when people had to farm valor for almost 1 month doing warzones to reach the battlemaster rank playing the underdog faction, they dont find funny nor unimportant the oposite faction getting the same amount the valor in 1 day..

its legitimate that those individuals feel cheated and stop supporting the company who allwed this to happen using the only possible method.. wich is to cancel their subscription.

we all can say like.. yes.. but will it affect your gameplay so much?

answer is simple.. yes it will, because other than some buggy raids and dungeons going under some funny military terminology, the best gear a player can get is through pvp.

Originally posted by EduardoASG

when people had to farm valor for almost 1 month doing warzones to reach the battlemaster rank playing the underdog faction, they dont find funny nor unimportant the oposite faction getting the same amount the valor in 1 day..

its legitimate that those individuals feel cheated and stop supporting the company who allwed this to happen using the only possible method.. wich is to cancel their subscription.

we all can say like.. yes.. but will it affect your gameplay so much?

answer is simple.. yes it will, because other than some buggy raids and dungeons going under some funny military terminology, the best gear a player can get is through pvp.

I understand what you guys are saying about this. I'm not trying to condone cheating at all. I report every single person I see trading kills on Ilum not matter what.

What I am saying is this, you guys are complaining that they are getting valor when you should be complaining that they are cheating to get gear. 

Sigh. 

Originally posted by youngkg

http://i.imgur.com/qWHN6.jpg

 

lol.....

Bioware should have just stuck to making nice gayfests. PvP is really not their thing.

Originally posted by EduardoASG

when people had to farm valor for almost 1 month doing warzones to reach the battlemaster rank playing the underdog faction, they dont find funny nor unimportant the oposite faction getting the same amount the valor in 1 day..

its legitimate that those individuals feel cheated and stop supporting the company who allwed this to happen using the only possible method.. wich is to cancel their subscription.

we all can say like.. yes.. but will it affect your gameplay so much?

answer is simple.. yes it will, because other than some buggy raids and dungeons going under some funny military terminology, the best gear a player can get is through pvp.

If this is realy the case.....then i am going to start the same threat that we PVE players are being disscriminated by bioware for getting even gear as the PVP players right away.....why cant we pve have gear that is as good as the pvp'rs have??? you tell me that....and you feel you have been wronged huh?

Originally posted by dubyahite

Originally posted by EduardoASG

when people had to farm valor for almost 1 month doing warzones to reach the battlemaster rank playing the underdog faction, they dont find funny nor unimportant the oposite faction getting the same amount the valor in 1 day..

its legitimate that those individuals feel cheated and stop supporting the company who allwed this to happen using the only possible method.. wich is to cancel their subscription.

we all can say like.. yes.. but will it affect your gameplay so much?

answer is simple.. yes it will, because other than some buggy raids and dungeons going under some funny military terminology, the best gear a player can get is through pvp.

I understand what you guys are saying about this. I'm not trying to condone cheating at all. I report every single person I see trading kills on Ilum not matter what.

 

What I am saying is this, you guys are complaining that they are getting valor when you should be complaining that they are cheating to get gear. 

 

Sigh. 

^^ THIS ^^ +1

Originally posted by oubers

Originally posted by EduardoASG

when people had to farm valor for almost 1 month doing warzones to reach the battlemaster rank playing the underdog faction, they dont find funny nor unimportant the oposite faction getting the same amount the valor in 1 day..

its legitimate that those individuals feel cheated and stop supporting the company who allwed this to happen using the only possible method.. wich is to cancel their subscription.

we all can say like.. yes.. but will it affect your gameplay so much?

answer is simple.. yes it will, because other than some buggy raids and dungeons going under some funny military terminology, the best gear a player can get is through pvp.

If this is realy the case.....then i am going to start the same threat that we PVE players are being disscriminated by bioware for getting even gear as the PVP players right away.....why cant we pve have gear that is as good as the pvp'rs have??? you tell me that....and you feel you have been wronged huh?

 

and you would be absolutely right about it.

the best way to get pve gear shouldnt be through pvp playing. i agree.. thats another of their flaws.

the whole concept of pvp gear vs pve gear is an old debate.. should pvp gear only work in a pvp enviroment? should pve gear be useseless in pvp? should the best gear only be provided to those willing to spend countless hours raiding?

Originally posted by EduardoASG

when people had to farm valor for almost 1 month doing warzones to reach the battlemaster rank playing the underdog faction, they dont find funny nor unimportant the oposite faction getting the same amount the valor in 1 day..

its legitimate that those individuals feel cheated and stop supporting the company who allwed this to happen using the only possible method.. wich is to cancel their subscription.

we all can say like.. yes.. but will it affect your gameplay so much?

answer is simple.. yes it will, because other than some buggy raids and dungeons going under some funny military terminology, the best gear a player can get is through pvp.

At this point it's too early to say how many will be punished for the exploit/issue.

Also: No one is saying those who feel cheated shouldn't turn around and unsub, each to their own.

I'm a lieutenant in a republic PVP guild I've not heard of losing anyone as of yet. No one even mentioned it at all in the hours I was in game tonight and the usuals were all on, server still packed as well (fatman). The only reason I'll care is if my guild or allies/adversaries start losing people to this issue.

Still it must be reiterated, Valor gives you no gear...The gear comes from dailies and RNG. In and of itself valor gets you nothing.

Originally posted by Distopia

At this point it's too early to say how many will be punished for the exploit/issue.

Also: No one is saying those who feel cheated shouldn't turn around and unsub, each to their own.

I'm a lieutenant in a republic PVP guild I've not heard of losing anyone as of yet. No one even mentioned it at all in the hours I was in game tonight and the usuals were all on, server still packed as well (fatman). The only reason I'll care is if my guild or allies/adversaries start losing people to this issue.

Still it must be reiterated, Valor gives you no gear...The gear comes from dailies and RNG. In and of itself valor gets you nothing.

err.. valor gets you access to an higher rank of gear.. instead of picking champion bags as reward from your dailies, you will start picking battlemaster bags.

And.. about people leaving or not.. you can always check this : http://www.swtor.com/server-status

Most servers are light after yesterday.. lets see how it evolves in the next few days.. ofc BW can always cut down the population limits to change its looks..

ToR pvp is hardcore....this is worse than darkfall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL0kDP_Cexo&feature=player_embedded

These poor guys have a right to be pissed lol.

Originally posted by EduardoASG

Originally posted by Distopia

At this point it's too early to say how many will be punished for the exploit/issue.

Also: No one is saying those who feel cheated shouldn't turn around and unsub, each to their own.

I'm a lieutenant in a republic PVP guild I've not heard of losing anyone as of yet. No one even mentioned it at all in the hours I was in game tonight and the usuals were all on, server still packed as well (fatman). The only reason I'll care is if my guild or allies/adversaries start losing people to this issue.

Still it must be reiterated, Valor gives you no gear...The gear comes from dailies and RNG. In and of itself valor gets you nothing.

err.. valor gets you access to an higher rank of gear.. instead of picking champion bags as reward from your dailies, you will start picking battlemaster bags.

And.. about people leaving or not.. you can always check this : http://www.swtor.com/server-status

Most servers are light after yesterday.. lets see how it evolves in the next few days.. ofc BW can always cut down the population limits to change its looks..

It is 6am in the morning so I hope you're not making a point about "people leaving".

My server still hit heavy tonight (Fatman: us East  coast PVp) was on from 9pm-2 am pop was fine, that's really all that matters to me. IF you don't expect servers to be lighter as time goes on, I don't know what to tell you, I'm under no delusion the game will be "huge". Like I said it's really only my experience that matters to me. The game being huge or not plays no part in that.

Originally posted by EduardoASG

Originally posted by oubers

Originally posted by EduardoASG

when people had to farm valor for almost 1 month doing warzones to reach the battlemaster rank playing the underdog faction, they dont find funny nor unimportant the oposite faction getting the same amount the valor in 1 day..

its legitimate that those individuals feel cheated and stop supporting the company who allwed this to happen using the only possible method.. wich is to cancel their subscription.

we all can say like.. yes.. but will it affect your gameplay so much?

answer is simple.. yes it will, because other than some buggy raids and dungeons going under some funny military terminology, the best gear a player can get is through pvp.

If this is realy the case.....then i am going to start the same threat that we PVE players are being disscriminated by bioware for getting even gear as the PVP players right away.....why cant we pve have gear that is as good as the pvp'rs have??? you tell me that....and you feel you have been wronged huh?

 

and you would be absolutely right about it.

the best way to get pve gear shouldnt be through pvp playing. i agree.. thats another of their flaws.

the whole concept of pvp gear vs pve gear is an old debate.. should pvp gear only work in a pvp enviroment? should pve gear be useseless in pvp? should the best gear only be provided to those willing to spend countless hours raiding?

omho there should be no such this as pve or pvp gear.....gear should not even be important imo....the skills ingame should be primary.....if you wanr pure dps stats for pvp then you should do just that, if you want HP stats for raiding then they should.

But thats mho. 

Originally posted by oubers

Originally posted by EduardoASG

Originally posted by oubers

Originally posted by EduardoASG

when people had to farm valor for almost 1 month doing warzones to reach the battlemaster rank playing the underdog faction, they dont find funny nor unimportant the oposite faction getting the same amount the valor in 1 day..

its legitimate that those individuals feel cheated and stop supporting the company who allwed this to happen using the only possible method.. wich is to cancel their subscription.

we all can say like.. yes.. but will it affect your gameplay so much?

answer is simple.. yes it will, because other than some buggy raids and dungeons going under some funny military terminology, the best gear a player can get is through pvp.

If this is realy the case.....then i am going to start the same threat that we PVE players are being disscriminated by bioware for getting even gear as the PVP players right away.....why cant we pve have gear that is as good as the pvp'rs have??? you tell me that....and you feel you have been wronged huh?

 

and you would be absolutely right about it.

the best way to get pve gear shouldnt be through pvp playing. i agree.. thats another of their flaws.

the whole concept of pvp gear vs pve gear is an old debate.. should pvp gear only work in a pvp enviroment? should pve gear be useseless in pvp? should the best gear only be provided to those willing to spend countless hours raiding?

omho there should be no such this as pve or pvp gear.....gear should not even be important imo....the skills ingame should be primary.....if you wanr pure dps stats for pvp then you should do just that, if you want HP stats for raiding then they should.

But thats mho. 

No way. The easiest way to get PvE gear is Eternity Vault. That place is a free loot party. 

They are too busy copying WoW to think themself. I just hit 40 [i started 2-3 weeks after official release]  and encountered shitloads of bugs already.

Originally posted by Tardcore

Originally posted by Shivam

Exactly Bioware is noob. You, i and everyone else are such experts. That is why i am sitting here complaining while they are actually engaged in making games.

 

You know, I may not be a professional pastry chef, but I can still tell when an aforementioned professional pastry chef f*cked up and used salt instead of sugar. Same thing with MMO players who even though they have never created an MMO themselves, still know that being endlessly spawn camped in what is supposed to be a safe zone, for mad valor points to the campers, is not a fun nor balanced game mechanic. To my knowledge none of the people who work at this very site that gave SWTOR an 8.7 rating have ever worked to create an MMO either. Does that then mean that said 8.7 rating has no relevance what so ever? Of course not. Nice strawman argument though.

Bioware made a mistake, they admit this FACT and took steps to rectify the problem. Good for them. People can decide to keep supporting them or decide their money could be better spent elsewhere.

Either way their decision is not in the hands of a seemingly obsessed apologist such as yourself. And thank goodness for that, becuse if all they were capable of was spitting unconstructive abuse and venomous egotism like you do, instead of actually expressing any ideas of their own, they'd soon have no customers left.

 

 

There is difference between a critic of of pastry chef and then there is being an arrogant dbag. Unless you go to chef and tell him 'you are such a noob' i obviously know better and when chef asks you to show him, you shurg and run away. Everyone is an expert on internet no doubt but anonymity of internet plays a big role in being a jerk.

You think i am an apologist and i think you and OP just lack civility and manners.