Originally posted by Zhauric

It's kind of amusing seeing how many continue to come to this thread, read the article (or not) and to do so just to post 'Already left the game'. Well, then why do you care about the article and bother coming to post to it? Are folks supposed to say 'Oh wow, Bob left SWToR. I better leave too!'

If the game wasn't for you that is understandable. There is no perfect game and not every game suit everyone's taste. But these posts are silly and even a waste of time on your own part. Just very silly to me.

Since I decided not to play the game, a silly part of me still wanted to play the "what could have been" version of it since I was a big fan up till the day they announced the Trinity combat style.

So yeah, it's like watching a train wreck in one way, but another side say maybe today will be the day they make the big announcment that "hey guys, we know we blew it, were going to revamp this thing from scratch in the next patch". Or something even closer to the original intent of the games design(pre EA).

Sounds awesome, can't wait to see what else they have in store in the next year(s).

Originally posted by Bunks

Originally posted by eric_w66

Good to hear new content coming. I'm not cancelling, nor are the 2 coworkers who play, and my 5 friends who play. All of us are enjoying the heck out of SWTOR. I don't feel like a sucker because I bought the CE. In fact, even the "Extended" circle of people I know in game (new guildmates, friends of my friends, etc), no one is cancelling...

thats great, but its easy to counter that by saying, that almost the entire SWTOR group on my ventrillo server cancelled last night. 15 out of 19. 2 weren't online and the other 2 had 3 month subs.

 

Indeed, it wasn't just me that cancelled so did all my friends one of which also bought the CE and wish he hadnt. 

Im having fun in swtor and Im typically a sandbox player. (I wasnt even a star wars fan and couldnt care less about a nerdy star wars beta)

Mostly looking forward to the pvp improvements. New Warzone yay!

Good stuff.

OK new content that soon is always nice. It is not too late to turn things around. I hope Bio has their guns lock and loaded and can fire everything they have in the next 30-45 days...or i can tell you things will go South. I can feel it in my bones, this scent in the air, the waters are beginning to get agitated, animals unrested...i have seen this already...many people has seen this happening before already...BIO...you better work fast.

- Fix any remaining UI issues. Work to reshape it a soon as you can;

- Launch a quick pre-emptive stryke on crafting and start working on reshaping it; dont believe people that say crafting should not be a part of your avatar or even influence skills/spelss/combat mechanics. Allow good to optimal crafted items. Allow fusion between 2 or more crafting skills allowing combination of elements;

- Track people that unsubbed and the reason why they did so;

- Whats this i have been hearing about not being able to play in Hi-Res/Hi Quality graphic settings? You got to work on that fast;

- Expand PvE options. Stretch the lerning curve. Eliminate map-path-leading regarding quest leveling; branch the quests; make people not grind, or get lost in the map, but make it be a part of a experience...already ppl at max level??? It is not a good game design choice.

- DONT LISTEN TO YOUR MMO ADVISORS/DESIGNERS, THEY DONT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING. GET YOUR RPG DESIGNING TEAM INSIDE THIS PROJECT NOW!! IF BY ANY CHANCE THEY ARE THE SAME TEAM THAT DEVELOPED YOUR AWESOME RPG GAMES.....BY THE LOVE OF GOD, HOW DID THIS HAPPENED??

- Space combat...that needs work. Not critical but something to work in the near future;

- I heard instances in SWTOR are a great experience...please do not mess this up. Do not add Q buttons for instances. Make players regard the path to enter an instance/dungeon also part of the experience. Dont dumb down the game. If you have been told that people want  "microwave-fast-food" type of game...IT IS NOT TRUE! Watch out for LFG systems, they can mess things up;

- Focus PvP. Make it count in the game world. Give PvP players a rank system award; is there something in the game that makes both PvP/PvE players fight for? Temporary control of a map area? Economy bonuses? Access to a given dungeon? Access to elite quests? Access to crafting goodness? I dont know...never played the game, just firing in all directions;

- Focus PvE. Make things harder for mid to high level solo content. Make people having to group and socialize. Whats the reward on raiding? Shinny gear? A rank name? A tittle? Booooooooooorrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinggg!! What can be done here? I dont know, but you got people geting paid to figure it out. And if i dontwant to raid? Am i a poor vagabond runnning around the fountain a billion times a day? Give me some hard solo elite quests. Make me live the story. Make me dream baby!!!

- And now, the main event, PvE vs PvP: the clash of the titans. Whats the difference between the best PvE players/guilds and the best PvP players/guilds? Whats separates them? The type of gear? The tittles? The way they walk? Boooooooooooooooooooooorrriiiiiiiiiiiinnngg! Create something to appeal both sides of the fences. A renown system on both sides (i said renown because WAR system popped instantly to my mind) Make them consider the path they should walk...goes well with game lore;

- Create a rank system that rewards long time players. A major concern for many real gamers is the way vet players are treated. If i subscribe your game for 1 year and by the time a new expansion gets launched, i am back to the same step as a newcomer...i will get annoyed...trust me, many players will get annoyed;

- And the best advice i can give you, listen to your community.

Sorry if im out of track. Just loading some ideas. Hope you guys succeed.

May the force be with you.

I still have to look at NPCs without eyeballs in cutscenes.  Why the hell would I want an expansion over bug fixes?

to be fair those screenshots look awesome!

I AM NOT LEAVING THIS GAME! The reason why is - I never bought and played it in the first place....

I saw this train wreck coming and got out of the way.

The low rez graphic thing was just a final kick in the nuts.

Originally posted by Bunks

Originally posted by eric_w66

So it's back to WoW and the pandas, got it ;)

I know its hard to beleive this, but most people don't play SWTOR and WOW. There are "other" games in the universe. We had 30 people commited to play SWTOR before beta began. That number dwindled to 19 by launch time because it was so WOW like. Those who stayed on to play it were people who liked WOW and Rift. But the majority or at least half of the 30 who started as SWTOR fans went back to playing non MMO's. Hard to believe I know.

 

 So its now non-MMORPG players aren't happy playing an MMORPG and left? Color me not shocked.

what he said

I'm loving the game and will be playing a long time. This agressive update schedule is going to make it more and more fun as time goes on!

The more people complain about a game, the more succesfull it tends to be. As a developer having lots of people hating your product is a good sign. Warcraft is proof of this. For every one person hateing something you can bet your bottom dollar there is ten people with a good attitude and loving it. :)

It's when no one talks, that's when you worry.

On a side note I have been a fan of this site for some time. Some of you guys however need to just change your attitude, start loving the things that are being made. SWTOR is an astounding immersive game and your lucky to have such a great company like bioware are attached to it. 

The only person hate really affects is yourself.  

This game is the biggest pile of trash ever!  The servers will dwindle down to 3 in 6 months.  Then the layoffs will come and half of bioware will be sold off.  After that we'll see bioware employees in the soup kitchen line!  And bioware/EA employees also eat baby dingos for dinner. 

(PS...Whoever said they were quiting due to server lag must be on some serious drugs.  I haven't had even the tiniest ounce of server lag and I play about 4-8hours a day.  Buy a better PC)

The Future of SWTOR? Easy to predict -> it will become F2P at the end of 2012.

Originally posted by maciopa

The Future of SWTOR? Easy to predict -> it will become F2P at the end of 2012.

This is just plain stupid. They run daoc and warhammer guess what neither game is free 2 play. predicting that bioware/ea will go free 2 play is silly

that and the fact that they have gained players in the first month not actually lost most . Sorry fail troll. 

That said tors future is bright . U dont lke game fine but saying it will go free 2p lay by end of 2012 is naive and stupid.

Hey MMORPG.com

Why don't you guys write an Article about a different Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game.

This is not "getting absurd", its one hundred percent achieved absurdity levels.

Write, about, a, different, game.

Originally posted by Ikeda

The Future of the Old Republic is that the Sith ultimately lose big time.  So people are joining the LOSING side voluntarily.

mm i wonder if usa or other part of the world would aggree.check japan,they lost the war when they went against perl harbor,yet how much chaos it took how much death on both side it took hitler same thing he did lose the war but dam it a lot other lost war vs him before he met us that was in what 20 year period about !put this in perspective here ,3000 year before the movie they could both side have lost the war every 200 years for millienium lol!the only reason they won at the end was because (so far as the movie goes there werent any more sith on the galaxy!lets say there are still some and republic doesnt know? we re back to square one and the war might rage on for another 3000 millienia!

Originally posted by eric_w66

Originally posted by Bunks

Originally posted by eric_w66

So it's back to WoW and the pandas, got it ;)

I know its hard to beleive this, but most people don't play SWTOR and WOW. There are "other" games in the universe. We had 30 people commited to play SWTOR before beta began. That number dwindled to 19 by launch time because it was so WOW like. Those who stayed on to play it were people who liked WOW and Rift. But the majority or at least half of the 30 who started as SWTOR fans went back to playing non MMO's. Hard to believe I know.

 

 So its now non-MMORPG players aren't happy playing an MMORPG and left? Color me not shocked.

I'm also in a clan thats somewhat the same as his and the original members came from a mmorpg but when they quit that old one the members split off to make sub branches of the clan. Some have their own vent but when a new game releases a whole lot of players from every branch pool to the new game to try it out with the other members. Personally the folks from my clan are still playing SW:TOR, they are about 30 still but they've just begun to reach endgame so i'll see where that takes them.

The single player games people play in our clan are usually just time spent waiting on the next MMO and if his clan quit SW:TOR that doesn't mean they arent mmorpg players, it just means they got bored of it.

nm misread