Originally posted by Tombill

Originally posted by Lexin

Way I see it is "Single player game with cash shop".  Activision/Blizzard has become the most greedy company in the world. Now let's see how many other dev's use RMT in single player games all because these greedy aholes did it.

 

"It's to stop bots/exploiters/dupes". Give me a break it's a way to line their pockets even more.

 

 

 

Blizzard is the publisher of their own games. Activision isn't even on the box.

 

irrellevent seeing as there both part of ActivisionBlizzard.

Originally posted by Tombill

Originally posted by Lexin

Way I see it is "Single player game with cash shop".  Activision/Blizzard has become the most greedy company in the world. Now let's see how many other dev's use RMT in single player games all because these greedy aholes did it.

 

"It's to stop bots/exploiters/dupes". Give me a break it's a way to line their pockets even more.

 

 

 2 errors in there.

Blizzard is the publisher of their own games. Activision isn't even on the box.

Players will be able to gain money by selling their gear/items/products.

---- > It is a player driven economy with real money as a cash out option. MUCH etter than a lame cash shop.

I like that: as a player making money from playing an on line  RPG ... in co op mode...and a 1 million player Auction House.

 

Got that ?

 

Yes but Blizzard is taken a big chunk of the money.

Originally posted by Siveria

The game was confirmed for consoles which pretty much means its gonna be shit just like dungeon siege 3 was. Its sad :( So tired of consoles ruining games on the pc.

lol fail logic, i guess diablo was shit too, and warcraft 2.

Nice try though, gotta love all the delusional pc fanboys who instead of, you know, looking at the people who make a game they decide to blame a piece of plastic.

People... please stop crying about RMT. You do know you can play the game and just use the normal gold AH, right? No one is forcing you to use the RMT.

OT: Ofc south korea dont want the RMT in D3, they support their own gold farming sweetshops.

Originally posted by Tombill

Originally posted by Lexin

Originally posted by Tombill

Originally posted by Lexin

Way I see it is "Single player game with cash shop".  Activision/Blizzard has become the most greedy company in the world. Now let's see how many other dev's use RMT in single player games all because these greedy aholes did it.

 

"It's to stop bots/exploiters/dupes". Give me a break it's a way to line their pockets even more.

 

 

 2 errors in there.

Blizzard is the publisher of their own games. Activision isn't even on the box.

Players will be able to gain money by selling their gear/items/products.

---- > It is a player driven economy with real money as a cash out option. MUCH etter than a lame cash shop.

I like that: as a player making money from playing an on line  RPG ... in co op mode...and a 1 million player Auction House.

 

Got that ?

 

Yes but Blizzard is taken a big chunk of the money.

 WIN/WIN for everyone then as players can gain money now too.

How is that WIN/WIN? It's suppose to be a single player game with online co-op... But guess it's expected out of Blizzard now since they have gone RMT with WoW why not go RMT with a non-mmo.

Originally posted by nybrat

People... please stop crying about RMT. You do know you can play the game and just use the normal gold AH, right? No one is forcing you to use the RMT.

 

OT: Ofc south korea dont want the RMT in D3, they support their own gold farming sweetshops.

The gold in game was already worthless in d2, dont fool yourself by thinking people will have a choice. It will be there for people to use but everyone will have the illusion they can make money off playing a game ...

Blizzard has simply gave up as they cant seem to control RMT in all of their games ( it would probably hinder their profits to pay someone to maintain a RMT free game ) 

People seem to think that there are no farmer beside RMT farmers and that its the only way to get said items ... if anyone has played d2 for long enough they would know that after a certain point, a good chunk of your time would be sunked into farming runs from boss. Farmers exist regardless of RMT, AH turns into a 3rd party for sales instead of being an auction house.

Oh and i cant wait to see people bit**ing when dupes come out and they paid good money for them , only to see them deleted by blizz.

Originally posted by Tombill

Originally posted by Lexin

Originally posted by Tombill

Originally posted by Lexin

Way I see it is "Single player game with cash shop".  Activision/Blizzard has become the most greedy company in the world. Now let's see how many other dev's use RMT in single player games all because these greedy aholes did it.

 

"It's to stop bots/exploiters/dupes". Give me a break it's a way to line their pockets even more.

 

 

 2 errors in there.

Blizzard is the publisher of their own games. Activision isn't even on the box.

Players will be able to gain money by selling their gear/items/products.

---- > It is a player driven economy with real money as a cash out option. MUCH etter than a lame cash shop.

I like that: as a player making money from playing an on line  RPG ... in co op mode...and a 1 million player Auction House.

 

Got that ?

 

Yes but Blizzard is taken a big chunk of the money.

 WIN/WIN for everyone then as players can gain money now too.

If you think YOU will gain anything from this your a fool, you will be undercutted so badly youll make pennies. But hey it is a win/ win like you said because people will actually be more productive with their time and get a real job instead of relying on illusions to pay the bill. 

I just realised that if some player buys an item from RMAH my characters power is reduced by 20%... oh no wait.  Let me think about that for a second.

Originally posted by notsure

Originally posted by Tombill

Originally posted by Lexin

Originally posted by Tombill

Originally posted by Lexin

Way I see it is "Single player game with cash shop".  Activision/Blizzard has become the most greedy company in the world. Now let's see how many other dev's use RMT in single player games all because these greedy aholes did it.

 

"It's to stop bots/exploiters/dupes". Give me a break it's a way to line their pockets even more.

 

 

 2 errors in there.

Blizzard is the publisher of their own games. Activision isn't even on the box.

Players will be able to gain money by selling their gear/items/products.

---- > It is a player driven economy with real money as a cash out option. MUCH etter than a lame cash shop.

I like that: as a player making money from playing an on line  RPG ... in co op mode...and a 1 million player Auction House.

 

Got that ?

 

Yes but Blizzard is taken a big chunk of the money.

 WIN/WIN for everyone then as players can gain money now too.

If you think YOU will gain anything from this your a fool, you will be undercutted so badly youll make pennies. But hey it is a win/ win like you said because people will actually be more productive with their time and get a real job instead of relying on illusions to pay the bill. 

I'm all in favor of competition lowering AH prices. ^^  If someone wants to spend their time farming things, I'm more than willing to pay them for their time. Win/Win as far as I'm concerned. 

Koreas reason for not wanting RMT in D3 is not a pure one  :)  I'll let people figure it out.

This whole RMAH thing started to become funny for me, nowadays i watch all those D3 discusions for giggles (it is sad that i used to wait day one release date to purchase this junk).

RMAH, not being primary reason, is a huge one that turned me off this game.

However, primary reason that shoo-ed me away is statement of Jay Wilson (if that is name of that fat #&% that is main director) that said that DIABLO III IS NOT PLAYED RIGHT IF IT WAS PLAYED IN SINGLE PLAYER. I dont give a damn if he want to evolve main gameplay factor around item farming, which is the main point of his statement. It is that i never liked a concept of Battle.net and/or online competitive play or w/e. I played Diablo in singleplayer all the time. Now many of you will tell me that i can still play it in singleplayer. Yes i know it, but acording to Blizz development team, it is still not right. I dont want developer of any game, whichever that game be, to tell me whats right and whats not. 

 Maybe i want to play Bot game only all the time in LoL, maybe i want to screw around Stormwind all day long in WoW one-shoting rats, maybe i want to barfight only in GW2, just let me play my game the way i want to and dont tell me whats right and whats not. I dont care that majority lazy #$@s will cash out for their equipment because that is primary goal of game in this state and "the only right way". Whoever want to support devs immature behavior, let them be. However, they lost my 60e and my pocket remains full. I am glad that i expressed my honest possible opinion about this. Love you all, and peace be with you :)

I do not want to play D3 at all but I am heavly thinking of  buying it for the RMT to bot and sell.  Worst case items sell for 5-10$ each. I can still make the cost of the game back in a few days and then the rest is pocket change.  So in a months time I could make atleast  200-500$ a month. 

I am even willing to have accounts banned long as i make x2 of cost to resupply accounts.

The Koreans don't want RMT in Diablo 3 becaue they want to tax people on the items they sell, as well as Blizzard on the money it makes, at 17.5% VAT.

Read the news once in a while.

Originally posted by banshe13

I do not want to play D3 at all but I am heavly thinking of  buying it for the RMT to bot and sell.  Worst case items sell for 5-10$ each. I can still make the cost of the game back in a few days and then the rest is pocket change.  So in a months time I could make atleast  200-500$ a month. 

 

I am even willing to have accounts banned long as i make x2 of cost to resupply accounts.

+1

The only real winners will be programmers designing work arounds for bots so players can farm in diablo.    

hehe, funny, so the koreans are gonna sell us europeans and americans their items again i guess, since they cant sell them their own :P

Originally posted by expresso

This whole bots thing is a null argument, the requirement to always being online when playing D3 will almost (I did say almost) rules out any kind of effective botting - the reason being the online requirement is not there for pure DRM reasons, D3's game content other than art/sound is not stored on the client it's streamed to the player from the D3 servers;

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Due to this it will be very hard to create a bot to farm anything but normal difficulty very slowly.

 

Botting worked well in D1/D2 because it was all stored on the client and there isn't any real kind of anti-bottong system in place, where by D3 I am sure will use a WoW's wardens system.

 

As to the RMTAH - its only a problem cus Blizzard have have introduced it, if it was announced for swtor or gw2 people would be screaming "what a great idea". - Bottom line don't use it.

Um no!!!!!!!!

I would not have bought tor nor would i guy gw2 if it had a rmtah i will stick to my d2 median xl for my d3 fix it's better then what blizz did for 3 anyway went 3d with diablo gag looks like shit in 3d.

I can see it now....

A couple months after launch i will log in and want to run some hell mode but every game I join Ill be shunned because I didnt want to spend 50 bucks on my gear from the koreans selling crap on the RMT.

This is game will become not only pay2win but pay2play as well... because you will be forced to by item just so that other people dont kick you out of their games

Originally posted by illorion

I can see it now....

through what, your crystal ball?

Originally posted by expresso

Originally posted by Gravarg

I guess I better get started on learning korean.  I sure as hell don't want to play on NA servers with RMT...there's a reason why people hate RMT...and Blizzard just joined the ranks of an RMT company.  They don't even have to pay thier employees...I mean players....

/yawn

Blizzards RMAH is the ultimate player driven economy - these items do not appear out of thin air, a player needs to find the item(s) by playing the game choose not to use it themselves, break it down for mats, sell it for gold, keep it for the future or give it to a friend before he might consider the RMAH.  What ever he does there is still only one of that item if he dosen't use it some one else might as well and if a few $ changes hands in a secure enviroment then whats the harm?

That or we have;

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It's been said a million times already no one needs to use the RMAH to win at D3, all items that will appear on the RMAH have to be found by players and have to be posted by players - nothing they might find on the RMAH will be of the reach of any player for simply playing the game, there is a traditional ingame gold AH as well as RMAH.

Now lets all stop acting like 5 year olds, and grow up.  It's my bed time.

 

If you use a 3rd party RMT site and get scammed, you deserve it...I hope they charge up 500 million on your card :)

People think that WoW gets hacked alot.  Diablo 3 is going to set a record.  I've already had to cancel a credit card thanks to WoW.  So I'll pass on Blizzard's horrible security.  A 3 year old could hack thier servers.

Over 20 years of playing online games and I've never had an account hacked (other than PSN hack).  Blizzard switches over to B.net accounts and not even 24 hours later, it's hacked lol.  Sadly I wasn't the only one.  I know 12 other friends that also got hacked when the switch occured.  All of which, had thier account banned for RMT activity.  Blizzard lost my money about 3 hours after they launched the whole battle.net account BS.

Originally posted by illorion

I can see it now....

A couple months after launch i will log in and want to run some hell mode but every game I join Ill be shunned because I didnt want to spend 50 bucks on my gear from the koreans selling crap on the RMT.

This is game will become not only pay2win but pay2play as well... because you will be forced to by item just so that other people dont kick you out of their games

Sounds about right. Its much like raids in WoW or some such, with their GearScore. "You must be this 733t, to play here..."... ^^ 

But cheer up, there will always be people who don't want to spend any money. Perhaps you can form a guild.  I have no problem with spending money on a game I enjoy, so I doubt I'll have any problem in that regard.