Hello. Everyday on this forum on other places where people talk about MMORPGs, lots of different ideas are proposed, shared, discussed, polished, refused, etc... Some of them may make their way to the higher level (devs), but imo lots of these ideas stay ideas forever. So I thought, why not create a sort of database for gamers as well as developpers to actually collect these ideas and present them in a more presentable way. You have an idea, you share it with everyone on the forum, people discuss it, then you take that idea to and add it to the database, with the valid arguments for and againt. This is a really simplified example on how this would work. One thing I want to add though, it should be all FREE. If you have time and will to do it, you do it, if not, you don't. Whymaking something like that? Just so we can gather all the ideas on MMORPGs and have then in one place. I do agree that a forum may be considered such a place, but why not make something which specialises only on ideas for MMORPGs. I do know that this all may sound really stupid and wtv you want to call it....but I think that this may help developpers to actually see what people wish to see in games. For example creating a rating of ideas or something of the sort....

This is just an IDEA, but who knows....

Originally posted by Aines

Hello. Everyday on this forum on other places where people talk about MMORPGs, lots of different ideas are proposed, shared, discussed, polished, refused, etc... Some of them may make their way to the higher level (devs), but imo lots of these ideas stay ideas forever. So I thought, why not create a sort of database for gamers as well as developpers to actually collect these ideas and present them in a more presentable way. You have an idea, you share it with everyone on the forum, people discuss it, then you take that idea to and add it to the database, with the valid arguments for and againt. This is a really simplified example on how this would work. One thing I want to add though, it should be all FREE. If you have time and will to do it, you do it, if not, you don't. Whymaking something like that? Just so we can gather all the ideas on MMORPGs and have then in one place. I do agree that a forum may be considered such a place, but why not make something which specialises only on ideas for MMORPGs. I do know that this all may sound really stupid and wtv you want to call it....but I think that this may help developpers to actually see what people wish to see in games. For example creating a rating of ideas or something of the sort....

 

This is just an IDEA, but who knows....

We have no shortage of ideas.  But there's a very real difference between plausible and feasible.

Originally posted by Aines

Hello. Everyday on this forum on other places where people talk about MMORPGs, lots of different ideas are proposed, shared, discussed, polished, refused, etc... Some of them may make their way to the higher level (devs), but imo lots of these ideas stay ideas forever. So I thought, why not create a sort of database for gamers as well as developpers to actually collect these ideas and present them in a more presentable way. You have an idea, you share it with everyone on the forum, people discuss it, then you take that idea to and add it to the database, with the valid arguments for and againt. This is a really simplified example on how this would work. One thing I want to add though, it should be all FREE. If you have time and will to do it, you do it, if not, you don't. Whymaking something like that? Just so we can gather all the ideas on MMORPGs and have then in one place. I do agree that a forum may be considered such a place, but why not make something which specialises only on ideas for MMORPGs. I do know that this all may sound really stupid and wtv you want to call it....but I think that this may help developpers to actually see what people wish to see in games. For example creating a rating of ideas or something of the sort....

 

This is just an IDEA, but who knows....

Why don't you set this up? It only costs 8$ a month for a webhost with a database and unlimited disk space. It only takes a few months to learn the php/css/mysql/js/html to set up such a system. I would be happy to do it if only I had the time.

You're right 100%. That's is why I am thinking of some sort of a rating that would allow to separate ideas from plausible to feasible. Something like....rate the idea on the amount of money it requires, the amount of people ir requires to make it real, the equipment possible....from let's say 0 being impossible and 10 meaning that the idea has a potential and is possible to implement in MMORPGs. I hope you get what i mean.

It's a bit hard for me to explain how I see everything comming together, because it's a huge project which would require lots of organization, but I thought I would share it with everyone here just to see if anyone is even intrested in something like that.

Originally posted by Cuathon

Originally posted by Aines

Hello. Everyday on this forum on other places where people talk about MMORPGs, lots of different ideas are proposed, shared, discussed, polished, refused, etc... Some of them may make their way to the higher level (devs), but imo lots of these ideas stay ideas forever. So I thought, why not create a sort of database for gamers as well as developpers to actually collect these ideas and present them in a more presentable way. You have an idea, you share it with everyone on the forum, people discuss it, then you take that idea to and add it to the database, with the valid arguments for and againt. This is a really simplified example on how this would work. One thing I want to add though, it should be all FREE. If you have time and will to do it, you do it, if not, you don't. Whymaking something like that? Just so we can gather all the ideas on MMORPGs and have then in one place. I do agree that a forum may be considered such a place, but why not make something which specialises only on ideas for MMORPGs. I do know that this all may sound really stupid and wtv you want to call it....but I think that this may help developpers to actually see what people wish to see in games. For example creating a rating of ideas or something of the sort....

 

This is just an IDEA, but who knows....

Why don't you set this up? It only costs 8$ a month for a webhost with a database and unlimited disk space. It only takes a few months to learn the php/css/mysql/js/html to set up such a system. I would be happy to do it if only I had the time.

I would love to, right know I am busy as well, but I hope I'll find time to do it. The problem with me doing it, is that I do not pocess enought knowledge to actually evaluate the idea correctly on different aspects (moneywise, equipment wise...). That's why I think it would be impossible for one person alone to undertake such project.

Well I thinka game isn't just about one idea, multiple ideas need to come together and work conherently with each other in order to create a rich experience. One idea will simply lead to, at best, a tech demo.

I think the database will be cool to have. But organising that will be a pain.......

Originally posted by Aines

Originally posted by Cuathon

Originally posted by Aines

Hello. Everyday on this forum on other places where people talk about MMORPGs, lots of different ideas are proposed, shared, discussed, polished, refused, etc... Some of them may make their way to the higher level (devs), but imo lots of these ideas stay ideas forever. So I thought, why not create a sort of database for gamers as well as developpers to actually collect these ideas and present them in a more presentable way. You have an idea, you share it with everyone on the forum, people discuss it, then you take that idea to and add it to the database, with the valid arguments for and againt. This is a really simplified example on how this would work. One thing I want to add though, it should be all FREE. If you have time and will to do it, you do it, if not, you don't. Whymaking something like that? Just so we can gather all the ideas on MMORPGs and have then in one place. I do agree that a forum may be considered such a place, but why not make something which specialises only on ideas for MMORPGs. I do know that this all may sound really stupid and wtv you want to call it....but I think that this may help developpers to actually see what people wish to see in games. For example creating a rating of ideas or something of the sort....

 

This is just an IDEA, but who knows....

Why don't you set this up? It only costs 8$ a month for a webhost with a database and unlimited disk space. It only takes a few months to learn the php/css/mysql/js/html to set up such a system. I would be happy to do it if only I had the time.

 

I would love to, right know I am busy as well, but I hope I'll find time to do it. The problem with me doing it, is that I do not pocess enought knowledge to actually evaluate the idea correctly on different aspects (moneywise, equipment wise...). That's why I think it would be impossible for one person alone to undertake such project.

Of course to filter ideas will be a lot of trouble. But I mean just to set up the database. You could probably get some people to volunteer to help you out with processing ideas and data.

Originally posted by xKingdomx

Well I thinka game isn't just about one idea, multiple ideas need to come together and work conherently with each other in order to create a rich experience. One idea will simply lead to, at best, a tech demo.

 

I think the database will be cool to have. But organising that will be a pain.......

Yeah, but we have to start somewhere, don't we? :)

Organising it will be a great issue, however if people are willing to contibute just a bit of their time to do it, I think it is possible. Just think what a database like that bring to us? I'm confident it would in someway or another help to make a better MMORPGs, not for everybody, but at least for someone.

Originally posted by Cuathon

Of course to filter ideas will be a lot of trouble. But I mean just to set up the database. You could probably get some people to volunteer to help you out with processing ideas and data.

I have never done this before, but I am more then willing to try. I hope i can manage my time well, so I can start working on it as soon as possible. Nevertheless, I just wanted to know what other people on forum think about this project.

Originally posted by Aines

Originally posted by Cuathon

Of course to filter ideas will be a lot of trouble. But I mean just to set up the database. You could probably get some people to volunteer to help you out with processing ideas and data.

I have never done this before, but I am more then willing to try. I hope i can manage my time well, so I can start working on it as soon as possible. Nevertheless, I just wanted to know what other people on forum think about this project.

Most people on this forum are negative whiny trolls complaining about all the games coming out. I am also a whiny negative troll complaining about all the games coming out, but I also intend to do something about that state of affairs.

You are one of the few people I've seen here who are also trying to do something productive. I wish you good luck.

I believe that everything the people want for the next epic MMO has been done in some game but just not all at the same time.  I think you'll find that you can build a great game with a collaboration of ideas and the freshest or best choice engine/systems in the genre of your choosing.  Then a great IP would defintely help your cause.. but back to your task at hand.. beyond a typical vent for frustration of the latest and greatest failure in the genre there are many ideas that could be compiled using this forum and I don't think anyone is charging for them ;P .

You may find a great number of ideas that are good but some would conflict with others so since it doesn't sound like we're just creating a single game, you'll want to keep those ideas... need some sort of category system to organize, so looks like maybe.... setting up a sort of ala carte MMO game conceptualizer?  ~V~

Originally posted by Invintion

I believe that everything the people want for the next epic MMO has been done in some game but just not all at the same time.  I think you'll find that you can build a great game with a collaboration of ideas and the freshest or best choice engine/systems in the genre of your choosing.  Then a great IP would defintely help your cause.. but back to your task at hand.. beyond a typical vent for frustration of the latest and greatest failure in the genre there are many ideas that could be compiled using this forum and I don't think anyone is charging for them ;P .

You may find a great number of ideas that are good but some would conflict with others so since it doesn't sound like we're just creating a single game, you'll want to keep those ideas... need some sort of category system to organize, so looks like maybe.... setting up a sort of ala carte MMO game conceptualizer?  ~V~

 

Well he is making a database of concepts that have been fleshed out and considered critically.

It should be done as a discussion forum, with an operator and moderators that can maintain absolute neutrality on each matter. It should have strict rules regarding personal attacks, pointless negativity, and the inevitable immature trolling that will result.

Good luck

Originally posted by Cuathon

Originally posted by Invintion

I believe that everything the people want for the next epic MMO has been done in some game but just not all at the same time.  I think you'll find that you can build a great game with a collaboration of ideas and the freshest or best choice engine/systems in the genre of your choosing.  Then a great IP would defintely help your cause.. but back to your task at hand.. beyond a typical vent for frustration of the latest and greatest failure in the genre there are many ideas that could be compiled using this forum and I don't think anyone is charging for them ;P .

You may find a great number of ideas that are good but some would conflict with others so since it doesn't sound like we're just creating a single game, you'll want to keep those ideas... need some sort of category system to organize, so looks like maybe.... setting up a sort of ala carte MMO game conceptualizer?  ~V~

 

Well he is making a database of concepts that have been fleshed out and considered critically.

He has not agreed to doing this ;P  Tho I'm with you in supporting proposed cause. If it is to be of any value these concepts should be fleshed in forum, considered critically by both participators and moderators, then organized.. finally and in order for the task to have benefit ie be comprehensible for someone to build an MMORPG with or access the ideas, it needs to be presented eg a website with drop down/selector boxes to build an MMO game with a compilation of these concepts~V~

Originally posted by Invintion

Originally posted by Cuathon

Originally posted by Invintion

I believe that everything the people want for the next epic MMO has been done in some game but just not all at the same time.  I think you'll find that you can build a great game with a collaboration of ideas and the freshest or best choice engine/systems in the genre of your choosing.  Then a great IP would defintely help your cause.. but back to your task at hand.. beyond a typical vent for frustration of the latest and greatest failure in the genre there are many ideas that could be compiled using this forum and I don't think anyone is charging for them ;P .

You may find a great number of ideas that are good but some would conflict with others so since it doesn't sound like we're just creating a single game, you'll want to keep those ideas... need some sort of category system to organize, so looks like maybe.... setting up a sort of ala carte MMO game conceptualizer?  ~V~

 

Well he is making a database of concepts that have been fleshed out and considered critically.

He has not agreed to doing this ;P  Tho I'm with you in supporting proposed cause. If it is to be of any value these concepts should be fleshed in forum, considered critically by both participators and moderators, then organized.. finally and in order for the task to have benefit ie be comprehensible for someone to build an MMORPG with or access the ideas, it needs to be presented eg a website with drop down/selector boxes to build an MMO game with a compilation of these concepts~V~

Well, I don't think we need menus. We can just organize the ideas in categories like a Wiki and then people looking for cool ideas can look through them. And maybe you could have a discussion forum also. But I don't think we want to have a forum about specific ideas there, just find ideas here and on other sites and collect them if they are fleshed out. It is not a good idea to put the spins of a small group of people on them before putting them in the database.

Originally posted by Invintion

Originally posted by Cuathon

Originally posted by Invintion

I believe that everything the people want for the next epic MMO has been done in some game but just not all at the same time.  I think you'll find that you can build a great game with a collaboration of ideas and the freshest or best choice engine/systems in the genre of your choosing.  Then a great IP would defintely help your cause.. but back to your task at hand.. beyond a typical vent for frustration of the latest and greatest failure in the genre there are many ideas that could be compiled using this forum and I don't think anyone is charging for them ;P .

You may find a great number of ideas that are good but some would conflict with others so since it doesn't sound like we're just creating a single game, you'll want to keep those ideas... need some sort of category system to organize, so looks like maybe.... setting up a sort of ala carte MMO game conceptualizer?  ~V~

 

Well he is making a database of concepts that have been fleshed out and considered critically.

He has not agreed to doing this ;P  Tho I'm with you in supporting proposed cause. If it is to be of any value these concepts should be fleshed in forum, considered critically by both participators and moderators, then organized.. finally and in order for the task to have benefit ie be comprehensible for someone to build an MMORPG with or access the ideas, it needs to be presented eg a website with drop down/selector boxes to build an MMO game with a compilation of these concepts~V~

I don't think this should be done with the intention of building an MMORPG from the ideas, more of a place to have serious discussions of design features and viability of new ones that are proposed. 

What ^ said. We already have websites for people who want to make MMOs.

As long as it has a presentable organization I think it is worthwhile.. a wiki setup sounds great. 

Some of us have our own private databases :)

Originally posted by maplestone

Some of us have our own private databases :)

Doesn't do any good if its private.