When you have only captured part of the unit sales...how can you say you know anything ? This is a story that should never have been written unless you are trying to boost readership.

I cancelled my subscription today.

Currently the game is CUSTOMER PAID BETA. I suggest you wait few months and try again - it´s not going to disappear anywhere but the experience is going to much better after they polish what they should have polished in the beta.

L50 Marauder with artifact gear. Seen every flashpoint and cleared Eternity Vault.

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Originally posted by OkhamsRazor

Originally posted by rdrpappy

Originally posted by OkhamsRazor

OK before everyone gets excited about this remember the charts SBFord is talking about is are cross platform charts and include budget games and ones in sales . I brought a few of these single player games in the sales myself ( loving dead island by the way )

This is the PC game chart from the same website for the 31 st December for full priced games

http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110022 

As you can plainly see StarWars ToR is in second place .

Perhaps SBFord should have posted this link as well and researched it a bit better ? It makes a good attention grabbing headline but if wouldn't have seemed half as effective if it have said .

Retails Sales Plummet in the UK StarWars ToR falls to number 2 in the PC game chart .

Those are the facts . The articles just a tad sensationalist ..

 

That's the norm around here, the game  is clearly ontrack to be the biggest online rpg anywhere and people will try and convince you it's going to be f2p in 2 months.

The miss-information machine rivals North Korea, all because we are talking about millions of subs at stake, you have to go look for yourself to see the 123 North American servers are going to need to be increased yet again due to server population.

It is misleading .

 

I am surprised to find MMORPG posting articles as trollish as many of the comments on the forums. I also love the posts about digital copies being for US only which is accurate but misleading as it diverts people away from considering  the online sales. As mentioned, people don't really go to stores for pc games as they're not really stocked anymore. So it's the end of the world as the game is in second place...

i thought the only real issue for the gamer is whether the game is fun for them. if so subscribe and if not don't, or is this too undramatic?

Originally posted by herennow

Originally posted by OkhamsRazor

Originally posted by rdrpappy

Originally posted by OkhamsRazor

OK before everyone gets excited about this remember the charts SBFord is talking about is are cross platform charts and include budget games and ones in sales . I brought a few of these single player games in the sales myself ( loving dead island by the way )

This is the PC game chart from the same website for the 31 st December for full priced games

http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110022 

As you can plainly see StarWars ToR is in second place .

Perhaps SBFord should have posted this link as well and researched it a bit better ? It makes a good attention grabbing headline but if wouldn't have seemed half as effective if it have said .

Retails Sales Plummet in the UK StarWars ToR falls to number 2 in the PC game chart .

Those are the facts . The articles just a tad sensationalist ..

 

That's the norm around here, the game  is clearly ontrack to be the biggest online rpg anywhere and people will try and convince you it's going to be f2p in 2 months.

The miss-information machine rivals North Korea, all because we are talking about millions of subs at stake, you have to go look for yourself to see the 123 North American servers are going to need to be increased yet again due to server population.

It is misleading .

 

I am surprised to find MMORPG posting articles as trollish as many of the comments on the forums. I also love the posts about digital copies being for US only which is accurate but misleading as it diverts people away from considering  the online sales. As mentioned, people don't really go to stores for pc games as they're not really stocked anymore. So it's the end of the world as the game is in second place...

 

i thought the only real issue for the gamer is whether the game is fun for them. if so subscribe and if not don't, or is this too undramatic?

Far too calm for this forum - please ingest 2 gallons of dayglo fizzy drink to get your emo level up.

Originally posted by herennow

I am surprised to find MMORPG posting articles as trollish as many of the comments on the forums.

Really?!  MMORPG.com practically exists for the sole purpose of slating games and providing a hovel for all the internet trolls to meet.  Seriously, if people are looking to absolutely TEAR a game to bits then there is no better place.

On another note... Wait PC shops still exist?  What is a 'boxed' game? Haven't bought one of those in years.

I'd buy digitally everytime if the price was either the same or less, I dont feel like paying almost double for a digital download (I.E Battlefield 3 is £25 instore £40 Digital which is a complete piss take)

Also it's obvious after the initial burst of sales the game isnt going to continually be a top seller its very debateable how good/bad the game is right now. Additionally the subscription fee is a massive turn off for anyone considering mmo's for the first time.

i have played swtor since 20 december and it's the first game that i like after eve-online. I like to be able to do a lot of things solo. (yep i'm a online solo player)  if i need help i ask a friend. I have no clue why people want ti rush to lvl 50. probably because they did so in wow. i like the story and look & feel.

I'm a clicker (laugh at me) use the keyboard all wrong, hitting the wrong keys at the wrong (or sometimes right time) don't understand cycles and mess them up because i get exited. I admit i'm hopless. Still i have played many hours (60-70 or so) and yes, i'm still struggling at level 40.

i also played skyrim, but i have no clue to what to do in that game (i lost the big picture) i had the same problem with oblivion. so i got bored and left. some annoying graphical weird things also annoyed me.

i hope they add more content (i see they have enough thoughts about additional content if i look at the cartoon-tv-show "Star Wars: The Clone Wars" so i guess lvl 50 isn't important to me. Great storylines and adventure with great graphics (not those awfull looking ugly things in wow) does it for me.

I still hope that the game will have a steady player base and good progress in time without getting the same gameplay as in wow. Like the discussion about "we need mods"... if i want a automated game i would watch a movie. easy gameplay, no keyboard needed and you always win.

Since i like the game it will probably crash and burn... i hope that the drastically drop in box sales isn't going to be the start of it. I will not move to wow, since it also has monthly payments and i don't like the graphics.

i just realised: OMG i actually wrote a post!   

Not surprised as there is not a single MMo out there that has maintained their launch sales for several weeks or let alone any game that maintains its launch day sales. That is the reason for the online passes and DLC coming out in droves these days as developers are trying to money grab in anyway possible. I am actually surprised this is even news as it seems like it would be common sense by now on video game sales.

No tv commercials is probably also a factor, the only commercials i´ve see where when they released the pre-orders. BF3 have had lots of tv time.

lol at people comparing a MMO with a monthly subscription fee to Skyrim or BF3

Originally posted by itgrowls

Originally posted by pharazonic

It's downhill from here ;)

 

that's exactly what i was thinking HA. so much for the WoW killer. People are already at level 50 and crying for more end game content of which the devs haven't even started yet. Not gonna have a good first six months without longevity.

 

Not to mention the lack of brackets, which resulted in lvl 50s in full PVP gear roflstomping anyone sub 35.

Also the graphics are worse than RIFT and even AoC; literally WoW 2.0 graphics here people.

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A decent gaming rig costs no more than $600 USD if you know when to shop and how to combo. You can't afford that? Fine, but don't complain how you can't play any of the new games.

You know how many people were bitching about BF3 requiring "monster rigs" just to play. God, those people were retarded to think their machines (no upgrades) from XP-days (aka 10yrs ago) would run the game flawlessly.

WTB: High res texture packs for SWTOR; surely Bioware didn't do all their 'stock art' in 512x512 resolution.

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My local computer stores don't sell PC games anymore. Its all console games. The shops I am talking about are Game. Gamestation and HMV. PC world has one shelf of old pc games that are about 3 to 10 years old.

I have to buy all my PC games via digital or pre-order from Game UK, Amazon or Play.com.

Also the game needs a high resolution patch added to it. As it stands it already looks very dated.

Its becouse the game isent that great, its just an ok mmo.

Originally posted by Aguitha

Box sale means nothing in a MMO. It's all about retention.  Doesnt matter if you sell 10 millions boxes if in 6 months there is 25k players left.

 

/this

As a person that can only play 3-4 hours a month I'm waiting for it to go f2p

Well,

I don't know about numbers all that much.

I beta tested this game as really wanted to buy it, but I'm just broke right now.  So, I can't afford it at the moment.  I might buy it when my finances return to normal, if something else that I'm not interested in more comes out by then...(Planet Side 2, Fire Fall).

Althought, I don't buy box copies anymore anyway.  (I live in the US, maybe it's just different here) It is a lot easier for me to buy online.  It's a lot easier to buy anything online these days.

Used to I went to Gamestop a lot, but they don't carry hardly any PC games anymore. Plus, a lot of the PC Stores like Circut City, and Comp USA that we had here went out of business.

The only real computer store to go to anymore is BestBuy.

Most of the PC world is "Online" these days ...at least I would think.  I know I am.  I order everything I buy online, except food and gas...lol

didnt bioware say they were limiting box sales aswell to make it easier amongst other things to log in the game?

Originally posted by BigCountry

Originally posted by Aguitha

Box sale means nothing in a MMO. It's all about retention.  Doesnt matter if you sell 10 millions boxes if in 6 months there is 25k players left.

 

 

/this

Sorry, but If I were an EA investor and had to choose between 2 million units and 500k subs vs 10 million units sold and 25K subs. It wouldn't even be a nano second of thougt. Containing costs or shutting down a product means little to an investor if he/she has already made a profit on the initial venture.

Originally posted by Vorthanion

Originally posted by itgrowls

Originally posted by pharazonic

It's downhill from here ;)

 

that's exactly what i was thinking HA. so much for the WoW killer. People are already at level 50 and crying for more end game content of which the devs haven't even started yet. Not gonna have a good first six months without longevity.

 

The game wasn't targeted at power gamers.  Their cries will fall on deaf ears and the rest of us will be more than happy to see them leave and darken someone else's digital door.  Gotta love power gamers whining about lack of content for their play style in a casual game.  If they're stupid enough to buy that kind of game, then they deserve all the unpleasantness they get.

P.S.  In the scheme of things, I don't think it really matters if this game dethrones WoW.  It's already a success and if it maintains that success, then the rest of it doesn't really matter at all.

 

 

i cant even begin to explain how much i agree with you ...