 

Link

 

What do you guys think?

I think you need to cancel your sub.  Seriously.  All these problems are a representation of BW/Mythic/EA as a whole.  This is an example of bad game design showing how the devs cut corners and do not fully think out the mechanics they implement.  It won't stop.  Every new content release will showcase more and more of these bad designs.  The same exact thing happened with Warhammer.

Ask yourself this: How much are you willing to put up with?

Originally posted by Sovrath

People used to do this in Lineage 2. Healers would show up at enemy raids and start healing the raid boss.

There also used to be an issue with out of party healers healing "reds" as they didn't, at the time, flag for pvp. They later changed that.

I'm all for being creative in pvp but this seems to fall outside the scope of what the game should be.

Reminds me of some cardinal % healing antharas during a raid lol.

Anyway this seems like the sort of issue that was probably a side effect of some change they didnt think it would affect much.

TRION Worlds fixed the same stuff for Rift - during beta

"Healing NPC Guards during invasion = red name" on next beta session voila all done

Just log on TOR website and make a suggestion, shouldn't be a biggie

Originally posted by Castillle

So if you didnt know...The imperial healers can just waltz over to the heroic area in illum (or other places tbh) and they can just stay there unflagged WHILE HEALING THE NPCS!

It is a huge pain in the ***** and we need this fixed please. At least make those npcs flag people for pvp if theyre healing them! T_T

Sooo annoying to be fighting then a healer comes over, cleanses the CC and starts healing all the npcs x.x Its annoying and its evil and we need it stopped!

Edit : Flagging them for pvp would be the best solution so we can flip out and kick their *****

 

 

Link

 

What do you guys think?

such is life in a PvE game.

Originally posted by Castillle

So if you didnt know...The imperial healers can just waltz over to the heroic area in illum (or other places tbh) and they can just stay there unflagged WHILE HEALING THE NPCS!

It is a huge pain in the ***** and we need this fixed please. At least make those npcs flag people for pvp if theyre healing them! T_T

Sooo annoying to be fighting then a healer comes over, cleanses the CC and starts healing all the npcs x.x Its annoying and its evil and we need it stopped!

Edit : Flagging them for pvp would be the best solution so we can flip out and kick their *****

 

 

Link

 

What do you guys think?

That's unfortunate. It's one reason I roll on PvP servers! But yes, it'd probably be a good idea to steal SWG's 'Temporary Enemy Flag' for overt actions such as this.

Originally posted by Mithrandolir

Originally posted by dreamscaper

Originally posted by Rabiator

Originally posted by Fed1

Being able to heal MOBS of your faction is a sandbox feature. I have no problem with it as long as the healer is then flagged PvP.

 

This.

BTW, EVE Online does it this way too, if outsiders interfere in high sec PvP:

You support one of the combatants, you become a legitimate target for his opponents. In the two years I played EVE, I have heard no complains about this concept.

 

Both you and the quoted poster are fundamentally misunderstanding the problem. There's nothing wrong with healing a combatant - the problem is when said healer is immune to any form of retaliation, as is the case for the OP.

Both people you quoted said exactly what you just said.

Yep, that's what I get for posting when I'm half asleep.

However, my post wasn't completely off base, thankfully - they're both talking about healing friendly mobs flagging you for pvp, which according to the OP isn't the case in TOR.

Originally posted by Fed1

Being able to heal MOBS of your faction is a sandbox feature. I have no problem with it as long as the healer is then flagged PvP.

Considering the fact that I get flagged for PvP every time I just buff another player that happens to be flagged, you'd think it would.

If it's not flagging someone for PvP that is actively healing the NPCs for their faction, then it's a bug.

It seems to be "working as intended"

Originally posted by MikeB

That's unfortunate. It's one reason I roll on PvP servers! But yes, it'd probably be a good idea to steal SWG's 'Temporary Enemy Flag' for overt actions such as this.

PVP?  Le gasp!!

Pretty sure the devs have taken notice though! The thread I made there reached a ton of posts :O:O

That title...it's so unlike a normal PVP thread title...I feel reality shifting.