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1/20/12 5:37:13 PM#81
Originally posted by Teala If you want to go by xfire, xfire shows a drop in about 7.5% activity from the first weekend to the last weekend |
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1/20/12 5:40:06 PM#82
What's the big deal? Of course a large enough sample is going to provide data to draw general conclusions from. It's basic statistics. Using two independent sources provides even more reliable data. The conclusion to be drawn from this example is that SWTOR is in decline at the moment. Are there any numbers that says anything other than that? "If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." - Carl Sagan |
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1/20/12 5:40:38 PM#83
Originally posted by Bunks you might want to go look at the chart again.
Also WoW didnt have downtime, SWTOR did. Weekday numbers are more or less useless, gotta check the weekend peaks. |
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1/20/12 5:42:17 PM#84
The graphs are really cool, but I'm about to ask the most important question of all. Who actually gives a shit? I know I don't. I bought the game, played it for a days until I got to level 13 and quit. Wasted $60.00. I'm done with the game, and I'll never play it again. HOWEVER. Does it really matter that the playerbase is in decline? In the grand scheme of things nobody is going to care about this information. Unless you're an invenstor. Which I doubt you are.
The regular player is going be either: A. Playing the game, and not caring. B. Not playing the game, and still not caring.
It's cool that this information is out there for us to look at, but, uh... It's not really interesting. |
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1/20/12 5:43:56 PM#85
Originally posted by teakbois someone needs a new calcualtor , and it isn't me. |
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1/20/12 5:44:58 PM#86
Originally posted by Ridrith I find it interesting personally, but then again I like statistics. |
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1/20/12 5:45:14 PM#87
Originally posted by Ridrith People care for lots of different reasons. I care because I hope that there are many others who quit for some of the same reasons and that we can make a big enough dent to get them to make some much needed design changes. Others care because they like to think XFire numbers mean something and want to see a correlation with more legitimate stats. Others predicted the game to fail and like to look at anything that may prove them right. |
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1/20/12 5:45:18 PM#88
Originally posted by Ridrith If I want to buy a banana, first thing I do is check if Chiquita's stocks are okay. If not, to hell with them! If so, then I gots me a yum-in-yer-tum banana. Elementary. 0___x "I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave". |
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1/20/12 5:48:03 PM#89
Originally posted by Bunks 105,000 down to 75,000 is more than 15%, dont need a calculator to see that
Also 70,000 to 40,000 is not 55%. Dont need a calculator for that either. |
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1/20/12 5:53:04 PM#90
Originally posted by Ridrith Boobs sell. would you prefer the pirate over here? -------> |
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1/20/12 5:53:48 PM#91
This is a post where i make guesses at how a game that isn't my pet game is doing to make myself feel better because i take ownership of games i didn't make. Previous to this time, i talked about how World of Warcraft really wasn't that successful.
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1/20/12 5:54:51 PM#92
Originally posted by Bunks All of the games in xFire's top 5 show a decline since December 19th. |
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1/20/12 5:56:25 PM#93
Originally posted by teakbois 1/15 70569 swtor 1/19 38669 = .5479 so yeah it dropped to 54% of its peak |
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1/20/12 5:59:20 PM#94
Originally posted by Chieftan 3 of those games are ancient and the other is a 2 year old f2p game.
In other words: none of them had anywhere near the amount of new people joining since dec 19th as swtor did |
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1/20/12 6:03:10 PM#95
Originally posted by Bunks Which isnt a 55% drop off (or a 54% drop off) |
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1/20/12 6:06:06 PM#96
So many variables to consider here, first it was during a period of vacation that TOR was released, this alone jumbles these numbers a little bit. Add to that the simple fact that population roll-off will happen regardless of the quality of any MMO. We all know a chunk of players will play to end-game and quit it always happens. Add on top of all of that, some serious issues the game has seen over last couple of weeks, which will push even more players away. I don't find this surprising at all.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson If you can't argue the point don't say anything at all. |
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1/20/12 6:07:06 PM#97
Originally posted by Professor78Originally posted by smh_alot Heh. Ok, let's get down to the nitty-gritty, shall we? Xfire player numbers: WoW: 1/3 19.6k, 1/10 19.2k, 1/17 19.2k players Aion: 1/3 980, 1/10 930, 1/17 805 players LotrO: 1/3 860, 1/10 867, 1/17 845 players Rift: 1/3 411, 1/10 400, 1/17 402 players
I could go on and pick another few like AoC or EVE or such, but it won't make a difference, the same trendline in player numbers as the ones I mentioned. I did pick the same day of the week of each week btw, only seems fair to compare like that, but I could have picked another day as well without it making much of a difference in trend. So, I used Xfire like you did, and where you claimed to see a rise the past few weeks. My question, once again, where? So far not in the ones you mentioned. Originally posted by BunksOriginally posted by teakbois Those are player hours, not player numbers, player numbers were 11.1k at 1/15 and 9.5k at 1/15. Furthermore, you're comparing a weekly peak (Sunday weekend) with a valley (weekday. 1/15 Sunday had 11.1k players compared to 1/7 Sunday that had 11k players 1/19 Thursday had 9.5k players compared to 1/12 Thursday that had 10.4k players
Sounds more like 10% dropoff in player numbers, not a 54%. Even more, there was no change from 1 Sunday to the next. Ofc situation will be different in the upcoming week, but you were comparing those 2 dates to support your claim, so I did too >.> |
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1/20/12 6:07:34 PM#98
OMG!! this people never give up?. they really want to see swtor fail, just lol. ok guys, lets say, swtor is doomed and 50% of the population just quit. Are you happy with that?. Haters gonna hate, good thing, is they are just wrong about swtor. |
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1/20/12 6:09:56 PM#99
Originally posted by Distopia This is actually a relatively new phenomenon, first seen with Rift. LOTRO was the last quality game released before Rift, and it had a sub increase after first month. Its easy to forget we have seen a steady diet of crap (VG, WAR, AoC) that dropped fast due to the game having major issues. |
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1/20/12 6:12:38 PM#100
All that either of those graphs measure is how much people play and concurrency. It doesn't measure subs at all.
You can't take data that measures one thing and say it measures something else. OP, you claim this proves that they are losing players (which they probably are to some degree) but your graphs do not prove that or measure how many are leaving. This is twisting data to fit your own agenda. When you don't have the data to back up your point, you can't just grab whatever data is available and pretend it means what you want it too. Shadow's Hand Guild The Secret World - Dragons Planetside 2 - Terran Republic Tera - Dragonfall Server |
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