i watch her play at twitchtv as i dont have a video card atm but i must say she is having fun.

the game has its problems but those will be worked out the game is  what  alot of people want it offers great world pvp good warzones and the pve is spot on.

is it a wow killer nah  but it sure is a hell of alot of fun to watch her playing and once i get a video card mine took and broke during the beta sadly anough, but i will be playing this game.

It's funny that endgame in SWTOR is so bad considering how BW seems to be catering to that spoiled generation of slackers that rush to level 50 since they usually don't have a job or live in their parent's basement.

Originally posted by darwa

Originally posted by Malakhon

I can't remember a launch title having this much in it, or being launched as smoothly.

Remember Rift?

 

Rift didnt have as much in it as SWTOR, but its launch certainly was as smooth (and SWTOR has the bigger bug between the two games)

Originally posted by Qazaam

Originally posted by Yamota

I haven't read it but let me guess, she thinks it is good right?

She actually used to hate on SWTOR pretty hard until she started playing it :P

It is not about hating, when you are writing a professional review then you need to bring up all aspects and not only good one's which she seems only capable of.

Originally posted by Czanrei

It's funny that endgame in SWTOR is so bad considering how BW seems to be catering to that spoiled generation of slackers that rush to level 50 since they usually don't have a job or live in their parent's basement.

 

Right, it has nothing to do with the fact that it is incredible easy to level in this game?

I mean if you are not purposfully trying to slow down your leveling and just go through the content, and not reroll alts, it does not take more than maybe 50-60 gaming hours to hit level cap. That is like a month of gameplay for an average active gamer.

Fair review and what I would expect at the current age of the game.

Personally, I still doubt the commitment from EA to add content that is both timely and interesting over time. But the only way to remove those fears is to give them time to work on the end game content. My biggest fear is that SW:TOR end game evolves into a repeat of the STO end game where after a weekend of the new content you are bored. Time will tell on that.

For those that canceled their subscription before 30 days was up I have this to say. Unless it is a game that is not what you expected, such as it is not a free form skill instead of a class system, I feel that you are not giving it a chance. There will be launch problems and there will not be the volume of end game content that other games have. But EA is certainly working on the launch problems and so far is trying to show that they do understand that end game content will in the end make or break this game.

When DAOC was released, the so called holy grail of RvR PvP on the planet, it didn't HAVE an endgame. The game was completely unfinished. And the first PvP battles, when they finally did have them, were comical /stuck fests.

I can forgive a new game having a limited end game

I can forgive a new game having poor 5-6 year old graphics

I can forgive a new game having almost 0 crafting

I can forgive a new game being riddled with bugs (dc from WZ queue and Ilum anyone?)

But having no real PvP end game, the most banal, bland PvE I have ever witnessed. Guilds and large groups having no role or importance is ludicrous!

Though I enjoy Pokkets videos I must disagree I spent a couple weeks at 50 and have now unsubbed. There simply is no notable endgame. Warzones, world bosses, datacrons, (most) flashpoints I did while leveling. Yes flashpoints have difficulty modes (great way to avoid having to think of actual content) I feel a fool for wasting my money buying this game.

I am on the record (check posts) defending this game saying that it is a medicore game but shut up and enjoy it. I would like to take that back. It is below medicore, unworthy a 'AAA' rating. I wash my hands of EA and BW.

The fact of the matter is there is a very very limited amount of content to do endgame. The raids themselves are at a laughable difficulty, the touted world pvp they were so proud of has been proven to be a joke (they had to remove the flight paths to get out to the world pvp because they don't know what they are going to do to fix it yet), and the only thing you can do at the moment to improve your character is to either run the instances over and over and over or do some warzone pvp, which in itself is actually pretty fun until you realize the reward youre getting from it is a bag with a chance to have a random piece of loot. BW has failed pretty hard in this area, you can randomly get the same piece of loot you already have from this and also from the raid chests, you get assigned the same piece of loot you already have when there is another one of your guildmates of the same class who hasn't gotten even one piece yet. You want so badly to give them the gear, but you can't because of how piss poor BW's development is. Granted this is in normal mode where you have this issue, but it prevents you from helping guildies get geared up for content.

I personally don't see the issue with people cancelling their accounts at this point, and I think they have every right to in this day and age. Devs have had plenty of time to learn from others mistakes, and there is no excuse to release an end game that is in the state TOR is.

My only complaint about this game so far is why they haven't come up with a username login system vs using the email address.  I'm SO freaking tired of having to change my password a couple of times a day just to play.  Hackers? Please, you're not getting in, simply as that, but I'm getting annoyed at finding my account locked CONTINUOUSLY!!!  How about Bioware/EA pony up some cash and find these IP's that are trying to get into these accounts? 

Originally posted by Mardukk

Good to see she took her time and enjoyed the leveling process...

I hope she likes the endgame if it takes her two weeks to lvl a character to max.  Much of the speed in leveling is Bioware's fault. They claimed this game was about the leveling process rather than endgame.  With a two week to one month leveling time, they better shift their focus to "endgame" activities.

I've enjoyed the game, I just wonder about some of their design choices (don't get me started on the walled in zones....arghhh).

 

How could the levelling time be longer? All the quests are fully voiced. 

And there is only so many masochistic mechanisms to extend the existing content that players will accept. The levelling speed fells ok to me, but I've yet to find a Class that I feel really comfortable with. 

Originally posted by Binny45

My only complaint about this game so far is why they haven't come up with a username login system vs using the email address.  I'm SO freaking tired of having to change my password a couple of times a day just to play.  Hackers? Please, you're not getting in, simply as that, but I'm getting annoyed at finding my account locked CONTINUOUSLY!!!  How about Bioware/EA pony up some cash and find these IP's that are trying to get into these accounts? 

It's worse that it's linked to origin so my SWTOR user/pword is the same as my BF3... that is just stoopid.

I had no desire to play SWTOR end game as it felt so detached from my players story. I wont explain myself because i wouldnt want to ruin the Inquisitor story for anyone. 

Well then someone would say "then roll an alt!"

I did but the combat feels clunky the UI is horrible and travelling is TEDIOUS so i just couldnt roll an alt and go through the frustration. 

Its just not a very well though out game with good parts to it.

Originally posted by Malakhon

A rich storyline that really evolves and surprises over time, so that starting out as a Sith I felt like a lowbie Slave and grew into a devious Apprentice and a powerful Sith Lord etc.

Switch over and play a Trooper who fights as a Hero for the Republic as a grunt who works his way up in Havok Squad.

Impressive.

I asked people why is there so much hatred on the forums, because I just don't see how people can't see the potential in this game.

 

They said "too busy to get on forum, must keep playing"

 

Real players are mostly playing.

 

Whiners are hating, and those of us stuck at work who can't play are the only ones here to represent the voice of reason. Things have become very skewed in the forums.

 

Don't like the game? quit. Go click a exclamation point and collect 10 chits and return to the question mark to read the quest text and collect the reward.

 

Me, I have patience. This game is going to be something special and if you cn't see it, you just haven't been looking hard enough.

 

 

 

 

What you just said means only thing: this game will only appeal to less than overzealous players.... leveling slower will keep the game alive longer because there isn't meaningful ongoing endgame.

So according to this video, there's only three things to do in this game end game. pug dungeons, pvp instanced pvp zones, or do dailies. Yep sounds like another game i'm going to be leaving soon, some days i don't even bother logging in and the only reason why im on that one, friends are still there. :)

That was a very good review.

Very thorough. Well done!

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by Czanrei

It's funny that endgame in SWTOR is so bad considering how BW seems to be catering to that spoiled generation of slackers that rush to level 50 since they usually don't have a job or live in their parent's basement.

 

Right, it has nothing to do with the fact that it is incredible easy to level in this game?

I mean if you are not purposfully trying to slow down your leveling and just go through the content, and not reroll alts, it does not take more than maybe 50-60 gaming hours to hit level cap. That is like a month of gameplay for an average active gamer.

Not true at all I've only reached level 30 playing "normal" for about 3 weeks, I haven't rushed but I certainly haven't slacked. Hell I don't even do side quests all I've done is class quests and BG's (which is one of the fastest ways to level) Played from about 10pm until 4:30 am only got about half a level.

Originally posted by Thodra

Originally posted by Shadanwolf

My review of Bioware's post game play. I cancelled my subscription.The compay knew players wanted a great realm vs realm conflict system...and simply chose not to do it...or even say "we know..and here is our vision of the feature".NOPE.So I'm gone....and very disappointed.

 

Exactly what i mean about spoiled generation

 

This (Thodra's response) is exactly why games DON'T have any valuable endgame. The idiocy in your comment is beyond reproach. Because there are fools who believe that everyone should continue paying for an unfinished or ill implemented game until the point that it either gets some content or has some adjustments made (or just plain goes free to play or is shut down) game companies can push out complete crap and take money for it and hope that there's enough playerbase left if they ever get around to completing/fixing it.

Start asking for your money's worth and stop paying when you realize it isn't worth paying for. Give the game companies a reason to actually make a good game before they start taking your money and quit reasoning that the only way a game can become good is if it continues to receive support from enough idiots with more money than sense. They're not going to go bust having to finish a game first, it'll weed out a lot of the crap as the publishers decide which projects they are willing to finance until they're ready. Stop letting them rip you off when a project has exceeded it's projected launch/budget by just banging out whatever crap they have at the time.

Originally posted by Elenna

This (Thodra's response) is exactly why games DON'T have any valuable endgame. The idiocy in your comment is beyond reproach. Because there are fools who believe that everyone should continue paying for an unfinished or ill implemented game until the point that it either gets some content or has some adjustments made (or just plain goes free to play or is shut down) game companies can push out complete crap and take money for it and hope that there's enough playerbase left if they ever get around to completing/fixing it.

 

Start asking for your money's worth and stop paying when you realize it isn't worth paying for. Give the game companies a reason to actually make a good game before they start taking your money and quit reasoning that the only way a game can become good is if it continues to receive support from enough idiots with more money than sense. They're not going to go bust having to finish a game first, it'll weed out a lot of the crap as the publishers decide which projects they are willing to finance until they're ready. Stop letting them rip you off when a project has exceeded it's projected launch/budget by just banging out whatever crap they have at the time.

This is what those who think this way do not get. Many feel they are getting what they want, and the price of entry was fine. Some expect all standards to represent their own, it doesn't work that way.

The fact of the matter is some are not getting what they want, yet others are. All that those who aren't have the option of doing is trying to play games they don't want or play nothing at all.  Problem is many try and do the former, and expect those games to fill their needs (even though they know they won't). In turn they come to forums blasting those games, when their true bone to pick should be toward the genre as a whole, not a specific company or game.