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  thekid1

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1/18/12 4:50:35 AM#121

I wonder what "aesthetics" would have received in the official review if the high settings WAS available. 12/10 surely would have been in order.


 


/sarcasm off.


  rojoArcueid

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"It is double pleasure to deceive the deceiver". - Niccolo Machiavelli

1/18/12 4:51:37 AM#122

i understand that they advertised the game showing better visuals than what the game actualy launched with and tahts wrong. Now, keeping taht statement away, lets see something else here....people claims that graphics dont mean all in a game, but they hate swtor for its graphics.... it doesnt make sense. Swtor should have bein launched with high end graphics. Computer hardware gets easier and easier to acquire as days go by and technology advances....


Now i personally dont play games if they have great graphics but the gameplay is crap. But i dont play games with crap graphics even if the gameplay is fun either. if i dont like both aspects, im out. I do like gameplay and graphics in Swtor although i realise it should have had high end graphics.


I for one wont ever buy an mmo again unless it has top notch graphics ala AoC, FF14, TERA, Blade and Soul, GW2.


 


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  OtohimeVOTF

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1/18/12 4:51:46 AM#123

what can i say look at this


and is not promotional video it just show's how the game actes when u get more then 30 ppl in 1 place




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uT90g1-hJg&feature=player_embedded




 




 




is's on official swtor forum





 

  dorian1972

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1/18/12 5:05:53 AM#124

 

  Phry

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1/18/12 5:14:51 AM#125
Originally posted by OtohimeVOTF

what can i say look at this


and is not promotional video it just show's how the game actes when u get more then 30 ppl in 1 place




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uT90g1-hJg&feature=player_embedded




 




 




is's on official swtor forum





 

lol.. gunslingers shield and the enemy crashes and burns.. sort of.. er.. game engine problems ? or something more drastic ??

  SpottyGekko

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1/18/12 5:23:36 AM#126

I actually think the "BigMac" anology is very interesting when applied to MMO advertising.

 

If you look at the advertising and official screenshots for "WoW-burgers", "Rift-burgers" and "Aion-burgers", then you will see many examples where the advertised product looks EXACTLY like the one you get when you buy it. The ingame footage on these game sites may be be created at very high gfx settings, but a player with a good gaming machine can match them easily enough.

 

But in the case of "SWTOR-burgers", you will NEVER see an accurate picture of the actual product in official advertising. Nor will you see any disclaimer warning you that what you're seeing is not the actual ingame reality. There is no way a SWTOR player can match the advertised gfx quality ever. Period.

 

Most people look at advertised screenshots, and draw their own conclusions. Those with low-end machines know they are not going to see those visuals in their games. Those with medium rigs know they will lose some of the quality, but they will have a reasonable shot at matching what's advertised by tweaking settings. Those with high-end rigs expect to match what is advertised.

 

It would have been fine if EA/BW had decided upfront to limit gfx quality, and been clear about it. Making a game that has undemanding gfx is not a sin. WoW were crystal clear about that decision, years before they launched.

 

  Phry

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1/18/12 5:54:23 AM#127
Originally posted by SpottyGekko

I actually think the "BigMac" anology is very interesting when applied to MMO advertising.

 

If you look at the advertising and official screenshots for "WoW-burgers", "Rift-burgers" and "Aion-burgers", then you will see many examples where the advertised product looks EXACTLY like the one you get when you buy it. The ingame footage on these game sites may be be created at very high gfx settings, but a player with a good gaming machine can match them easily enough.

 

But in the case of "SWTOR-burgers", you will NEVER see an accurate picture of the actual product in official advertising. Nor will you see any disclaimer warning you that what you're seeing is not the actual ingame reality. There is no way a SWTOR player can match the advertised gfx quality ever. Period.

 

Most people look at advertised screenshots, and draw their own conclusions. Those with low-end machines know they are not going to see those visuals in their games. Those with medium rigs know they will lose some of the quality, but they will have a reasonable shot at matching what's advertised by tweaking settings. Those with high-end rigs expect to match what is advertised.

 

It would have been fine if EA/BW had decided upfront to limit gfx quality, and been clear about it. Making a game that has undemanding gfx is not a sin. WoW were crystal clear about that decision, years before they launched.

 

There is a difference, often games advertised on Television etc, will use footage from a PC as they are the best graphically, even though in terms of sales,  more are sold on xbox version than any other, but, those game play vids are from actual in game footage that is achievable, which is not the case with SW:TOR, this is a clear case of false advertising. which under advertising law should require the addition of an 'not actual game footage' disclaimer be displayed during the advertisement

  kingsatanas

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Joined: 3/15/11
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1/18/12 6:08:01 AM#128

idont have this game and not planning to get it cause im not a star war /star trek fan or nerd.i have read yu comment and they sound like some free to play game have better graphique then that.i think its stupid in 2012 to published a new game with a 1990 graphic. i enjoy eq2 until Tera online will release with good graphique and good stuff


  zymurgeist

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Joined: 12/24/04
Posts: 5184

1/18/12 6:23:55 AM#129
Originally posted by Phry
Originally posted by SpottyGekko

I actually think the "BigMac" anology is very interesting when applied to MMO advertising.

 

If you look at the advertising and official screenshots for "WoW-burgers", "Rift-burgers" and "Aion-burgers", then you will see many examples where the advertised product looks EXACTLY like the one you get when you buy it. The ingame footage on these game sites may be be created at very high gfx settings, but a player with a good gaming machine can match them easily enough.

 

But in the case of "SWTOR-burgers", you will NEVER see an accurate picture of the actual product in official advertising. Nor will you see any disclaimer warning you that what you're seeing is not the actual ingame reality. There is no way a SWTOR player can match the advertised gfx quality ever. Period.

 

Most people look at advertised screenshots, and draw their own conclusions. Those with low-end machines know they are not going to see those visuals in their games. Those with medium rigs know they will lose some of the quality, but they will have a reasonable shot at matching what's advertised by tweaking settings. Those with high-end rigs expect to match what is advertised.

 

It would have been fine if EA/BW had decided upfront to limit gfx quality, and been clear about it. Making a game that has undemanding gfx is not a sin. WoW were crystal clear about that decision, years before they launched.

 

There is a difference, often games advertised on Television etc, will use footage from a PC as they are the best graphically, even though in terms of sales,  more are sold on xbox version than any other, but, those game play vids are from actual in game footage that is achievable, which is not the case with SW:TOR, this is a clear case of false advertising. which under advertising law should require the addition of an 'not actual game footage' disclaimer be displayed during the advertisement

The  FCC doesn't regulate internet video like it does TV commercials. It's a whole different set of standards. No disclamer is required. Also I don't think you know how limited false advertising laws are in the U.S. It doesn't look like that isn't a legal basis for a claim.

 

Oh and those TV Big Macs? You cant eat them. Some of the chemicals they use to enhance them are toxic.

"Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause" ~Victor Hugo

  Phry

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Joined: 7/01/04
Posts: 5188

1/18/12 6:25:20 AM#130
Originally posted by zymurgeist
Originally posted by Phry
Originally posted by SpottyGekko

I actually think the "BigMac" anology is very interesting when applied to MMO advertising.

 

If you look at the advertising and official screenshots for "WoW-burgers", "Rift-burgers" and "Aion-burgers", then you will see many examples where the advertised product looks EXACTLY like the one you get when you buy it. The ingame footage on these game sites may be be created at very high gfx settings, but a player with a good gaming machine can match them easily enough.

 

But in the case of "SWTOR-burgers", you will NEVER see an accurate picture of the actual product in official advertising. Nor will you see any disclaimer warning you that what you're seeing is not the actual ingame reality. There is no way a SWTOR player can match the advertised gfx quality ever. Period.

 

Most people look at advertised screenshots, and draw their own conclusions. Those with low-end machines know they are not going to see those visuals in their games. Those with medium rigs know they will lose some of the quality, but they will have a reasonable shot at matching what's advertised by tweaking settings. Those with high-end rigs expect to match what is advertised.

 

It would have been fine if EA/BW had decided upfront to limit gfx quality, and been clear about it. Making a game that has undemanding gfx is not a sin. WoW were crystal clear about that decision, years before they launched.

 

There is a difference, often games advertised on Television etc, will use footage from a PC as they are the best graphically, even though in terms of sales,  more are sold on xbox version than any other, but, those game play vids are from actual in game footage that is achievable, which is not the case with SW:TOR, this is a clear case of false advertising. which under advertising law should require the addition of an 'not actual game footage' disclaimer be displayed during the advertisement

The  FCC doesn't regulate internet video like it does TV commercials. It's a whole different set of standards. No disclamer is required. Also I don't think you know how limited false advertising laws are in the U.S. It doesn't look like that isn't a legal basis for a claim.

 

Oh and those TV Big Macs? You cant eat them. Some of the chemicals they use to enhance them are toxic.

so not entirely dissimilar to the actual big macs then

 

  Dracill

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Joined: 2/29/08
Posts: 161

1/18/12 6:39:30 AM#131
And do not forget the pink boots. If people want to play with pink boots and low resolution cutscenes they should be allowed.

At least that should make the life easier to the haters. My vote for the return to the beta bugs.

POWER TO THE HATERS!!!
  lizardbones

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1/18/12 7:13:00 AM#132

I cranked up the loader this morning before work and downloaded the update for the game. Obviously the servers were not up, but the Settings screen was available. There's now an Anti-Alias option that I don't remember seeing before and also an Anistropic Filtering option I don't remember seeing before. Looking forward to seeing how this affects the game's appearance.

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  Unshra

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1/18/12 7:17:32 AM#133

 


Ah so BioWare is channeling Starbucks, Medium resolution is now High resolution and High resolution is now Cutscene, gotcha...



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  Fusion

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1/18/12 7:27:36 AM#134

That's what you get when you buy an engine, you don't know the ins and outs of it. And to be honest, the hero-engine is very badly optimized considering the quality of graphics it outlays...


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  daltanious

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1/18/12 7:29:45 AM#135

To be honest have never compared medium to high .... With every game I immediately go to set effects to max. My computer is 2 years old aprox, when purchased was not top of the top but was good.


And I can only say I'm impressed with incredible Star wars(!) feeling and with great graphics and all effects. With smoth combat moves, etc etc. I do not care for effects that normal human eye can not even notice. I'm incredibly happy with what I see when i play. And how I feel.


Have been watching first SW movie when was released. And all rest also. Game is impressive. But is true ... who is fan of swtor have only one big reason more to be happy. But I do not think would be disappointed even if I had never watched any sw movie.


If I can play all maxed out wow, rift and swtor ... all lag free, bug free .... I will simply not play games that does not fit this criteria. Now of course. 10 years or more ago standards were pretty different, once was "normal" when major and really annoying bugs were fixed i.e. after 2 years. Rift and Swtor have set new standards here.


  Alyvian

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1/18/12 7:33:20 AM#136

time to reroll back to rift, feel free to use the link in my signature


 


also remember, these guys are owned by ea, ea support sopa/pipa which will destroy alot of sites like this/similar to this so why even bother giving them your money.


  SpottyGekko

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1/18/12 7:34:46 AM#137
Originally posted by Unshra

 


Ah so BioWare is channeling Starbucks, Medium resolution is now High resolution and High resolution is now Cutscene, gotcha...

Yup, "working as originally intended", they just forgot to tell anyone about that until the Dev statement last week :)

 

But, after some enouragement by the playerbase, they have promised to try to improve the ingame gfx in the next month or two, which will allow you to display characters "close to you" in high-res gfx.

 

Perhaps there'll be a new gfx setting added then, "High+" or "Ultra High" or some such...

  Dreamion

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1/18/12 9:38:21 AM#138

SWTOR = meh


  oubers

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1/18/12 9:47:12 AM#139
Originally posted by Alyvian

time to reroll back to rift, feel free to use the link in my signature


 


also remember, these guys are owned by ea, ea support sopa/pipa which will destroy alot of sites like this/similar to this so why even bother giving them your money.

cant help but agree with this.......i dont like EA either it seems.

I bought it because its bioware......their storytelling is epic imho.

That is why i love swtor so much, story.....once i hit max lvl with my 4 chars i will prolly lose the game to the bottom draw of my desk i guess.

 

  cybrinsanity

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1/18/12 11:53:32 AM#140
Originally posted by Stephen Reid
“bring greater visual fidelity to your character and those around you, but will still allow for good performance in situations where a lot of characters are on-screen at once.”

 

Since when does this happen? theres never anymore than say 20 people on screen anyways at any given time... lol

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