Originally posted by itgrowls

Originally posted by Deleted User

Originally posted by itgrowls

Originally posted by Moaky07

Originally posted by itgrowls

Originally posted by TheHavok

 

TOR is a fun game.....pity folks cant either enjoy it, or get on with their lives.

Oh we'll get on with our lives when people stop claiming it's so fantastic that it cures cancers all across the world Especially review websites, magazines and shows. It's immoral and it's a money grab. That's why I'm on here speaking my mind, what are you here for?

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How wonderfully patronising of you, thank you!

A rushed, mediocre at best MMO with a shitty gameengine and lackluster gameplay. Maybe fun as a singleplayer, though i dont pay 15$ a month for those.

spent to much cash on hookers & blow and had to go with a "free" gameengine.  /FAIL

No i wont resub :P

Originally posted by Ambros123

Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

Originally posted by fatboy21007

this poll will be usless data which does not reflect all the players. It is simple to spam the pole to the answer you want it too.

You can not spam a poll, as every account only has one vote, and multiple accounts are not allowed.

 

Well you have to agree some will vote no just out of hate even though they never bought the game.

 

No doubt.. just the same as people will vote yes out of love? even though they never bought the game.

A lot of people on these forums don't really seem to have much imagination.   You know if I hated a game and really wanted to troll it... I would never pose as a hater.   I would come acrossed as the biggest fanboi ever for that game.

Then every single time someone was upset I would troll their thread and tell them they are a hater etc   You know why?   Because if they were actually a subscriber they would likely quit because they don't want to play a game with fanboi's like me.. that attack any issue with the "you hater" response.   Eventually I could get enough people to quit and actually hurt the product I dislike.

Yet if I did that people who talk about "hate" posts would think I was one of them.. a buddy.. a defender of the game.

Then again maybe that's why the response to any issue is the "you hater" response...  Or in this case a premise that people who vote no never bought the game.. and only those that vote yes bought the game.  Oh and nobody voted yes that didn't buy the game of course.

*ponders*

TOR fans act like some of us have a vendetta. It really is not that, but more to do with the fact when I personally played the game after playing Rift for so long I seriously expected more. These guys can not sit on the excuse of ui is hard to make, or content takes a extremely long time to develop.

Trion has just simply proven alot of what devs are saying latey is just lying. Rift might not have that big feeling or alts that are fun to roll, but they are pretty good at fixing problems. I mean seriously here guys the ILUM exploits are still happening. It is Aion all over again where NCSoft took months to fix the problem.

Just stuff like them promising dual spec, but they can not even cap the respec cost until it is put in just heavily penalizes people for wanting to try new builds. This will only lead to people being forced into cookie cutters because they are too broke to try their own build. This is the scariest impact of this game because people just seem to be just fine with a mmorpg company removing choice in how you want to play.

Originally posted by Puremallace

TOR fans act like some of us have a vendetta.

To be fair, when a handful of posters never, ever miss an opportunity to demonstrate their ire on a few hourly basis, it tends to look like a vendetta.

3 month sub!

Will play at the very minimum until GW2 launches.

I'll be renewing. The game is decent. Nothing great but nothing terrible either. For me it is a nice change of pace for now and gives me a break from my other mmos. Not sure I will be a long term player but they at least will have me around for another month.

Originally posted by papaz1

Originally posted by fatboy21007

this poll will be usless data which does not reflect all the players. It is simple to spam the pole to the answer you want it too.

 

Ah, the sweet smell of fear that subs are going to go down :)

 

The sweetest fear of them all on these boards.

you win! Feel better now?

Originally posted by headphones

Originally posted by DannyGlover

Their goal was to retain 17% of box sales as subs. I think they will meet that goal easily.

makes me kind of sad to think that would be their goal.

if it were my game, i'd be wanting a somewhat higher benchmark.

I'm still trying to find where he pulled that number from.

The only place I can even think of where he got that was from EA reports of 550k subs being their profit minimum. However, that was based on 3.5-4 million boxed sales.

As for the poll, yeah, every sample has it skews. After all, this is a SWTOR thread right? That alone skews it one way or another. Just like metacritic's user ratings. But as someone who likes to tinker with numbers said to me, throw out all the haters/lovers (zeros and Tens) and the user score actually drops below 6.

Samples are a wonderful thing, they can even be very predicitve. It's only the people who throw out one sample and keep another because it suits their beliefs are the one's who use them wrong.

Originally posted by Puremallace

TOR fans act like some of us have a vendetta. It really is not that, but more to do with the fact when I personally played the game after playing Rift for so long I seriously expected more. These guys can not sit on the excuse of ui is hard to make, or content takes a extremely long time to develop.

 

Trion has just simply proven alot of what devs are saying latey is just lying. Rift might not have that big feeling or alts that are fun to roll, but they are pretty good at fixing problems. I mean seriously here guys the ILUM exploits are still happening. It is Aion all over again where NCSoft took months to fix the problem.

 

Just stuff like them promising dual spec, but they can not even cap the respec cost until it is put in just heavily penalizes people for wanting to try new builds. This will only lead to people being forced into cookie cutters because they are too broke to try their own build. This is the scariest impact of this game because people just seem to be just fine with a mmorpg company removing choice in how you want to play.

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Originally posted by Ambros123

Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

Originally posted by fatboy21007

this poll will be usless data which does not reflect all the players. It is simple to spam the pole to the answer you want it too.

You can not spam a poll, as every account only has one vote, and multiple accounts are not allowed.

 

Well you have to agree some will vote no just out of hate even though they never bought the game.

 

the whole idea that someone hates a game is ridicilous.....it is something forum posters on this site have invented, if there should be someone who hates a game they would be a really really low number and that wouldnt affect this poll, now even without the idea of hate, someone small minded could possibly get the idea to click the no button just to push the idea they never subscribed in the first place
 

  resubbing for 4 months till The Secret World.....i wish I could split myself like Jamie Maddrox..that way I can work/sleep/Play Rift / Play SWTOR/ Play EQ2 / Play TSW / Play WoT / Finish Skyrim/  Finish School...hmm  i need 9 of me and 6 computer...

As with alot of people,i'm only playing till something new comes out,been looking forward to TSW for ages now.

Originally posted by Puremallace

This is the scariest impact of this game because people just seem to be just fine with a mmorpg company removing choice in how you want to play.

You have some of these diehards in every game. Regardless what is missing, subpar, or simply bugged to shit they will defend it no matter the cause or effect it has on players. Even if the discussion is over something that players can only benefit from or won't effect them in the least if they weren't to use the feature or issue being discussed they will still dismiss it and downplay the addition, concept, or discussion.

Never fails. Frankly they do more harm than good to these games which is ironic because in their minds their the "number one fan".

Originally posted by coldcut333

As with alot of people,i'm only playing till something new comes out,been looking forward to TSW for ages now.

Not to derail the thread, but I suspect SWTOR and Rift will see very little loss of users when GW2 is released, no matter how well it does. But when TSW is released, that is when the damage to those games will be seen.

Originally posted by DexterMMO

Everyone being the jack of all trades has never ever been a good idea and no game that currentlly allows it is harboring an enormous playerbase.  As for your vendetta claim #2 is what many people dislike this game fall into the trait of. Bioware to my knowledge never promised dual AC(Advanced Classes) , that was a fan request... and it was shot down. Why would you even want dual AC's? you can barely go 31 points one tree and 10 another now. Theres really no point until theres 70-80 levels. As for ingame finances... people are broke because they go out of their way trying to skip as much of the game as possible. I literally struggle to stay under 1 million credits. You make hundreds of thousands completing all the quests on upper level planets and killing a few mobs along the way to the quests. Or even gathering and selling the mats... or crafting and selling what you craft. If anything this game as shoddy when it comes to how inflated the economy is... where everyone can be rich.

They already said they are going to be adding dual specialization to the game.

Why would you want it? Are you kidding? To have a build for PvE and PvP for one. To offer some flexibility between offering different choices you can bring to the table group wise pending on what is needed for another.

Anyways, the issue has always been dual spec in the same AC and has never been about dual ACs so not sure where that is coming from.

I will say the dual spec reference is a more recent development so not sure it is fair to say they promised something and didn't deliver. Although really should have been in there from the beginning least in my opinion.

EDIT: Sorry OP not trying to derail the thread. Look at the bright side...free bumpages for j00!

>_>

Originally posted by DexterMMO

If anything this game as shoddy when it comes to how inflated the economy is... where everyone can be rich.

I once thought the same about WoW...gold seemed, to me, to be raining from the sky, requiring very little effort or native talent to catch.

But they brought in the Daily Welfare Quests anyway; apparently a great segment of the playing populace is downright terrible at generating wealth in MMOs, and some food stamps were required.

I'm certainly no Warren Buffet, just a guy who's played MMOs once or twice before.  It isn't hard to learn the basics of raising funds in MMOs--but a great many people don't seem to have much interest in applying themselves.  As we move later into the "just buy what you need with $RL" generation, I expect the situation to grow even more one-sided.