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General Discussion  » A message to bw over datacron farming.

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  Creslin321

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Joined: 2/27/09
Posts: 3630

1/23/12 12:45:11 PM#21
Originally posted by udon

I added the primary stat ones up for my bounty hunter and including the +10 to everything one from the fleet station it's a +40 bonus if get them all to my primary stat of aim.  

With diminishing returns that's a very very small bonus at 50 (less than 1%) even in blue gear.

 Ah okay, well that's good to hear.

  Wickedjelly

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1/23/12 12:46:34 PM#22
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by Wickedjelly

Seriously? With everything there is going on with this game this is your main gripe? Datacrons? They're fluff anyways and as others pointed out meant to be treated more like easter eggs than anything else.

 Is the attribute bonus you get from them significant though?  I got like 2 or 3 before I stopped playing and they gave permanent increases to my attributes.  At this point, I worried that these increases would actually be pretty important and I would have to get these stupid datacrons with each character.

Does anyone know if this is the case?  If you don't get the datacrons are you gimping yourself?

Not really. In the whole scheme of things the few points you get from those are rather insignificant. Especially when you consider how much per point things change. An extremely minor benefit getting those really.

Probably the ones with the most significance believe it or not are the presence ones because outside of stims or selecting abilities in your talent tree there really isn't a way to increase that far as I have seen besides leveling.

...and frankly boosting presence even by a few points seems to be rather significant with how well your companion can do. Moreso than equipment seems to do for them from what I have seen.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  sfc1971

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1/23/12 12:49:48 PM#23

I think they went overboard.

On the start planet, the datacrons are fairly easy to get if you explore. They are a reward for wandering off the beaten track, for looking around. Basically you are the squirrel having to find the route to the nut.

But the one on Nar Shadaa with all the jumping? That just is no fun. To many jumps and no safety net that stops you having to start from the beginning say halfway.

Ever heard of a game called Tomb Raider? It wasn't just big because of the titties, it was big because it was the first platform game that did not require micro-precission jumping. I know, I SUCK at thosetype of games but enjoyed and completed Tomb Raider while having fun and enjoying it.

It seems pretty clear to me that the datacrons were setup by different designers. Ideas were shared by the short ride on the Nar Shaddaa vs the Tatooine balloon ride shows one designer got laid and the other did not.

MMO's are mass market games and should be fun to play. If a game is not fun anymore, people stop playing it. Nobody cares in a single player game since you already voted FOR the game when you bought it but in MMO land you can vote with your dollars each and every month.

People aren't going to quit over datacrons but datacrons could well be the straw the broke the camels back for many a subscriber down the road.

  Talin

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1/23/12 12:55:01 PM#24

These are the equivalent of easter eggs with a minor stat bonus, why does it matter what they make you do to get them?

I think this was a great idea, and the fact that they are "hard" to find/obtain in some instances is a positive, not a negative.

Just an FYI, at lvl 26 I haven't found a single one yet and don't notice the absence at all. I may go back and collect them at some point, but am casually going through the story now and in no hurry or need to min/max.

  monarc333

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1/23/12 1:22:39 PM#25
Originally posted by Welles

Theres one on alderaan fat toons can't even fit through the hole to get it . My patience has run dry on this single player platform crap.

 

What I have to pay the 12 year old down the street  thats an xbox live junkie to get these things?  Stupid design an mmo should be an mmo not a super mario bros platform jumper.

They fixed the one on Alderaan fyi.

  noncley

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Joined: 1/16/12
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1/23/12 2:07:20 PM#26
Originally posted by Welles

From those of us that hate doing 5+ precise jumps. This is the manifistation of our rage and frustration.



 

LOL.

Quite right.

'Exploration' does not mean 'finding the five active pixels on a screen that will project you forward one metre at a time after a three hour search'

  Wickedjelly

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The Dude abides

1/23/12 2:09:52 PM#27
Originally posted by Talin

These are the equivalent of easter eggs with a minor stat bonus, why does it matter what they make you do to get them?

I think this was a great idea, and the fact that they are "hard" to find/obtain in some instances is a positive, not a negative.

Just an FYI, at lvl 26 I haven't found a single one yet and don't notice the absence at all. I may go back and collect them at some point, but am casually going through the story now and in no hurry or need to min/max.

At this point the whole thing is silly anyways. Most of these folks are simply looking up their locations on the web and tracking them down. Then get irritated if they have some trouble still finding them or getting to them.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  catlana

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1/23/12 2:42:57 PM#28

The datacrons are a platformer's dream and my night mare rolled into one. Some of the datacrons are far too frustrating to be believe. Yes, I know that the datacrons are not significant but I am a completionist. 

  Wickedjelly

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1/23/12 2:49:08 PM#29
Originally posted by catlana

The datacrons are a platformer's dream and my night mare rolled into one. Some of the datacrons are far too frustrating to be believe. Yes, I know that the datacrons are not significant but I am a completionist. 

Now those are the ones that are going to go nuts over getting these XD

Also, the very ones these were mainly put in for in the first place.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  SuperXero89

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Posts: 2187

1/23/12 2:51:56 PM#30

I stopped getting datacrons on Taris.  If I would have come across any during my travels, I would have attempted to loot them, but I simply never saw any and felt no motivation to seek them out.  I'm just waiting on raid guilds to require my having all datacrons before I can raid, so I can complain about the system being too similar to LotRO's crappy deed/trait system, but only time will tell if they become that important.

  Kaocan

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1/23/12 3:16:59 PM#31

Hahahahaha.

 

Seriously, not a major issue. Some are a pain to get to, some take teamwork. All give a bonus which may or may not be important enough for you. The point is to give reward for the time and effort spent. Spent the time, get a reward, dont want to spend the time, don't get a reward. 

As for alts, yes you have to get on each. I find the alts easier to get since I know where to go, and how to do it. First time thru may have taken me 35 min to get it, next alt its a 5 min grab while I'm running past doing a quest there. Really isn't an issue.

 

Here is one of the sites I use to get them, look, read, see for yourself. And hey, I'm over 40 (OLD), not a platformer, and I can do these without much trouble. If I can do it I'm sure all you young whipper-snappers can (shakes cane).

 

http://www.swtor-spy.com/datacrons/

(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)

  Beanpuie

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Joined: 6/15/07
Posts: 616

1/23/12 4:16:21 PM#32

PFffffffffffftt....     I knew all that 3D World Runner Training would come in handy some day!

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