Originally posted by Sovrath

People used to do this in Lineage 2. Healers would show up at enemy raids and start healing the raid boss.

There also used to be an issue with out of party healers healing "reds" as they didn't, at the time, flag for pvp. They later changed that.

I'm all for being creative in pvp but this seems to fall outside the scope of what the game should be.

Let's not mince words. It's an exploit, plain and simple.

I had republic Jedi Shadows gripping me into groups of mobs while I was trying to do a quest, kept gripping me into different groups and running away making me take durability loss.   I tried waiting a few hours and they were still there doing it.

Griefing happens.

:-s

Edit:  If they are in fact exploiting report them and lets hope they get banned.

I mean they claim that they have really good "in game metrics" to be able to pin point offenders and punish them.  Lets hope they do.

EA killed DAoC, hence they don't care about PvP. 

But man, how about that cute bunny?  I love that bunny!

Being able to heal MOBS of your faction is a sandbox feature. I have no problem with it as long as the healer is then flagged PvP.

It's probably an easy fix that was overlooked.

Originally posted by xBlackBoxX

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Speaking as a Healer.  I know that if I heal someone that is actively engaged in or flagged for PvP, it will PvP flag me as a Healer.  If Imperial Healers are “Exploiting” unintentional play mechanics then they should be held in violation T.O.S exploit clause.

Originally posted by 4bsolute

You never bite the hand that feeds you.

Go on insulting tanks and healers in your current MMO, and I can guarantee you, you will have a bad, bad time.

But one have to figure out for himself, isnt it so...

Very true. However, how does this relate to the current discussion?

Healing a flagged NPC should flag you for PvP. The healing itself is a perfectly viable strategy, but you should have to actually participate in the PvP, which means you need to be flagged.

Originally posted by Fed1

Being able to heal MOBS of your faction is a sandbox feature. I have no problem with it as long as the healer is then flagged PvP.

 

This.

BTW, EVE Online does it this way too, if outsiders interfere in high sec PvP:

You support one of the combatants, you become a legitimate target for his opponents. In the two years I played EVE, I have heard no complains about this concept.

Originally posted by Creslin321

BWAHAHA!

I remember these kind of issues...in UO...in 1999.

You would think an MMORPG developed in 2011 would know not to allow players to heal MOBs ;).

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. This game “Feels” like it was made by people who have never experienced an MMO.  Clear sign that no lessons have been learned in this segment of the  industry. 

Originally posted by Teala

I have a question:  How did this get past beta?

I am not sure..it was there during beta...i was on Illum alone a lot of times due to being maxed before many and played around with all the npcs when i found this..i emailed the dev team directly and recieved a confirmation that they had recieved and will look into it blah blah blah.....guess they didnt have time to check it out?

Originally posted by Rabiator

Originally posted by Fed1

Being able to heal MOBS of your faction is a sandbox feature. I have no problem with it as long as the healer is then flagged PvP.

 

This.

BTW, EVE Online does it this way too, if outsiders interfere in high sec PvP:

You support one of the combatants, you become a legitimate target for his opponents. In the two years I played EVE, I have heard no complains about this concept.

Both you and the quoted poster are fundamentally misunderstanding the problem. There's nothing wrong with healing a combatant - the problem is when said healer is immune to any form of retaliation, as is the case for the OP.

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Originally posted by dreamscaper

Originally posted by Rabiator

Originally posted by Fed1

Being able to heal MOBS of your faction is a sandbox feature. I have no problem with it as long as the healer is then flagged PvP.

 

This.

BTW, EVE Online does it this way too, if outsiders interfere in high sec PvP:

You support one of the combatants, you become a legitimate target for his opponents. In the two years I played EVE, I have heard no complains about this concept.

 

Both you and the quoted poster are fundamentally misunderstanding the problem. There's nothing wrong with healing a combatant - the problem is when said healer is immune to any form of retaliation, as is the case for the OP.

Both people you quoted said exactly what you just said.

Originally posted by Mithrandolir

Originally posted by dreamscaper

Originally posted by Rabiator

Originally posted by Fed1

Being able to heal MOBS of your faction is a sandbox feature. I have no problem with it as long as the healer is then flagged PvP.

 

This.

BTW, EVE Online does it this way too, if outsiders interfere in high sec PvP:

You support one of the combatants, you become a legitimate target for his opponents. In the two years I played EVE, I have heard no complains about this concept.

 

Both you and the quoted poster are fundamentally misunderstanding the problem. There's nothing wrong with healing a combatant - the problem is when said healer is immune to any form of retaliation, as is the case for the OP.

Both people you quoted said exactly what you just said.

ROFL. Gotta love MMORPG.com, good comic relief. 

Originally posted by lizardbones

Healing a flagged NPC should flag you for PvP. The healing itself is a perfectly viable strategy, but you should have to actually participate in the PvP, which means you need to be flagged.

    I have to agree with this personally, though I do find it a funny situation none the less.  Even funnier is that the OP seems to feel that posting his complaint here will do something.  Apparently he doesn't know about the official forums.

Originally posted by Castillle

So if you didnt know...The imperial healers can just waltz over to the heroic area in illum (or other places tbh) and they can just stay there unflagged WHILE HEALING THE NPCS!

It is a huge pain in the ***** and we need this fixed please. At least make those npcs flag people for pvp if theyre healing them! T_T

Sooo annoying to be fighting then a healer comes over, cleanses the CC and starts healing all the npcs x.x Its annoying and its evil and we need it stopped!

Edit : Flagging them for pvp would be the best solution so we can flip out and kick their *****

 

 

Link

 

What do you guys think?

first time i've seen an mmo where the griefers all roll healers.

Originally posted by GMan3

Originally posted by lizardbones

Healing a flagged NPC should flag you for PvP. The healing itself is a perfectly viable strategy, but you should have to actually participate in the PvP, which means you need to be flagged.

    I have to agree with this personally, though I do find it a funny situation none the less.  Even funnier is that the OP seems to feel that posting his complaint here will do something.  Apparently he doesn't know about the official forums.

i found it more amusing the number of people who seemed to think it was okay healers don't get flagged. and the number who thanked him for the idea so they can go out and grief other players in this way themselves.

judging solely on that thread and its replies, you can really pick the demographic...

Originally posted by StSynner

Originally posted by Teala

I have a question:  How did this get past beta?

Same way everything else got past beta. lol.

 

 

... in this and every other game where things haven't been 100% perfect after launch.

Originally posted by StSynner

Originally posted by Teala

I have a question:  How did this get past beta?

Same way everything else got past beta. lol.

 

 

My response would be:   George Zoeller

I probably spelled his name wrong... he made some comments during an interview.. which pretty much explain how things made it through beta.

It was in regards to how they didn't invite people to beta for feedback or bug reporting.   It was simply to make fans feel like part of the process... because they discovered all issues "in house" ...