Trending Games | Continent of the Ninth Seal | Magerealm | Wizard101 | Guild Wars 2

    Facebook Twitter YouTube
Login:  Password:   Remember?  
Show Quick Gamelist Jump to Random Game
Members:2,996,176 Users Online:0
Games:837  Posts:6,461,307
Recent forum postsRSS
Active threads
Cloud view
List all forums
General Forums
Developers Corner General Discussion
Popular Game Forums
Click a status to find game forum
Game Forums
Click a letter to find game forum
2029 Online 2112: Revolution 2Moons 4Story 8BitMMO 9 Dragons A Mystical Land A Tale in the Desert III A3 ACE Online AD2460 ARGO Online Aberoth Absolute Force Online Absolute Terror Achaea Adellion Aerrevan Aetolia, the Midnight Age Age of Armor Age of Conan Age of Empires Online Age of Mourning Age of Wulin Age of Wushu Aida Arenas Aika Aion Albion Online Alganon All Points Bulletin (APB) Allods Online Altis Gates Amazing World Anarchy Online Ancients of Fasaria Andromeda 5 Angels Online Angry Birds Epic Anime Ninja Anime Pirates Anime Trumps Anmynor Anno Online Applo Arcane Hearts Arcane Legends ArchLord ArcheAge Archeblade Archlord 2 Archlord X Armored Warfare Ascend: Hand of Kul Asda 2 Asda Story Ashen Empires Asheron's Call Asheron's Call 2 Astera Online Astonia III Astro Empires Astro Lords: Oort CLoud Asura Force Atlantica Online Atriarch Aura Kingdom Aurora Blade Auto Assault Avatar Star Battle Dawn Battle Dawn Galaxies Battle for Graxia Battle of 3 Kingdoms Battle of the Immortals Battlecruiser Online Battlestar Galactica Online Battlestar Reloaded Beyond Protocol Bionic Marine Command Online Black Aftermath Black Desert Black Gold Black Prophecy Black Prophecy Tactics: Nexus Conflict Blackguards 2 Blacklight Retribution Blade & Soul Blade Hunter Blade Wars Blazing Throne Bless Blitz 1941 Blood and Jade Bloodborne Bloodlines Champions Boot Hill Heroes Borderlands 2 Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel Bound by Flame Bounty Bay Online Brain Storm Bravada Bravely Default Bravely Second Brawl Busters. Brick-Force Bright Shadow Bullet Run Business Tycoon Online CTRacer Cabal Online Caesary Call of Camelot Call of Gods Call of Thrones Camelot Unchained Canaan Online Cardmon Hero Cartoon Universe CasinoRPG Cast & Conquer Castle Empire Castlot Celtic Heroes Champions Online Champions of Regnum Chaos Online Child of Light Chroma Squad Chrono Tales Citadel of Sorcery CitiesXL Citizen Zero City of Decay City of Heroes City of Steam City of Transformers City of Villains Civilization Online Clan Lord Clash of Clans Cloud Nine Club Penguin Colony of War Command & Conquer: Tiberium Alliances Company of Heroes Online Conquer Online Conquer Online 3 Continent of the Ninth (C9) Core Blaze Core Exiles Corum Online Craft of Gods Crimecraft Crimelife 2 Cronous Crota II Crowfall Crusaders of Solaris Cultures Online Cyber Monster 2 Cyberpunk 2077 Céiron Wars
D&D Online DC Universe DK Online DOTA DOTA 2 DUST 514 DV8: Exile Dalethaan Dance Groove Online Dark Age of Camelot Dark Ages Dark Legends Dark Orbit Dark Relic: Prelude Dark Solstice Dark Souls 2 Dark and Light DarkEden Online DarkSpace Darkblood Online Darkest Dungeon Darkfall Darkfall: Unholy Wars Darkwind: War on Wheels Das Tal Dawn of Fantasy Dawntide DayZ Dead Earth Dead Frontier Dead Island Dead Island 2 Dead Island: Riptide Deco Online Deep Down Deepworld Defiance Deicide Online Dekaron Demons at the Horizon Desert Operations Destiny Diablo 3 Diamonin Digimon Battle Dino Storm Disciple Divergence Divina Divine Souls Divinity: Original Sin Dofus Dominus Online Dragon Age: Inquisition Dragon Ball Online Dragon Born Online Dragon Crusade Dragon Empires Dragon Eternity Dragon Fin Soup Dragon Heart Online Dragon Nest Dragon Oath Dragon Pals Dragon Raja Dragon's Call Dragon's Call II Dragon's Prophet DragonSky DragonSoul Dragona Dragonica Dragons and Titans Drakengard 3 Dream of Mirror Online Dreamland Online Dreamlords: The Reawakening Drift City Duels Dungeon Blitz Dungeon Fighter Online Dungeon Overlord Dungeon Party Dungeon Rampage Dungeon Runners Dungeon of the Endless Dying Light Dynastica Dynasty Warriors Online Dynasty of the Magi EIN (Epicus Incognitus) EVE Online Earth Eternal Earth and Beyond Earthlock: Festival of Magic Earthrise Eclipse War Ecol Tactics Online Eden Eternal Edge of Space Einherjar - The Viking's Blood Elder Scrolls Online Eldevin Elf Online Elite: Dangerous Embers of Caerus Emil Chronicle Online Empire Empire & State Empire Craft Empire Universe 3 EmpireQuest Empires of Galldon End of Nations Endless Ages Endless Blue Moon Online Endless Online Entropia Universe EpicDuel Erebus: Travia Reborn Eredan Eternal Blade Eternal Lands Eternal Saga Ether Fields Ether Saga Online Eudemons Online EuroGangster EverEmber Online EverQuest Next EverQuest Online Adventures Evernight Everquest Everquest II Evony Exarch Exorace F.E.A.R. Online Fable Legends Face of Mankind Fairyland Online Fall of Rome Fallen Earth Fallen Sword Fallout 4 Fallout Online Family Guy Online Fantage Fantasy Earth Zero Fantasy Realm Online Fantasy Tales Online Fantasy Worlds: Rhynn Faunasphere Faxion Online Fearless Fantasy Ferentus Ferion Fiesta Online Final Fantasy Type-0 HD Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XIV Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Firefall Fists of Fu Florensia Flyff Football Manager Live Football Superstars Force of Arms Forge Forsaken Uprising Forsaken World Fortnite Fortuna Forum for Discussion of Everlight Freaky Creatures Free Realms Freesky Online Freeworld Fung Wan Online Furcadia Fury Fusion Fall
GRAV GalaXseeds Galactic Command Online Game of Thrones: Seven Kingdoms Gameglobe Gate To Heavens Gates of Andaron Gatheryn Gauntlet Gekkeiju Online Ghost Online Ghost Recon Online Gladiatus Glitch Global Agenda Global Soccer Gloria Victis Glory of Gods GoGoRacer Goal Line Blitz Gods Rush Gods and Heroes GodsWar Online Golemizer Golf Star GoonZu Online Graal Kingdoms Granado Espada Online Grand Chase Grand Fantasia Grepolis Grimlands Guild Wars Guild Wars 2 Guild Wars Factions Guild Wars Nightfall H1Z1 Habbo Hotel Hailan Rising HaloSphere2 Hand of Fate Haven & Hearth Hawken Heart Forth Alicia Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft Helbreath Hellgate Hellgate: London Hello Kitty Online Hero Online Hero Zero Hero's Journey Hero: 108 Online HeroSmash Heroes & Generals Heroes & Legends: Conquerors of Kolhar Heroes in the Sky Heroes of Atlan Heroes of Bestia Heroes of Gaia Heroes of Might and Magic Online Heroes of Thessalonica Heroes of Three Kingdoms Heroes of the Storm Hex Holic Online Hostile Space Hunter Blade Huxley Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition Illutia Illyriad Immortals USA Immune Imperator Imperian Inferno Legend Infestation: Survivor Stories Infinite Crisis Infinity Infinity Iris Online Iron Grip: Marauders Irth Worlds Island Forge Islands of War Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted Jade Dynasty Jagged Alliance Online Juggernaut Jumpgate Jumpgate Evolution KAL Online Kakele Online Kaos War Karos Online Kartuga Kicks Online Kill Strain King of Kings 3 Kingdom Heroes Kingdom Under Fire II Kingdom of Drakkar Kingory Kings Era Kings and Legends Kings of the Realm KingsRoad Kitsu Saga Kiwarriors Knight Age Knight Online Knights of Dream City Kothuria Kung Foo! Kunlun Online Kyn L.A.W. LEGO Universe La Tale Land of Chaos Online Landmark Lands of Hope: Redemption LastChaos League of Angels League of Legends - Clash of Fates Legend of Edda: Vengeance Legend of Golden Plume Legend of Grimrock 2 Legend of Katha Legend of Mir 2 Legend of Mir 3 Legendary Champions Lego Minifigures Online Lichdom: Battlemage Life is Feudal Light of Nova Lime Odyssey Line of Defense Lineage Lineage Eternal: Twilight Resistance Lineage II Linkrealms Loong Online Lord of the Rings Online Lords Online Lords of the Fallen Lords of the Fallen 2 Lost Saga Lucent Heart Lunia Lusternia: Age of Ascension Luvinia World
MU Online Mabinogi Maestia: Rise of Keledus MagiKnights Magic Barrage Magic World Online Manga Fighter MapleStory Martial Heroes Marvel Heroes Marvel Super Hero Squad Online Marvel: Avengers Alliance Mass Effect 4 MechWarrior Online Megaten Meridian 59 : Evolution Merlin MetalMercs Metaplace Metin 2 MicroVolts Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor Midkemia Online Might & Magic Heroes Online Might & Magic Heroes: Kingdoms Might & Magic X: Legacy MilMo Minecraft Mini Fighter Minions of Mirth Ministry of War Monato Esprit Monkey King Online Monkey Quest Monster & Me Monster Hunter 4: Ultimate Monster Madness Online MonsterMMORPG Moonlight Online: Tales of Eternal Blood Moonrise Mordavia Mortal Online Mourning My Lands Myst Online: URU Live Myth Angels Online Myth War Myth War 2 Mythborne Mytheon Mythic Saga Mythos N.E.O Online NIDA Online Nadirim Naviage: The Power of Capital Navy Field Necropolis Need for Speed World Nemexia Neo's Land NeoSteam Neocron Nether Neverwinter Nexus: The Kingdom Of The Winds NinjaTrick NosTale Nova Genesis Novus Aeterno Oberin Odin Quest Odyssey RPG Ogre Island Omerta 3 Online Boxing Manager Onverse Oort Online Order & Chaos Online Order of Magic Original Blood Origins Return Origins of Malu Orion's Belt Otherland Forums OverSoul Overkings Overwatch Oz Online Oz World Pandora Saga Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Panzar Parabellum Parallel Kingdom Parfait Station Path of Exile Pathfinder Online Perfect World Perpetuum Online Persona V Phantasy Star Online 2 Phantasy Star Universe Phoenix Dynasty Online Phylon Pi Story Picaroon Pillars of Eternity Pirate Galaxy Pirate Storm Pirate101 PirateKing Online Pirates of the Burning Sea Pirates of the Caribbean Online Pixie Hollow Planeshift Planet Arkadia Planet Calypso PlanetSide 2 Planetside Planets³ Playboy Manager Pocket Legends Pockie Ninja Pockie Pirates Pockie Saints Pokémon X and Y PoxNora Prime World Prime: Battle for Dominus Priston Tale Priston Tale II Prius Online Prodigy Project Blackout Project Gorgon Project Powder Project Titan Forums Project Wiki Project Zomboid Puzzle Pirates Quest for Infamy Quickhit Football
R2 Online RAN Online RF Online ROSE Online Rage of 3 Kingdoms Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online II RaiderZ Rail Nation Rakion Rappelz RappelzSEA Ravenmarch Realm Fighter Realm of Sierra Realm of the Mad God Realm of the Titans Realms Online Rebel Galaxy Reclamation Red Stone Red War: Edem's Curse Regnum Online Remnant Knights Renaissance Repulse Requiem: Memento Mori Rift RiotZone Rise Rise of Dragonian Era Rise of Empire Rise of the Tycoon Risen 3: Titan Lords Rising of King Risk Your Life Rivality Rockfree Rohan: Blood Feud Role Play Worlds Roll n Rock Roma Victor Romadoria Rosh Online Roto X Rubies of Eventide Ruin Online Rumble Fighter Runes of Magic Runescape Rust Rusty Hearts Ryzom S4 League SAGA SD Gundam Capsule Fighter Online SMITE SUN Sacred 3 Sagramore Salem SaySayGirls Scarlet Blade Scions of Fate Seal Online: Evolution Second Chance Heroes Second Life Secret of the Solstice Seed Serenia Fantasy Seven Seas Saga Seven Souls Online Sevencore Shadow Realms Shadow of Legend Shadowbane Shadowgate Shadowrun Chronicles Shaiya Shards Online Shattered Galaxy Sho Online Shot Online Shroud of the Avatar SideQuest Siege on Stars Sigonyth: Desert Eternity Silkroad Online Skyblade Skyforge SmashMuck Champions Smoo Online Soldier Front Soul Master Soul Order Online Soul of Guardian South Park: The Stick of Truth Space Heroes Universe Sparta: War of Empires Spellcasters Sphere Spiral Knights Spirit Tales Splash Fighters Squad Wars Star Citizen Star Conflict Star Sonata 2 Star Stable Star Supremacy Star Trek Online Star Trek: Infinite Space Star Wars Galaxies Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures Star Wars: The Old Republic StarQuest Online Starbound Stargate Worlds Starlight Story Starpires State of Decay SteelWar Online Stone Age 2 Stormfall: Age of War Stormthrone Storybricks Stronghold Kingdoms Styx: Master of Shadows Sudden Attack Supremacy 1914 Supreme Destiny Sword Coast Legends Sword Girls Sword of Destiny: Rise of Aions SwordX Swords of Heavens Swordsman
TERA TS Online TUG Tabula Rasa Tactica Online Tales Runner Tales of Fantasy Tales of Pirates Tales of Pirates II Tales of Solaris Talisman Online Tamer Saga Tank Ace Tantra Online Tatsumaki: Land at War Terra Militaris TerraWorld Online Terraria Thang Online The 4th Coming The Agency The Aurora World The Banner Saga The Banner Saga 2 The Black Watchmen The Chronicle The Chronicles of Spellborn The Crew The Division The Epic Might The Hammers End The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing 2 The Legend of Ares The Lost Titans The Matrix Online The Mighty Quest for Epic Loot The Missing Ink The Mummy Online The Myth of Soma The Pride of Taern The Realm Online The Repopulation The Secret World The Sims Online The Strategems The West The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt Theralon There Therian Saga Thrones of Chaos Tibia Tibia Micro Edition Tiger Knight Titan Siege Titans of Time Toontown Online Top Speed Topia Online Torchlight Torment: Tides of Numenera Total Domination Transformers Universe Transistor Transverse Trapped Dead: Lockdown Traveller AR Travia Online Travian Triad Wars Trials of Ascension Tribal Hero Tribal Wars Tribes Universe Trickster Online Trove Troy Online True Fantasy Live Online Turf Battles Twelve Sky Twelve Sky 2 Twilight War Tynon U.B. Funkeys UFO Online URDEAD Online Ultima Forever: Quest for the Avatar Ultima Online Ultima X: Odyssey Ultimate Naruto Ultimate Soccer Boss Uncharted Waters Online Undercover 2: Merc Wars Underlight Unification Wars Universe Online Utherous Utopia Valkyrie Sky Vampire Lord Online Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Vanquish Space Vector City Racers Vendetta Online Victory - Age of Racing Vindictus Virtonomics Vis Gladius Visions of Zosimos VoidExpanse Voyage Century Online W.E.L.L. Online WAR (Warhammer Online) WAR2 Glory WYD Global Wakfu War Thunder War of 2012 War of Angels War of Legends War of Mercenaries War of Thrones War of the Immortals WarFlow Waren Story Warflare Wargame1942 Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade Warhammer 40K: Dark Millennium Online Warhammer Online: Wrath of Heroes Warkeepers Warrior Epic Wartune Wasteland 2 WebLords Wild West Online WildStar Wind of Luck WindSlayer 2 Wings of Destiny Wish Wizard101 Wizardry Online Wizards and Champions Wonder King Wonderland Online World Golf Tour World of Battles World of Darkness World of Heroes World of Kung Fu World of Pirates World of Speed World of Tanks World of Tanks Generals World of Warcraft World of Warplanes World of Warriors World of Warships World of the Living Dead WorldAlpha Wurm Online Xenoblade Chronicles 3D Xenoblade Chronicles: X Xenocell Xiah Xsyon Xulu YS Online Yitien ZU Online Zentia Zero Online Zero Online: The Andromeda Crisis Zodiac Online Zombies Ate My Pizza eRepublik Discussion Forums

General Discussion

General Discussion 

News & Features Discussion  » Diablo 3: Blizzard Removes RMT to Get South Korean Approval

8 Pages First « 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 » Search
159 posts found


Joined: 3/10/10
Posts: 2207

1/14/12 11:18:06 AM#101

Originally posted by Mupf

 and if Blizzard takes a small cut from the transaction in the process, so much the better. 


Why do most of the players ignore that it is not only Blizzard, it's Ebay (through Paypal). For me, this makes it even worse, but I am one of thos idealistic guys who think it is a good thing to NOT support companies with questionable policies (= paypal)


You don't have to cash out (use paypal) you can keep the money in your Blizzard account and use it to buy wow subscriptions and stuff from blizzard shop.

But you also dont have to use the RMAH either.  Why is everyone getting so worked up over this?


Novice Member

Joined: 8/12/03
Posts: 1488


1/14/12 11:32:55 AM#102

You CANNOT cash out, from what I´ve read.

As with most cash shops once you turn currency into virtual Blizzard currency, there is no way back to RL currency.


Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/09/04
Posts: 3611

If you can't kill it, don't make it mad.

1/14/12 12:09:46 PM#103
Originally posted by korent1991
Originally posted by Wraithone
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by tawess

So what i get from this is that it is better to have a black market driven by hacking/duping and theft completley out of any ones controll then a legit source were Blizzard can monitor and support the user when something goes wrong? Because paying with real cash for tiems happen in the earlier Diablo games... No point in pretending like it did not. So it is not like this is a new invention.


But by all means, support the idea och black market trading and free for all scamming... It is a great motivation to protect... well i am not sure what you are trying to protect.

People that can think things through would see that this isn't going to control the black market that utilizes hacking and duping. What it WILL do is increase the amount of people that use such sites. It will increase the number of phishing and hacking attempts because there is more to gain. 

It increases all the negative behavoir you believe it will control and thats the only thing it can do there is no hope of this lessening any of this. 

All this was intended to do is give Blizz a cut of the money. It doesn't help the players. 

Seriously sit down and think this thing through, how does this help players?

Players can make money? Wrong, few will but most will not be able to compete with the prices set by RMTs. Some will get items from employees farming endlessly while others will obtain goods to sale by hacking accounts and stealing passwords. If you believe a single individual can realisticly compete with that then your kidding yourselves. 




Now if Blizzard were smart they would pull an APB. Players could sell items on the market place for Blizz Cash. Blizz cash can only be used in Blizzard games like WoW, D3, etc. You can pay for game time for games like WoW, use it on the market place, etc. 

That I would support. 

Not this crap that does nothing to help anyone but Blizzard and the RMTs. 


I suggest that you take your own advise ... and think this through. How many are going to go to some shady 3rd party site, and take the risk of malware or any number of other risks, when they can use the in game AH, which is secured *server* side by Blizzard?   This IS about protecting the players, and if Blizzard takes a small cut from the transaction in the process, so much the better.  This IS a business after all.  

When all is said and done, those who object to an either/or dynamic (in this case, time/money), have the option of not playing games that use that dynamic.   It really is that simple. 

The won't have to go to some 3rd party site because the 3rd party will come to them, and the 4th and the 5th and the 6th.... and so on. This game will be plagued with chineese farmers and hackers, it will have the most attacks on players accounts  because they will be in danger of someone stealing their information. The man said it right and you're claiming again it's for players protection xD. 

It IS ment only for blizzard and it's because they want some money out of it. They tried to fight chineese farmers in wow but it's just too many of them (let's face it, they are afterall chineese) so they just gave up and stood by there side. If nothing they could pull some money out of it, eh?... 

It's a nice tought that PLAYERS would be able to sell stuff to eachother trough this shop. But since there will be more farmers, hackers and scammers than actual players it's not that nice anymore. 

It will be plagued and it will happen fast.


It IS for the players protection.  Its also for Blizzards profit... ^^ Its in Blizzards best interests to keep the accounts secure, and to keep the profits flowing in.  I've no doubt that there will be a LOT of effort put into subverting the system, but Blizzard isn't some small indie game company with limited resources... Blizzard can afford to hire the most talented people, and purchase the most advanced hardware in the world.  Its going to be an interesting arms race. 

From what I understand about the new system, the majority of sensitive data remains *server* side. Its an established fact that anything client side is vulnerable (one has to consider it to be in the hands of the enemy).   Moving the RMT in house makes it easier to control, and also makes it over all safer for the players.  It also makes Blizzard some profit as well, but then this is a business. Over all, I'd much rather such things be handled in house, than through some shady 3rd party site. 


Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/09/04
Posts: 3611

If you can't kill it, don't make it mad.

1/14/12 12:18:19 PM#104
Originally posted by korent1991
Originally posted by Tombill
Originally posted by gaeanprayer

For God's sake, I wish people would think things like this through before posting. Who gives a shit if Blizzard compares the IPs and bans them, unless they can do it within seconds it's irrelevant. Do you know how much money could be made in the time it would take for them to sift through the IPs of the people playing, find the ones worth banning, and follow through with it? One would think the damage would already be done by then, no?

This is their (gold farmers) job, they have nothing better to do, so it doesn't matter if they get banned, they just make a new account and start all over. The price of a box is nothing compared to the money there is to be made.

 It is not within seconds it is within miliseconds... on distances as short as 50 kms ...

;))) It is an automated tool/script  they installed around 6 months ago.

I tested it with a friend: his account was blocked in a second. Fully automated.


edit: the "victim" gets an email that his account is blocked due to suspicious IP access within seconds.

The access is blocked for X time and reactiviation is necessary with a new pasword.

Now look who isn't "up to date" ... :)))


so this would mean if I play the game in the evening at my home, and early tomorrow I'm on a bussines trip to another country and I log in to the game at noon when I get there (I happen to have few hours to spare before I can met the person I have arranged meeting with) I'll get a ban instantly? :D 

I'm sure a lot of people are traveling this days on a daily basis eh?


Yes, thats how it works. I've seen it in practice. I didn't get a ban, but I did get a auto request for my authenticator (which I had with me ^^).  After I got back home, I got another auto request for my autheticator.  So they ARE checking log in IP's in real time.  Thats just the tip of the iceberg in terms of what can be done, if a company cares enough to put time/talent and money into dealing with these problems. 


Hard Core Member

Joined: 8/02/08
Posts: 777

1/14/12 1:01:15 PM#105

I doubt the decision to remove the RMT auction house in South Korea will have much of an impact in EU/NA.

Sure there will be a lot of debating but in the end all the Blizzard fans (and a lot of other gamesplayers) will buy D3 while others (including me) will prefer the most obvious alternative, Torchlight II.

With or without RMT auctionhouse, my money is with Torchlight II for a lot of reasons. Mod-support being one of them.


We dont need casuals in our games!!! Errm... Well we DO need casuals to fund and populate our games - But the games should be all about "hardcore" because: We dont need casuals in our games!!!
(repeat ad infinitum)


Novice Member

Joined: 3/12/11
Posts: 71

1/14/12 1:15:56 PM#106

Really the only way to please the people who hate the idea of people being able to buy items is to completely disable any form of trading.


Lets say ... no RMT... well people are still going to go to those shady sites to buy stuff anyway.

But with RMT, your more everyday kind of person will be partaking in it.


Pve wise, RMT doesn't mean ****, 4 freekin people per game. There aren't raids... no addon support (dmg meters).

Pvp, can't really say much, haven't been able to really test it much to see how big a part gear would play.


I think, once I have good gear, then go to pvp and beat people, I'm going to falsely claim that I bought all my gear just to troll them.


Spotlight Poster

Joined: 8/24/06
Posts: 3336

1/14/12 3:07:02 PM#107

I guess I better get started on learning korean.  I sure as hell don't want to play on NA servers with RMT...there's a reason why people hate RMT...and Blizzard just joined the ranks of an RMT company.  They don't even have to pay thier employees...I mean players....


I've never seen a game that went from 100% "I'm so getting this game 1 second after launch" to "Nope, I wouldn't touch it with a 39 and a half foot pole" so quickly lol.




Joined: 3/10/10
Posts: 2207

1/14/12 3:16:08 PM#108
Originally posted by Gravarg

I guess I better get started on learning korean.  I sure as hell don't want to play on NA servers with RMT...there's a reason why people hate RMT...and Blizzard just joined the ranks of an RMT company.  They don't even have to pay thier employees...I mean players....


Blizzards RMAH is the ultimate player driven economy - these items do not appear out of thin air, a player needs to find the item(s) by playing the game choose not to use it themselves, break it down for mats, sell it for gold, keep it for the future or give it to a friend before he might consider the RMAH.  What ever he does there is still only one of that item if he dosen't use it some one else might as well and if a few $ changes hands in a secure enviroment then whats the harm?

That or we have;

  • All items Bind of Pickup
  • Dodgy 3rd party website selling items and stealing peoples accounts
It's been said a million times already no one needs to use the RMAH to win at D3, all items that will appear on the RMAH have to be found by players and have to be posted by players - nothing they might find on the RMAH will be of the reach of any player for simply playing the game, there is a traditional ingame gold AH as well as RMAH.

Now lets all stop acting like 5 year olds, and grow up.  It's my bed time.


Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/03/10
Posts: 175

1/14/12 3:46:56 PM#109
In every single MMO game out there the stuff I earn during playing is worth nothing, in D3 I can sell it(in both cases legally that is). No matter how low farmers will try to undercut, I can do it more and still get a profit unlike in every other game. This is interesting enough to try and see how it works. Blizz got balls fer sure.

Novice Member

Joined: 12/17/10
Posts: 158

1/14/12 4:10:45 PM#110

Honestly RMT transactions will be in most games anyways and this way they can regulate it as well.

Also if you play alot and get good items you will be able to make some real money back.

See Diablo 2 prices and we should get something similar.

Most high level items 50c to $2 and only the rarest are worth hundreds.

This will benefit both sides except in the case where someones account gets stolen or cc, but thats something else.


Novice Member

Joined: 1/10/11
Posts: 17

1/14/12 4:13:37 PM#111
Originally posted by crazynanny
In every single MMO game out there the stuff I earn during playing is worth nothing, in D3 I can sell it(in both cases legally that is). No matter how low farmers will try to undercut, I can do it more and still get a profit unlike in every other game. This is interesting enough to try and see how it works. Blizz got balls fer sure.

That's my favourite argumentation from those who like the idea. Everyone who will use the RMAH says, yeah, I can finally make a profit... guys, there is no business where everyone makes a profit, and for sure none where you have fees on every aspect of the process. So who is gonna lose? Hand me some popcorn, this is gonna be fun...


Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/05/09
Posts: 538

1/14/12 8:25:38 PM#112

 Heh , the only thing I'll write here is this : RMT should be punishable by death.

You heard correctly.  You want RMT? Then go play texas hold'em online or something , they don't belong in RPG's.  Just the fact that D3 is online only makes it crappy , and having a lame Auction house I can already smell the botters from miles away. D2 got out of hand after Expansion came out. It had BARELY no botting before Xpac , once Xpac got out , it was like holy jesus on wheels , botters left and right. Good job on S. Korea on stepping in.  +1 for them.


Elite Member

Joined: 10/12/03
Posts: 2961

1/14/12 9:30:47 PM#113

Originally posted by Mupf

Originally posted by crazynanny

In every single MMO game out there the stuff I earn during playing is worth nothing, in D3 I can sell it(in both cases legally that is). No matter how low farmers will try to undercut, I can do it more and still get a profit unlike in every other game. This is interesting enough to try and see how it works. Blizz got balls fer sure.

That's my favourite argumentation from those who like the idea. Everyone who will use the RMAH says, yeah, I can finally make a profit... guys, there is no business where everyone makes a profit, and for sure none where you have fees on every aspect of the process. So who is gonna lose? Hand me some popcorn, this is gonna be fun...



In War - Victory.
In Peace - Vigilance.
In Death - Sacrifice.


Elite Member

Joined: 9/06/10
Posts: 1056

1/14/12 9:45:25 PM#114

Its pretty simple RMT should never have been in the game in the first place.

Its funny how poeple bash F2P games ( usaully because of claims pay2win or claims of only lazy poor people play them)


The RMT system in diablo3 will so make this the ultimate pay2win game EVER


Was the most lame idea ever and the reason i will never play it.


I wonder what the IRS view on poeple making money in this game will be ? LMAO


Will they charge you with tax evasion if you dont declare your "earnings"

case: Coolermaster HAF932
PSU: Antec EA 750watt
RAM: 2x2g G-SKILL DDR3-1600mhz 9-9-9-24
Mb:Gigabyte GA-P55-UD4P
CPU: i5-750 @4ghz
GPU: gtx msi N760 TF 2GD5/OC
cooling: Noctua NH-D14
storage: seagate 600 240GB SSD, 500GB x7200rpm HDD


Novice Member

Joined: 2/04/10
Posts: 260

"you are not prepared!"

1/14/12 10:11:15 PM#115

Personaly i cant wait if my calulations are correct i can make better than the US minimium wage selling wolf pelts!

Thats right every morning im gona wake up @ 5am and start farming wolfs by noon i will have slaughtered somwhere in the neihborhhod of 100 wolfs (Hey im a noob ok!)

Anyway in a week or two after beta ends ill be multiboxing an amy of wolf killers muhahahaha!


Novice Member

Joined: 8/11/06
Posts: 285

1/14/12 10:24:20 PM#116
Originally posted by aslan132

 This just keeps it in house, safer for the player, and discourages scams and farmers. 

LOL! This guy has to be trolling or something because noone could logically deduct that on their own.


Advanced Member

Joined: 12/25/07
Posts: 711

1/14/12 10:28:33 PM#117
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by cpoustie

Sure Blizzard may ship it with no offline mode, I give it at most 1 month before someone like Skidrow/Reloaded/Razor1911 have cracked/engineered a work-around.  Depending on popularity maybe a few more months after said crack for a Hamachi port to appear for lan play.

The sad part is if it were offline/lan-able out of the box, with no RMT AH they would most likely have a couple hundred thousand more sales instead of people waiting for above pirates.

This is both sad and true lol. 

Blizzards new approach to online Piracy is to force people to do it XD. 

This will likely go the way of Real ID, large ammount of protesting and etc. but the problem is this will likely be a little to late to stop it. Blizzard will be the one to lose in this though, not the players because yes... some are already getting prepped to give people offline mode. 

 Seriously what is going on here?  Steam comes to mind to combat piracy.  For crying out loud nearly all the big players are trying and successfully forcing online only type games or purchases.  I do not see a large section saying companies should changed and go back to boxed sales only, and as we all know all the money in gaming is through wannabe games on facebook and mobile apps.  Yet everyone is tearing at the few game companies that actually make video games.

I can't believe people still don't get why this is implemented.  Go install Diablo II and see the items for sale. and the websites for a now 11 1/2 year old game.  People will buy items from Diablo III with or without Blizzard.  Hackers will still hack and botters will still bot the same as they do now on  Hell probably half of the users on here have bought gold in a game at some point.  If we must bitch about something related to Diablo III, lets bitch about not getting our beta key even though we've been a blizzard supporter since Warcraft: Orcs and Humans as well as complain about the total lack of a release because hey its done when its done.


Apprentice Member

Joined: 6/20/10
Posts: 1225

1/15/12 4:52:31 AM#118

Something that really bothers me about the RMAH is where does it fall with respect to taxation? This is a grey area that I can see becoming a problem for the gamer.

What do I mean by this? Well, anything that makes a person money could in essence be taxable. How would a government tax something like D3 though? Would it just assume that every player who plays D3 uses the RMAH even if they don't? Does that mean you have to declare games like D3 in the future on one's tax forms even if you don't make a cent from the game?

Black market is black market: the revenues people make in the game don't affect me, but once something is made legitimate like this RMAH thing, it will affect me whether I use it or not. I don't like mixing entertainment with things like taxation, gambling, etc.

Perhaps my questions might seem strange, but in light of the economic crisis and governments taxing just about everything to try to nickle and dime their citizens and residents, I think the day that people will start making real money (not chump change) on something like this RMAH is the day we will attract the ugly attention of governments in our hobby. We are just speculating that things will sell for cheap, but I have this bad hunch that that might not be true in every case. It all depends on what Blizzard puts in for drop rates for certain items.

I will still be getting D3 and playing it, but am not going to be using the RMAH since I want to keep real life and virtual gaming separate as much as possible, but the day I have to declare I am a D3 player on my tax form is the day I quit gaming online.

Playing MUDs and MMOs since 1994.


Novice Member

Joined: 3/09/05
Posts: 701

Mess With The Rest
Die Like The Best!

1/15/12 5:11:16 AM#119

Way I see it is "Single player game with cash shop".  Activision/Blizzard has become the most greedy company in the world. Now let's see how many other dev's use RMT in single player games all because these greedy aholes did it.


"It's to stop bots/exploiters/dupes". Give me a break it's a way to line their pockets even more.




Novice Member

Joined: 1/04/08
Posts: 1441

1/15/12 5:20:36 AM#120
Originally posted by Tombill
Originally posted by Lexin

Way I see it is "Single player game with cash shop".  Activision/Blizzard has become the most greedy company in the world. Now let's see how many other dev's use RMT in single player games all because these greedy aholes did it.


"It's to stop bots/exploiters/dupes". Give me a break it's a way to line their pockets even more.




Blizzard is the publisher of their own games. Activision isn't even on the box.


irrellevent seeing as there both part of ActivisionBlizzard.

Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling"
Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.

8 Pages First « 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 » Search