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  oobla

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OP  1/09/12 1:50:59 PM#161
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1/09/12 1:59:54 PM#162
Originally posted by Angier2758
Originally posted by Rusty715

So from the last couple pages or so it seems the genre is where its going to remain? Devs will continure to shovel the same shit they have been shoveling for ten years and we either get on board or will be labled, haters and idiots?  I just saw last week that movie box office reciepts were lower than they have been in 16 years. Why? Maybe because hollywood has been shoveling the same shit for the 16 years and people are tired of it?   As long as people will buy shit and cheer for more, shit is exactly what they are going to get.  Yeah I know its fully voiced shit so it doesnt smell as bad.

Well part of the problem in the mmorpg genre is that we want a game like we had when we started, but we want it to be innovative too.

If it's too different we hate it and if it doesn't add all the stuff we're used to.. we hate it.  When you have those kinds of requirements you're going to get a lot of games that have lofty goals, but end up going no where. in terms of innovation.

Also.. the reason you get called haters is because people have obvious agendas (like the GW2 people who actively bash SWTOR).  In the end you're not smarter because you don't like something.  I'm sure you're thinking you're doing good, but at some point you became a hater.

Go to the link in my sig.

Blue:  That's asinine.  You are making it out that everyone who doesn't agree with you is called a hater because they have an agenda.  Many people who dislike SWTOR don't even have another MMORPG that they are playing nor looking at. 

Again, your statement asinine and is nothing more than false labeling.

  onehunerdper

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eh.

1/09/12 2:07:50 PM#163

Rift....Honestly, nuff said...


  moosecatlol

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1/09/12 2:15:39 PM#164
Originally posted by Vato26
Originally posted by Angier2758
Originally posted by Rusty715

So from the last couple pages or so it seems the genre is where its going to remain? Devs will continure to shovel the same shit they have been shoveling for ten years and we either get on board or will be labled, haters and idiots?  I just saw last week that movie box office reciepts were lower than they have been in 16 years. Why? Maybe because hollywood has been shoveling the same shit for the 16 years and people are tired of it?   As long as people will buy shit and cheer for more, shit is exactly what they are going to get.  Yeah I know its fully voiced shit so it doesnt smell as bad.

Well part of the problem in the mmorpg genre is that we want a game like we had when we started, but we want it to be innovative too.

If it's too different we hate it and if it doesn't add all the stuff we're used to.. we hate it.  When you have those kinds of requirements you're going to get a lot of games that have lofty goals, but end up going no where. in terms of innovation.

Also.. the reason you get called haters is because people have obvious agendas (like the GW2 people who actively bash SWTOR).  In the end you're not smarter because you don't like something.  I'm sure you're thinking you're doing good, but at some point you became a hater.

Go to the link in my sig.

[Mod Edit]

I actually do hate EA, because I love the Internet. Yes this makes Angier correct to some degree {mod edit}

  mackdawg19

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1/09/12 2:37:17 PM#165

The game is that, just a game. As to the issue with Gamepro there is none. Look anyone can give a review. You dont need to spend hundreds of hours playing a game or be established in the game. I can log into any game right now and get a feel of the game within 15-20 minutes. People sitting here saying 15 hrs isnt long enough are crazy. Do you see food critics in restraunts ordering the whole menu? Do you see car magaziines test driving every chevy cobalt made? 15 hours is plenty of playtime in the game to give a review. Plus the starter area is suppose to be the hook of the game. If the game doesnt hook you by then, whats the point of playing the rest. Put it this way, if I can test drive a car in 15 mins and know if I like it or not, If I can eat a bite of a steak and know if its good, then I can test a game in 15 hrs time or even 1 hour and know its a game for me. 

  Jookbox

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Joined: 11/22/05
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1/09/12 3:53:54 PM#166
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  User Deleted
1/09/12 4:12:28 PM#167
Originally posted by moosecatlol
Originally posted by Vato26
Originally posted by Angier2758
Originally posted by Rusty715

So from the last couple pages or so it seems the genre is where its going to remain? Devs will continure to shovel the same shit they have been shoveling for ten years and we either get on board or will be labled, haters and idiots?  I just saw last week that movie box office reciepts were lower than they have been in 16 years. Why? Maybe because hollywood has been shoveling the same shit for the 16 years and people are tired of it?   As long as people will buy shit and cheer for more, shit is exactly what they are going to get.  Yeah I know its fully voiced shit so it doesnt smell as bad.

Well part of the problem in the mmorpg genre is that we want a game like we had when we started, but we want it to be innovative too.

If it's too different we hate it and if it doesn't add all the stuff we're used to.. we hate it.  When you have those kinds of requirements you're going to get a lot of games that have lofty goals, but end up going no where. in terms of innovation.

Also.. the reason you get called haters is because people have obvious agendas (like the GW2 people who actively bash SWTOR).  In the end you're not smarter because you don't like something.  I'm sure you're thinking you're doing good, but at some point you became a hater.

Go to the link in my sig.

[Mod Edit]

I actually do hate EA, because I love the Internet. Yes this makes Angier correct to some degree {mod edit}

Actually, no it doesn't.  He's just grouping everyone that he doesn't agree with into a false lable because its easier that way.  It's both lacking in factual basis and intellectually dishonest.

  RizelStar

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Joined: 8/12/11
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1/09/12 4:16:31 PM#168
Originally posted by Vato26
Originally posted by moosecatlol
Originally posted by Vato26
Originally posted by Angier2758
Originally posted by Rusty715

So from the last couple pages or so it seems the genre is where its going to remain? Devs will continure to shovel the same shit they have been shoveling for ten years and we either get on board or will be labled, haters and idiots?  I just saw last week that movie box office reciepts were lower than they have been in 16 years. Why? Maybe because hollywood has been shoveling the same shit for the 16 years and people are tired of it?   As long as people will buy shit and cheer for more, shit is exactly what they are going to get.  Yeah I know its fully voiced shit so it doesnt smell as bad.

Well part of the problem in the mmorpg genre is that we want a game like we had when we started, but we want it to be innovative too.

If it's too different we hate it and if it doesn't add all the stuff we're used to.. we hate it.  When you have those kinds of requirements you're going to get a lot of games that have lofty goals, but end up going no where. in terms of innovation.

Also.. the reason you get called haters is because people have obvious agendas (like the GW2 people who actively bash SWTOR).  In the end you're not smarter because you don't like something.  I'm sure you're thinking you're doing good, but at some point you became a hater.

Go to the link in my sig.

[Mod Edit]

I actually do hate EA, because I love the Internet. Yes this makes Angier correct to some degree {mod edit}

Actually, no it doesn't.  He's just grouping everyone that he doesn't agree with into a false lable because its easier that way.  It's both lacking in factual basis and intellectually dishonest.

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  Rocketeer

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1/09/12 5:10:24 PM#169

I like how there apparently are GW2 people, haters, SWTOR fanboys, WoW basher etc. It must be very convinient if your fellow humans fit that neatly into those labeled boxes people prepared.

You know couple years ago it was possible to like/dislike something without requirering a membership in some conspiracy ring. But that probably was before the internet, nvm.

 

One thing in want to bring up though. people keep saying the graphics are fine as they are. Nice! Considering the high resolution textures are not even working and we are only seeing the medium ones. How nice will it be to get "higher quality resolutions for the whole game" as a feature of the first expansion ... Or maybe, since they are removing the med setting, there will be a new very high setting in the future ....

  Loviotor

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Joined: 6/18/09
Posts: 13

1/10/12 3:18:00 AM#170

Actually, they are working out the kinks and bugs in the graphics settings, and patching them as they get them ready for live... On the test server they already have AA enabled as an option and a few other things they're working on for the settings in game.  You can also edit the file in the folder (do a google search on "increasing graphical quality of SWTOR" and you'll find a few links to how to do this, I'm not going to rehash this argument here.)

 

The only complaint I have had with SWTOR so far is the fact that the UI is static in place, I like to move my ui elements around where they are comfortable for me.  For me, gameplay is smooth, the quests make sense and have decent rewards for the difficulty and bugs will be worked out in time for areas that I've run into issues.

 

In general, I have seen many people bash the game, instead of offering any kind of constructive criticism about what they would change about the game.  Game developers and distributors do it for the money, and if their customers aren't happy, they will make attempts to satisfy the customers that are most vocal with constructive feedback about issues with the games.  The squeaky wheel gets the grease.  Enough people complain or offer constructive feedback about things they think would improve the game for themselves (and many times others), and the company will, more than likely, look into possibilities revolving around the feedback that they receive.

 

I'm not a fanboi, though I do like the game, but I also like many other games.  Instead of bashing games that they don't like, people really should concentrate on playing and promoting those that they do like.  Negative press is still press and gets attention on the game.  Those who bash games remind me of politicians, especially in an election year, where they simply bash each other for 9 months prior to election day.

  Xasapis

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Posts: 5608

1/10/12 3:25:09 AM#171

Lets hope they add a high quality texture pack on the avatars to replace all the low quality textures on virtually every single piece of armor.

  spizz

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Posts: 2585

1/10/12 3:27:24 AM#172
Originally posted by Omb1

There not called reviews anymore, but marketing scams. ty come again.

THIS

 

All these gamer magazines would be stupid to write really bad reviews since they are living from this branche...especially when big companies are releasing big titles. Manipulation exists in every branch and I give a damn about reviews since so many games got overhyped.

 

  Kidon

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1/10/12 3:41:28 AM#173

If it seems like an orange, feels like an orange and tastes like an orange maybe it is a an orange.... so SWTOR is awsome with room for improvement, it is all in the hands of BW and the content in the test server is a first good step.

  oobla

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Joined: 10/25/11
Posts: 87

 
OP  1/10/12 11:08:56 AM#174
Originally posted by spizz
Originally posted by Omb1

There not called reviews anymore, but marketing scams. ty come again.

THIS

 

All these gamer magazines would be stupid to write really bad reviews since they are living from this branche...especially when big companies are releasing big titles. Manipulation exists in every branch and I give a damn about reviews since so many games got overhyped.

 

Its a conspiracy lol I do love a good conspiracy .

Good theory but how do you explain decent reviews from major newspapers none of which thrive or survive on advertising revenue from games developers .

And how do you explain gamer magazine bad reviews for large developers on single player games .

Like all conspiracys they fall apart under closer scurtiny.

Heres a shocker maybe there are no bad or mediocre reviews because its actually a decent game .

A couple of thousand people have looked at this thread I would think its fair to say theres got to be a few of them have to hate ToR and would love to find a bad review and link it .Thus far all we have is a youtube clip which isn't a review and one by someone who openly admits they are a disgruntled Galaxies fan .

Keep searching . I'm suprised myself that no ones managed to come up with anything more substantual than this or even a mediocre review .

 

 

  StSynner

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1/10/12 11:49:34 AM#175
Originally posted by drbaltazar

y agreed 15 hour they saw what starting area?lolit is like judging wow on their starting area?lololo!i laughed so hard !there is alost nothing to see in starting area it is a tutorial almost in all game!

sooooo... how many hours do you think were played by the people that gave TOR a good review? lmfao... probably about 15 hours or so. because 15 hours is PLENTY of time to review a game. 15 hours play time is more than 2 hours a night for a full week. if you play a game for that long i would say that you have a pretty good idea of whether or not you like it. i know i do. the "oh you have to give the game TIME to get good!" or "the game STARTS at 50 which takes 200+ hours to reach!" is COMPLETE bullshit. a 15 hour playtime review is sufficient.

PS: if it take MORE than 15 hours to get interesting... your game sucks. FYI.

  Pelaaja

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1/10/12 7:51:45 PM#176

Was this here already?

Or does this apply as a review? It wasn't actually a bad one, but quite balanced read.

  MMOGamer71

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1/10/12 8:01:44 PM#177
Originally posted by StSynner
Originally posted by drbaltazar

y agreed 15 hour they saw what starting area?lolit is like judging wow on their starting area?lololo!i laughed so hard !there is alost nothing to see in starting area it is a tutorial almost in all game!

sooooo... how many hours do you think were played by the people that gave TOR a good review? lmfao... probably about 15 hours or so. because 15 hours is PLENTY of time to review a game. 15 hours play time is more than 2 hours a night for a full week. if you play a game for that long i would say that you have a pretty good idea of whether or not you like it. i know i do. the "oh you have to give the game TIME to get good!" or "the game STARTS at 50 which takes 200+ hours to reach!" is COMPLETE bullshit. a 15 hour playtime review is sufficient.

PS: if it take MORE than 15 hours to get interesting... your game sucks. FYI.

Yes because getting to the 2nd zone with 8-10% of your abilities and/or skill tree unlocked is an accurate reflection of how any class in any game played operates.

  StSynner

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1/11/12 10:05:07 AM#178
Originally posted by Forumtalker
Originally posted by StSynner
Originally posted by drbaltazar

y agreed 15 hour they saw what starting area?lolit is like judging wow on their starting area?lololo!i laughed so hard !there is alost nothing to see in starting area it is a tutorial almost in all game!

sooooo... how many hours do you think were played by the people that gave TOR a good review? lmfao... probably about 15 hours or so. because 15 hours is PLENTY of time to review a game. 15 hours play time is more than 2 hours a night for a full week. if you play a game for that long i would say that you have a pretty good idea of whether or not you like it. i know i do. the "oh you have to give the game TIME to get good!" or "the game STARTS at 50 which takes 200+ hours to reach!" is COMPLETE bullshit. a 15 hour playtime review is sufficient.

PS: if it take MORE than 15 hours to get interesting... your game sucks. FYI.

Yes because getting to the 2nd zone with 8-10% of your abilities and/or skill tree unlocked is an accurate reflection of how any class in any game played operates.

A) it's called a "review" ... not a guide.

B)you didnt answer the question. how many hours do you think the positive reviewers played? 15? 25? 50? 100? 200?  because by your logic... you CANT give an honest review unless you have played the entire game... sorry, this is just not true. i know crap when i see it. 

"I have studied this material for HUNDREDS of hours... rolled it around in my hands... smelled of it... tasted it... and i have determined beyond a shadow of a doubt that... YES!, this is IN FACT fecal matter!"

the same can be said about a mediocre game. i dont have to play for weeks or months to decide that it IS a mediocre game and that i WILL drop it at the first sign of life from ANYTHING else.

but then... maybe i am simply more in touch with what i DO and what i DONT enjoy. :/ ...must be my breeding...

  Eir_S

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GW2 socialist.

1/11/12 10:49:01 AM#179

I wouldn't say the game is mediocre, maybe slightly above average, but the previous poster has a good point.  The odds that all these reviewers who have given the game a glowing recommendation having played sooo much longer than those who think it's a bad game, are really low.  Fans will do anything to support their product, though.  Don't treat it as big news.  I plan to have a screaming meltdown over bad GW2 reviews and sacrfice some chickens.

  StSynner

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1/11/12 10:53:49 AM#180
Originally posted by Eir_S

I plan to have a screaming meltdown over bad GW2 reviews and sacrfice some chickens.

sounds fun. i'll bring the beer.

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