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1/12/12 3:15:21 PM#41
Originally posted by kastrix Yea we have that here as well lol. They supposedly (though unconfirmed) had around 12 million at the peak of cataclysm and have lost over 2 million since then (according to official figures), I think someone is telling porkies....
They also forgot to mention that something like 75% of their subscriptions come from Asia. Which pay FAR less for their subscription and don't have a good alternative. Most of their players are in China, where most other MMOs are banned. |
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1/12/12 9:28:46 PM#42
Originally posted by TheHavok Punks on this site need to understand that things don't have to be perfect before they have meaning. If you have a better tool for the numbers that we can't access prove it. Otherwise, this might be the best information out there. Sampling is good enough AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PERFECT. |
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1/12/12 10:53:31 PM#43
Yes, they've lost a huge chunk of NA/EU playerbases.
Do they care? No, they're going to hoover up the Asian market and forget about us.
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1/12/12 11:01:33 PM#44
due to some of us old timers getting bored and seeing the future almost a year till the next exp and who want to play a kids cartoon so relistically 3 years for a real new expansion |
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1/12/12 11:08:47 PM#45
The population always goes up and down every year..People wanna try new games out so they unsub for a month or 2 than bam! Complain about the new game they are trying because its not WoW. Than go back to WoW. Not saying any of the games are better than the other . WoW is a good game! It kept intrested for a long time. What i'm saying is old habits die hard. WoW population will be fine..it always is.. |
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1/12/12 11:23:40 PM#46
What I kind of wonder and maybe someone has figured it out and I haven't heard. How much money including box sales has WOW made so far? That has to be an obscene #. |
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1/12/12 11:24:42 PM#47
Originally posted by Razeron Actually lol the majority of the subs lost are in Asia which is why this is so funny.
When discussing the issue, Blizzard CEO Mike Morhaime said that one of the main issues was that players burned through Cataclysm content far faster than with Wrath of the Lich King. The majority of the subscriber decline comes from the East (where more than half the global subscriber base is located). http://wow.joystiq.com/2011/11/08/wow-subscriber-numbers-down-to-10-3-million-players/ http://deltagamer.com/20033/wow-bleeding-subscribers-activision-blizzard-profits-almost-triple
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1/12/12 11:43:31 PM#48
Funniest part of all that is they released cata with harder than usual content to keep players from progressing at a rapid pace. Then the community backlashes because "its to hard" so Activision-Blizzard rectifies this only to have players quit because they have consumed the content in record time lol.
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1/12/12 11:55:06 PM#49
Originally posted by Dragonantis Hehehe... these last two patches they made some interesting changes and added some neat stuff, and they buff hunters. So I used that free 7day pass to log back in and play and must admit the Looking For Raid tool is nice and the server I play on is as busy as every... but it's no where near like it was during Burning Crusade. Hopefully this Mist of the Panda's expansion thing brings more people back, I tell you thou the community is ruined and so is the economy. Just play WoW for what it is, a mIRC chat room with the ability to zerg instances and troll people. Played: MCO - EQ/EQ2 - WoW - VG - WAR - AoC - LoTRO - DDO - GW - Eve - Rift - FE |
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1/13/12 1:13:31 AM#50
censuswhat? Never used, never heard of it. You said the original number is 6m in NA/EU and then you suddenly say that now there are 1.9m in US. Ok so what about the Eu the rest of NA? What % of the population does this thing measure? |
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1/13/12 1:18:01 AM#51
I played for 6 years before stopping, and never once talked to or played with a single person who used wow census. A completly pointless addon that provides nothing usefull to the user. |
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1/13/12 1:28:36 AM#52
Well i know on my pvp server horde is for the most part extinct. Alliance on the other hand are full of life. On my horde pve servers horde/alliance are equal and packed with players. Same with my other server for my alliance toons while not many 85+ it had the most lowbies i've ever seen. 49+ Sub 20s in elwynn forest during prime hours and thats something i haven't seen since release. Most of the decline has been the pvp servers, i've noticed pve servers have remained unscathed or infact grown some. http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/347892/My-review-of-Diablo-3.html My take on Diablo 3 |
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1/13/12 5:41:27 AM#53
Originally posted by waynejr2 "Punks on this site" bit was a nice touch! I would agree that the figures don't have to be 'Perfect' but only 4% of servers with figures that the site itself regards as even close to accurate?!? C'mon, common sense says that you wouldn't take a punt on anything with only a 4% chance of it being accurate, would you? What's the chances of me surviving this jump across the roof top......about 4%.....sweet, let's go! Hmmmm! To be honest, the vast majority of players could care less about these things because as long as the game is still running and they can play it, that is all that matters. It just gets annoying when you have seen post after post after post claiming the demise of the game based on the figures from these sites claiming they accurately show the current state of the player population when they clearly don't. It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays. |
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1/13/12 9:29:52 AM#54
Originally posted by jason_webb Agreed. Sorry, a 4% sample isn't indicitive of anything really. That's why things like general statistics aren't meant to be taken as gospel, because in a game of numbers, they can be skewed. From my personal observations, I would say WoW is still doing well. I don't see as many people as I used to while out leveling, but I still see plenty of folks participating in end game content. I still see the same faces trolling trade chat in org on a nightly basis. I have no doubt that the sub numbers are down, because of the age of the game, but I doubt things are quite as bleak as folks seem to think they are. I'm sure we'll play this game when MoP releases, and sub numbers go up and then back down. |
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1/13/12 2:18:03 PM#55
Originally posted by Kaneth Sorry. You need to go read a stat book. A 4% PROPER sample can tell a lot. Every political poll in the world has less than a 4% sample but many correlate very well with actual voting patterns. There are LOTS of academic literature published on this. Go to scholar.google.com and search. |
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1/13/12 2:30:24 PM#56
I just posted this in a similar thread, seems apt to post it here too. WoW server status (For US and EU only) as of 20:00GMT (21:00 eu sever time) Jan 13th 2012 - towards the end of the EU peek time and no where near US peek time. Source: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/status & http://us.battle.net/wow/en/status
In short WoW is doing just fine, majority of servers are medium to high with less that 25% EU on low and less that 20% US on low (out of peek time).
Out of the 488 servers 104 (21%) are low, 314 (64%) are medium and 70 (16%) are HighSpin this number any way you guys like but for a game that is 7 years old thats not bad, and clearly shows WoW is just fine (in west atleast).
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1/13/12 2:34:05 PM#57
Originally posted by nariusseldon A 4% sample has a lot of Margin of Error... |
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1/13/12 2:42:39 PM#58
One thing you have to take into account is Swtor.. probably wow's biggest competition ever.... people will play Swtor for the first month or two do what there is to do, think about how great wow use to be... and resub when the shiny wears off... it happens... look at rift wow isn't dieing.. it's pop goes up.. it goes down.. Cata has been bad for numbers thats a fact.. Bliz knows it... MoP beta will be here in a month or two and wow will have its shiny back ... on the other hand if they take much longer than that for Mop beta, they are going to have a lot of annoyed Annual pass holders. and selling pets and mounts wont make up for all the people leaving for guild wars 2...just to get away from wow out of spite.... Anyway, as for the other stuff.. Wowcensus isn't perfect esspecially because half the player base has never heard of it.. but it can give you a general idea... I would take this all with a grain of salt though... The only way Wow will ever die is if Bliz kills it on purpose... |
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1/13/12 2:44:09 PM#59
And passively trying to push for a MOP beta sooner and sooner won't help none. ;-) Member of Talon | www.lakexeno.com |
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1/13/12 2:46:30 PM#60
I doubt there are many bliz devs trolling through these forums esspecially on page 6... I'm just sayin... lol |
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