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1/23/12 1:11:13 PM#61
Originally posted by Snaylor47 I havent played TOR but i heard that you can have your pets craft for you. is this correct? if so that has to be the worst crafting system ever. to me its just a legal bot. imo thats not inovation. thats laziness |
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1/23/12 1:14:08 PM#62
Everquest II and DDO have voice acting.. new my ass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJcoWP2QHF4
for example |
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1/23/12 1:14:18 PM#63
Originally posted by kantseeme Ever play EvE? Its a bit like that. You gather materials via missions or the world then you send your companion out to craft which takes anywhere from a few minutes to a couple of hours to craft an item. |
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1/23/12 1:14:55 PM#64
Originally posted by kantseeme Yeah it's true, but it's not as terrible as you think. You have to "command" them to do each crafting task. So you can't just say "gather stuff all day" you have to actually send them out on each gather mission. I don't think it's incredibly innovative, because crafting is essentially the same, but it's not really game-breaking either. Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob? |
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1/23/12 1:15:42 PM#65
Originally posted by evilhuman In the way/scale that its implemented it is pretty new.
Thats like saying the combat TSW and GW2 have isn't new becaue Vindictus has done skill based combat. |
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1/23/12 1:18:02 PM#66
Originally posted by evilhuman I agree. Voice acting, just used to a great extent, does not qualify as innovative. It's just a nice "AAA" feature, that's it. This is not to say that voice acting can't be part of an innovative feature. For example...Bastion. It has voice acting, but it used it in an innovative manner. Specifically, a narrator constantly narrates your exploits as you play...innovative. SWTOR though? Voice acting is used in a very traditional manner. Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob? |
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1/23/12 1:18:52 PM#67
[Quote]"So, I don't know, it's just the way it is, but I don't see us as not being innovative. We're actually a lot more innovative within the MMO space than comparable games in other spaces like the first-person genre, the action genre - games like that." -James Ohlen[/Quote]
But this isnt a first-person or action style game, its a mmorpg. Not mmofps, mmorts, mmoblah blah blah... Compared to EVE and even SWG space combat, its not innovating at all. It was kinda cool the first few, then got boring. Sorry for those that disagree. But it could have been so much more with the 200+ million and several years of polishing. |
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1/23/12 1:19:30 PM#68
Originally posted by Snaylor47 I don't think that "having skill-based combat" is innovative in and of itself. But wouldn't cross-profession combos be innovative? Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob? |
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1/23/12 1:19:57 PM#69
Originally posted by Snaylor47
and UO before that, and it's true so what is your point? it is not new
if you take something that exists but go nuts on it, makes it bigger.. not "a new way"
if I make a pie made out of butterflies and you go ahead and make 10 pies with butterflies.. that does not make it "new" |
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1/23/12 1:23:14 PM#70
about "not being innovative" just look at those textures:
2011 vs 2003 |
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1/23/12 1:26:16 PM#71
Originally posted by Scorchien LOL where's the like button on this thing? |
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1/23/12 1:28:20 PM#72
Originally posted by Creslin321 You agreeing with the guy about the EQ comparison is like someone else saying GW2 DEs are not innovative because Rift and WAR already did them. You and I both know that's not an accurate statement, nor was the EQ2 comparison. This all goes back to what innovation actually means. It doesn't just mean something is brand new and never done before. For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson If you can't argue the point don't say anything at all. |
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1/23/12 1:28:23 PM#73
Originally posted by dronfwar As someone who is playing on a four year old computer, Awesome. |
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1/23/12 1:30:50 PM#74
Originally posted by Snaylor47 Aside from the voice acting and sending your crew members to craft while you do other things, what exactly is that innovative? I can't lie, I enjoyed leveling up in this game. The story did make the experience better imo. Aside from that, though... I can't think of anything else innovative about this game. So I don't think I would use the word EXTREME. |
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1/23/12 1:31:44 PM#75
Originally posted by Distopia Actually no it's not because Rift and War had timed events NOT dynamic. No one's ever done dynamic before, where the NPC's in an area can affect the next stage of an event, and the events change from time to time, they aren't the same ones over and over and over in the same spot. Actually innovative means both something that's never done before and something that's been improved upon, look it up there are two major dictionaries with conflicting definitions. So yeah, the dev could claim it's innovative with the second definition however it's still not new. |
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1/23/12 1:31:49 PM#76
Originally posted by Snaylor47
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1/23/12 1:32:51 PM#77
It has lightsabers... |
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1/23/12 1:33:01 PM#78
Originally posted by Distopia Hmm... I just don't see the argument for SWTOR's implementation of VO being innovative. I would be happy to hear a good argument for the case of SWTOR's VO being innovative if this is what you believe. Going along with your argument, if GW2 did DEs in the exact same way that Rift's...rifts and invasions works but just had more of them...then no, it wouldn't be innovative. Rift's public questing system was innovative when compared to WAR's (it's fundamentally different). And I think GW2's public questing system will be innovative when compared to Rift. Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob? |
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1/23/12 1:33:35 PM#79
Originally posted by Creslin321 SO pets can fight for you, gather for you and craft for you? and i read that you have 6 pets. can you make all 6 work for you at the same time?
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1/23/12 1:35:34 PM#80
Originally posted by kantseeme Yep, that's what I hear. You can only have one with you at a time, but you can send ALL of them out on missions or crafting tasks at the same time. Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob? |
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