Originally posted by vesavius

In fact, it often takes a great actor to play a convincing villain, and so in a way it's often an acknowledgement of the excellent talent we export in that area.

It definitely is a compliment. Something that I've always noted and that my girlfriend recently brought up is that there are a lot of great actors from across the pond.

Must be something in the water.

I love the voice acting, specially the Bounty Hunter one which is the class I play, it reminds me of  the actor for the character Garrett from the thief series.

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by vesavius

In fact, it often takes a great actor to play a convincing villain, and so in a way it's often an acknowledgement of the excellent talent we export in that area.

It definitely is a compliment. Something that I've always noted and that my girlfriend recently brought up is that there are a lot of great actors from across the pond.

Must be something in the water.

It's because to become involved in US movies as a European you generally have to be a very good actor, while as an NA citizen it's enough to just look to Hollywood standards while having the acting talent of a brick wall.

Originally posted by TheNitewolf

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by vesavius

In fact, it often takes a great actor to play a convincing villain, and so in a way it's often an acknowledgement of the excellent talent we export in that area.

It definitely is a compliment. Something that I've always noted and that my girlfriend recently brought up is that there are a lot of great actors from across the pond.

Must be something in the water.

It's because to become involved in US movies as a European you generally have to be a very good actor, while as an NA citizen it's enough to just look to Hollywood standards while having the acting talent of a brick wall.

I'm not even talking about US movies. I've seen plenty of foreign movies where the Europeans are just good. There are too many US "actors" who are actors because they look good and therefore think they can act.

I am an Englishman and will confess to being relatively well spoken. My Italian gamer friends joke its "like the perfect english they learned in school", never sure if that is good or not!

I am not offended I am simply bemused by all of this. I know USA and the UK have had our share of wars, you won the whole War of Independence and we burnt down the Whitehouse, stopped your invasion of Canada and won the war of 1812 (debateable). But why are we still the villains? Its been 200 years since 1812! It does make me chuckle though to hear the different regional dialects spoken by the Empire.

Sadly I play republic and am forced to listen to an American accent (Kills all immersion immediately) and fight people with a fellow English accent. It shouldn't make a difference to game enjoyment but sadly it does. Like an itch or ache that won't quite go away...

Ah well,

God Save the Queen.

Originally posted by DeaconX

Originally posted by TROLL_HARD

I'm American, but I had a hard time accepting the dorky way all the Jedi speak. The voice doesn't at all look like my character (I  tried to make him look like Michael Jordan...lol).

 

 

My best friend is black - he made a black character and felt the exact same way.  He thought none of the voices sounded 'right' or even close for his character and thus the voiced player character was actually offputting to him.

Personally, the only voice acting I actually liked was for the Bounty Hunter.

i agree as well. I think they should have hired Lester Speight (cole train voice actor) to do voice overs for dark skinned male character creation choices. That would have been just perfect.... "Look at all that juice!!!!!!!!" after shocking vette LOL

Originally posted by rojo6934

Originally posted by DeaconX

Originally posted by TROLL_HARD
 

I'm American, but I had a hard time accepting the dorky way all the Jedi speak. The voice doesn't at all look like my character (I  tried to make him look like Michael Jordan...lol). 

My best friend is black - he made a black character and felt the exact same way.  He thought none of the voices sounded 'right' or even close for his character and thus the voiced player character was actually offputting to him.

Personally, the only voice acting I actually liked was for the Bounty Hunter.

i agree as well. I think they should have hired Lester Speight (cole train voice actor) to do voice overs for dark skinned male character creation choices. That would have been just perfect.... "Look at all that juice!!!!!!!!" after shocking vette LOL

    This is about the most racist group of posts I have seen on a gaming forum so far.  Good job all.

Originally posted by GMan3

Originally posted by rojo6934

Originally posted by DeaconX

Originally posted by TROLL_HARD
 

I'm American, but I had a hard time accepting the dorky way all the Jedi speak. The voice doesn't at all look like my character (I  tried to make him look like Michael Jordan...lol). 

My best friend is black - he made a black character and felt the exact same way.  He thought none of the voices sounded 'right' or even close for his character and thus the voiced player character was actually offputting to him.

Personally, the only voice acting I actually liked was for the Bounty Hunter.

i agree as well. I think they should have hired Lester Speight (cole train voice actor) to do voice overs for dark skinned male character creation choices. That would have been just perfect.... "Look at all that juice!!!!!!!!" after shocking vette LOL

    This is about the most racist group of posts I have seen on a gaming forum so far.  Good job all.

are you taht sensible that cant hear / read the word black or dark skinned without getting offended and call one racist? i may be white but im from the caribbean, i got black family members and in the caribbean nobody gets offended by talking that way unless its an insult. Just making it clear  :) 

the people i quoted in my post actually made sense. Voice overs should have accents by region instead of factions

Originally posted by TROLL_HARD

Originally posted by tillamook

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1320395/fullcredits#cast

Nice link.

Yeah defintiely nice link, I was lucking for this... didn't think to look here.

One of my mates and me are both Brits living in Texas. We generally laugh at the the accent, for me it's just as funny to speak to an Imperial soldier with a Geordie acccent as it is to speak to a Twilek criminal with a New Jersey accent, I like my BH handlers southern US accent. I like my Sith Inquisitors accent and also my Bounty Hunter.

To add to what the another poster said, Brits generally get cast in both evil and non-American roles so they sound foreign,

Originally posted by GMan3

Originally posted by rojo6934

Originally posted by DeaconX

Originally posted by TROLL_HARD
 

I'm American, but I had a hard time accepting the dorky way all the Jedi speak. The voice doesn't at all look like my character (I  tried to make him look like Michael Jordan...lol). 

My best friend is black - he made a black character and felt the exact same way.  He thought none of the voices sounded 'right' or even close for his character and thus the voiced player character was actually offputting to him.

Personally, the only voice acting I actually liked was for the Bounty Hunter.

i agree as well. I think they should have hired Lester Speight (cole train voice actor) to do voice overs for dark skinned male character creation choices. That would have been just perfect.... "Look at all that juice!!!!!!!!" after shocking vette LOL

    This is about the most racist group of posts I have seen on a gaming forum so far.  Good job all.

Going forward, any British people of African decent shall be hence forth known as Britanicus-Africana....  happy now?

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Originally posted by rojo6934

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Originally posted by GMan3

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Originally posted by rojo6934

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Originally posted by DeaconX

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Originally posted by TROLL_HARD
 
I'm American, but I had a hard time accepting the dorky way all the Jedi speak. The voice doesn't at all look like my character (I  tried to make him look like Michael Jordan...lol). 

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My best friend is black - he made a black character and felt the exact same way.  He thought none of the voices sounded 'right' or even close for his character and thus the voiced player character was actually offputting to him.
Personally, the only voice acting I actually liked was for the Bounty Hunter.

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i agree as well. I think they should have hired Lester Speight (cole train voice actor) to do voice overs for dark skinned male character creation choices. That would have been just perfect.... "Look at all that juice!!!!!!!!" after shocking vette LOL

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    This is about the most racist group of posts I have seen on a gaming forum so far.  Good job all.

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are you taht sensible that cant hear / read the word black or dark skinned without getting offended and call one racist? i may be white but im from the caribbean, i got black family members and in the caribbean nobody gets offended by talking that way unless its an insult. Just making it clear  :) 
the people i quoted in my post actually made sense. Voice overs should have accents by region instead of factions

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I'm glad I'm not alone in this.  I'm actually a Scot, but I was raised in southwest england.

I asked a friend about why he thought the VO's for all imps were upperclass englishmen and he pointed to the corrusant accent crap, which could be used as a viable excuse in the pictures, but not in this lore period.  It's just lame stereotypes which I don't really find offensive, just lazy.

As for the dwarf=scottish in WoW;  I can't say I'm too offended because every single race is heavily stereotyped towards a specific group.

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by vesavius

In fact, it often takes a great actor to play a convincing villain, and so in a way it's often an acknowledgement of the excellent talent we export in that area.

It definitely is a compliment. Something that I've always noted and that my girlfriend recently brought up is that there are a lot of great actors from across the pond.

Must be something in the water.  

Nah! it simply we, the English that is, are great con men and habitual liars its been past down through the centuries, we make great Authors & Spy's as well for the same reasons. 

Originally posted by ShakyMo

Originally posted by Chieftan

Going back to the original trilogy I always took it as a reference to the British Empire. Not very long ago the Brits were in a habit of colonizing and siphoning off as many countries as they could...Bridge over the River Kwai was Alec Guiness's greatest achievement as an actor.

It was a compliment as well though--Guiness and the guy who played Moff Tarkin were brought in to add legitimacy and weight to a very fantastical movie full of unknown actors.

Really it was most noticeable in ESB and frankly, it worked.

the bridge over the river kwai wasn't about british imperialism

It was about british POWs and Japanese imperialism.

Wrong.

The British fought three seperate wars in the 1800s to take control of Burma and add it to their growing Empire.  In 1884, they succeeded.

In 1942 the Japanese invaded the BRITISH COLONY of Burma.  They soon realized they needed a railway to connect Burma to neighboring Thailand.  The Bridge over the River Kwai was one section of that railway.

One of the poignant messages in the film was the indignity of a self-respecting leader and his men being forced to work for an invading imperialistic army.  In the film, Alec Guiness' character strongly resists the Japanese efforts to build the bridge, strongly correlating the Burmese and neighboring Indians resistance to BRITISH rule.

History, ain't if fun?

Originally posted by Chieftan

Originally posted by ShakyMo

Originally posted by Chieftan

Going back to the original trilogy I always took it as a reference to the British Empire. Not very long ago the Brits were in a habit of colonizing and siphoning off as many countries as they could...Bridge over the River Kwai was Alec Guiness's greatest achievement as an actor.

It was a compliment as well though--Guiness and the guy who played Moff Tarkin were brought in to add legitimacy and weight to a very fantastical movie full of unknown actors.

Really it was most noticeable in ESB and frankly, it worked.

the bridge over the river kwai wasn't about british imperialism

It was about british POWs and Japanese imperialism.

Wrong.

The British fought three seperate wars in the 1800s to take control of Burma and add it to their growing Empire.  In 1884, they succeeded.

In 1942 the Japanese invaded the BRITISH COLONY of Burma.  They soon realized they needed a railway to connect Burma to neighboring Thailand.  The Bridge over the River Kwai was one section of that railway.

One of the poignant messages in the film was the indignity of a self-respecting leader and his men being forced to work for an invading imperialistic army.  In the film, Alec Guiness' character strongly resists the Japanese efforts to build the bridge, strongly correlating the Burmese and neighboring Indians resistance to BRITISH rule.

History, ain't if fun?

Wrong? You realise you just confirmed his point?

The British Empire was a backdrop to that film, not its focus.