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1/10/12 11:15:56 AM#21
I had a ton of fun with 2 player diablo 1 on playstation. This could be a cool console dungeon crawl... These types of games are fun to play with friends. Play as your fav retro characters: cnd-online.net. My site: www.lysle.net. Blog: creatingaworld.blogspot.com. |
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1/10/12 12:42:43 PM#22
/brofist |
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TookyG
Warhammer Online Correspondent
Joined: 4/19/04
"...you mean three philippino women." |
1/10/12 1:56:39 PM#23
Everything a console touches turns to crap. The only game genre that's valid for console play is sports. (Since 2000 anyway...) Until you cancel your subscription, you are only helping to continue the cycle of mediocrity. |
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1/10/12 2:08:11 PM#24
And you decided to come to this Diablo 3 thread to post this why? I don't see why D3 shouldn't come to the PS and Xbox. It's not like the graphics are super high-end... |
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1/10/12 2:58:49 PM#25
Hell after the RMT announcement I'd have thought that noone was even buying D3 anymore? Still, this is not a bad thing. After Blizzard was aquired by Activision it was only a matter of time before we'd see them start making games on consoles. And that's fine. It's their goal (and Bobby's) to make money and that's what they are going to do. Blizzard has been making PC games for how long? I know Warcraft: Orcs and Humans came out in 1994 so that's at least ~18 years so far. We're not going to see a bad PC version. If anything, it could perhaps be the console users that have a hard time adjusting (I know I did at first when I tried playing DCUO on my PS3 and trying to use the skill bar with the whole mix of holding a trigger then pressing buttons for one side then another trigger for the other side). |
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Vannor
Elite Member
Joined: 8/11/03
I am the lucid dream. BOW DOWN BEFORE THE GOD OF DEATH! |
1/10/12 3:31:07 PM#26
Great that console gamers will be able to get their hands on D3 but i predict the PC version will be far superior. I remember playing Diablo 1 on the PSX and it was annoying having to trail through the inventory and such using a controller.. same for sacred 2 and dungeon siege 3 on the 360. So, if someone gets this for a console when they could have got it for PC then I'll have a hard time understanding why. |
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1/10/12 3:40:47 PM#27
A console version of diablo 3 sounds interesting for people who do not have the pc set up. I agree with bill that the pc version is the way to go. Anything on the pc is superior to that of consoles that's the way it is, pcs are far more powerful then consoles hence why almost all games are better on the pc.
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1/10/12 4:00:53 PM#28
For any that are wondering, this should run like a champ on just about any PC. Graphics aren't bad, but they aren't super amazing. Just like almost all Blizzard titles, they go for quality art style over using advanced video features to makeup for bad art. :EDIT: And I agree about the comments on Consoles turning games to crap. Diablo 3 will probably fit well, but take something like Age of Conan, that was designed to be an MMO for Console and PC. It was crap. In all honesty, Skyrim isn't great on console either. I hate the "pause" mid combat to change out spells and equipment over and over. They had to do that to make it work on the limited control options console has. PC, you have zillions of keys, keybindings, mouse, and the list goes on! |
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1/10/12 4:00:57 PM#29
I'm pretty sure your last two examples are user error, but as for diablo 1, that was a looooooong time ago. Back when consoles weren't considered as serious as they are now. Skyrim's console controls are probably superior to the PC's, and depending on how they do targeting, D3's movement could be a lot more enjoyable using an analog stick. |
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1/10/12 4:14:13 PM#30
Skyrims controls and interface are "suprior" to PC because they built it for PC. People have released UI mods that FIX the Skyrim interface to be 100x better. I'm not trying to argue that PC's or Consoles are better. Only that the CONTROLS available on PC are better. Keyboard/Mouse offers a lot more control and buttons than a controller. But a controller is far better for driving games and fighting games. It all depends on the type of game. Would you honestly want to play World of Warcraft (or any MMO) with 3+ hot bars full of abilities, on a console with like 10 buttons? Some games need a keyboard and/or mouse. |
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1/10/12 4:35:59 PM#31
I'm already on the side of the fence that is not buying Diablo 3 at launch anymore. If the game is built too strongly with the console version in mind, I'll be able to walk away from that fence completely. If they're building it entirely separate from the PC version (which, being honest here, isn't likely) then I'd still consider buying a while after launch. Of all companies, Blizzard definitely has the resources to do it right, but if WoW is any example, they're going to get by skating on bare minimum. |
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1/10/12 4:46:05 PM#32
it makes sense monetarily, so not surprising they will add consoles to the list. I'm happy for blizzard, they need another shot at consoles after SC was terrible in its console port, and them canceling SC:ghost. |
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1/10/12 4:53:57 PM#33
Originally posted by TookyG coming from someone who cleary has never played a console in his life, dont worry, us real gamers actually know what were talking about. Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling" |
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1/10/12 4:59:30 PM#34
Originally posted by Painlezz This man wins. Everything he posted is why everyone should fear this if you're a PC user. If they do it right, there won't be a problem. If they do it wrong, its just another crappy game that you should avoid. |
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Vannor
Elite Member
Joined: 8/11/03
I am the lucid dream. BOW DOWN BEFORE THE GOD OF DEATH! |
1/10/12 5:15:24 PM#35
Don't get me wrong here, I wasn't saying that the games are impossible to play on the consoles. Just that its more cumbersome and time consuming. I could play and use the console versions on the 360 easily enough, but when I played them on the PC is was quicker to see what I have, compare equipment, target what i wanted to, organise inv etc. Isometric view Action RPGs were designed to be played with a mouse, for targeting flexibilty. On consoles you usually need to have some sort of auto-targeting in use based on what is front of you.. which kinda changes the gameplay slightly and tends to make it more effort to target exactly what you want to. There are suitable work arounds for consoles that work reasonably well but still arn't as good as a good old mouse imo. When there's 15 enemies on screen moving about there is no way you can 'always' target what you mean to on a console without it taking a little more time to do so, whether it be 'tabbing' through targets, having to get them in the 'target area' or using an analog stick like a mouse... it will be more cumbersome than using a mouse. The same applys to picking up items as well, problems occur when there are lots in the same place. As for Skyrim, I agree with you.. I actually played it on the PC using a 360 controller. But that interface was clearly designed for consoles..and it isn't even the same sort of game as D3. I'm sure D3 will work fine on consoles, but I can't see it being on the same level as the PC version in terms of UI and actual control. |
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TookyG
Warhammer Online Correspondent
Joined: 4/19/04
"...you mean three philippino women." |
1/10/12 5:17:37 PM#36
Originally posted by warmaster670 Right, believing that nothing good (enough) has come out for consoles in the past 11-12 years means you've never played console games. And believing that chasing console dollars is ruining PC gaming also means I'm not a real gamer. How many genres have been gutted by dumbing them down for the console crowd again? That's right, pretty much all of them. Until you cancel your subscription, you are only helping to continue the cycle of mediocrity. |
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kadepsyson
Advanced Member
Joined: 5/15/06
The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that. |
1/10/12 5:17:56 PM#37
Originally posted by siphrdamon It sounds like you're saying they need a way to make more money, and that consoles are that way.
I'm not suprised you're happy for blizzard by the way, considering your signature says you've played nearly 2500 hours of world of warcraft heh El Psy Congroo |
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1/10/12 5:29:14 PM#38
The very first Diablo was ported to the Original PlayStation1. Infact i stil have a copy sitting with my ps3. For everyone that does not believe me. http://www.amazon.com/Diablo-Sega-Dreamcast/dp/B000038AAW
So to the person that said that blizz was selling out by branching into the Console market... well ur about 12-13 years to late. |
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1/10/12 6:05:12 PM#39
This is a terrible news. Making a game for also console killing its quality. |
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1/10/12 6:18:42 PM#40
I can't say this surprises me but at the same time I don't see this particular game on console being a detriment. So let's put aside the whole "consoles are for kiddies and pc's are for adults" argument. Though it's true that younger people can more readily afford consoles, I know several adults who use them because: A, it's cheaper than upgrading your computer all the time and they have other/better ways to use their money B, consoles have a lot of games created for them so it's good bang for the buck Now let's look at Diablo. I'ts pretty much a hack and slash game. The graphics are stylized but not so cutting edge that a console could't handle them and that they have to be cut back significantly by the developer. The game play is straight forward enough that I don't foresee pc's having to give up much of anything to accomodate what happens with the console controller. Of course that brings us to interface. The interface to another game that is available on both console and pc is skyrim. it's horrible on pc. I would say what makes it horrible has less to do with how it's set up and more to do with how buggy and sluggish it is. Of course in certain ways the set up isn't good either but for the most part I believe it's just not put together well. Compare that to the interface of "Hunted - The Demon's forge". It's not a great game but the interface is very snappy, very immediate on PC. so it is possible to have one that doesn't feel like you are slogging through a mess. Couple that with "It's Blizzard". Oh, I know that Blizzard can do wrong but I've never seen a Blizzard game that was released in a completely atrocious state. Players might not like what they released or be nitpicky but compared to other games they generally put out a polished product. I don't think we are going to see Diablo become a mess on release for PC players. And of course it makes sense for a company to release games on console because there are a lot of console players. One can more easily recoup the investment. So going forward I believe we will see more and more games released on console. the hope is that good developers will understand that they need to release a good product. The bad would be them releasing a bad pc product, pc gamers not buying it and then devs saying "well, no one buys pc games anymore". But until that happens with every game I don't think we have anything to worry about with Diablo 3. You can start worrying when Diablo 4 is announced. |
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